The latest sedition of, Fox News actively makes you stupid

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  1. JamieBmore

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    Apr 26, 2001
    Violent people on the left? Nahhhhhhh. Man, that's some pretty morbid angry stuff.
     
  2. Cascarino's Pizzeria

    Apr 29, 2001
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    Essex County CC admin is wrong here. But I don't know why any liberal would go on a Fox show just to be red meat for their drooling, kick-a-lib'rul viewership.

    On June 8, Lisa Durden, a producer, filmmaker and media commentator, arrived at Essex County College in Newark to teach her speech class.

    It was the closing days of the summer session and Durden was already set for the fall semester. She was listed as a returning adjunct professor to teach mass communication and popular culture and two effective speech courses.

    Two days before, she had appeared as a political commentator on the Fox News show "Tucker Carlson Tonight," invited to give her opinion as to why Black Lives Matter organizers held a Memorial Day event in Brooklyn for black people only.

    When she arrived on campus June 8, Durden was abruptly suspended. She was told she had to cancel classes and report to the Human Resources Department.

    http://www.nj.com/essex/index.ssf/2...d_after_fox.html#incart_river_mobile_home_pop
     
  3. JohnR

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    When Circe turned Odysseus's men into swine, and they were squealing on the floor, Odysseus couldn't get them to pay attention no matter what he did.
     
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  4. Naughtius Maximus

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    Y'see, I was just gonna say, 'Because they're arseholes'.... but that works too :)

    :giggle:
     
  5. JohnR

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    Whenever I see somebody who is hopelessly brain dead but doesn't realize it, for example Sean Hannity, I think of those pigs. I can't get them out of mind, I just see them milling around on the floor, with their tusks, without a ********ing clue and they won't shut up.
     
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  6. JamieBmore

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    Apr 26, 2001
    This is what you are trying to defend? Even Auriaprottu wouldn't defend this idiot, and that's saying something:

     
  7. Cascarino's Pizzeria

    Apr 29, 2001
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    What CCJ and most Sucker Carlson viewers see every time these lib'rul smackdowns air:

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  8. Dr. Wankler

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    They are totally wrong, if it's true that she never associated herself with the college. For instance, I would likely be canned if I went on TV and my affiliation with the JuCo that employs me to teach football players was listed. It's in the contract that I won't speak on behalf of the college unless the college has set up the opportunity to speak. I don't think that's uncommon.

    But if the name of the college never appeared when she was on the air, or at any other time, she's going to be reinstated and/or victorious in the wrongful dismissal suit.
     
  9. xtomx

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    Yes, that "idiot" Tucker Carlson is hard to defend.

    His blank stare is amazing.

    "What you are saying is so hostile and separatist and crazy and a basic attack on what we all agreed upon, that is you do not attack someone for their race."

    "You are demented; you are sick. If you are a Nazi, I would say the same thing."

    By the way, Lisa Durden was a bit off the rails, as well.

    But, overall, you are correct, Tucker Carlson is a bit of an idiot. Glad you agree.

    So, let's see, what racists things have Tucker Carlson said:

    “Anyone who alleges the white privilege is, by definition, a racist,” Carlson said. “I think we can say that and we should say that. That’s not a legitimate form of conversation. That’s tarring an entire group based on the way they look. That’s the definition of racism and I think people should stand up and say that because it’s true.”

    “(President Obama) has been the most racially, explicitly and intentionally, racially divisive president that we’ve ever had by a factor of I don’t know how much.”
    -2016

    No need to continue.
     
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  10. soccernutter

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    Why do you have an issue? Are you against Black self-determination? (Never mind that BLM is not a party.)
     
  11. Auriaprottu

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    I defended you, back when you first got here and people wanted you to be polite and all Emily-Post-y about your preferences. You're more o- uh, she's smarter than you are...
     
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  12. Auriaprottu

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    He wanted to join, and they won't let him. Even T-Rex Chapman Ball Shawn couldn't sway their minds
     
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  13. JohnR

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    There's some merit to that. The problem is, the only people who make such arguments then go on to way things like this -

    At which point all conversation must end.
     
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  14. American Brummie

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    Just a quibble, but can we agree to say that BLM is the Bureau of Land Management and just spell out "Black Lives Matter?" My head gets all fuzzy when they're both turned into acronyms. Or the other way around - state Bureau of Land Management. If I'm alone, ignore me. But there have got to be other people who go "okay, is this Ted Bundy or Philando Castile I'm supposed to be reading about?"
     
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  15. xtomx

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    No. There is no merit to the statement: Anyone who alleges the white privilege is, by definition, a racist.”

    White privilege in the US is a real thing. I would argue that anyone who denies it is, by definition, a racist.
    Racism in US is a real thing.

    Tucker Carlson is, more than anything, a proponent of the ridiculous and racist notion that so-called reverse racism is racist and on an equal footing with actual racism.

    There are admittedly racists of all stripes, colors and creeds, but there are fundamental differences between them.


    Yes, and he shows his stripes with that comment, which was in the exact same interview, within seconds of the first quote.
     
  16. JohnR

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    Chicago, IL
    You are correct. I resist some usages of the term "white privilege" (as well as its name, it is more accurate black anti-privilege than white privilege), but yes such a thing exists, and yes stating its existence doesn't make a person racist.

    My bad, carry on.
     
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  17. xtomx

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    This is why "The Latest Edition of Fox News Actively Makes You Stupid"


    "Two-thirds of viewers who say Fox News is the news source they trust most believe discrimination against whites is as big a problem as discrimination against minority groups, according to a study released Tuesday by the Brookings Institution and the Public Religion Research Institute."
    http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2011/09/fox-news-paranoid-alternate/
    https://newsone.com/1518545/fox-news-viewers-discrimination/

    This was a poll almost 6 years ago!

    It isn't the "Latest Edition" making people stupid, it has been a plan that has been in the works for decades.

    Fox and the reactionary right (I hesitate to even call them "conservatives" as they are not conservatives) have been playing a long game.

    The Koch family have been at this crap for 50 years. First with the John Birch Society and now with the Koch brothers, and making so many Republicans addicted to Koch-caine.

    Roger Ailes fomented the idea for Fox forty-five years ago.

    Fox News itself has been at this for over 20 years.

    They have been actively making their viewers less informed, less questioning (except for bitching about "Fake news") and more accepting of the lies and crap that Fox spews, which is usually in direct contrast to the very interests of the viewers, for over two decades.

    The election of Trump was the culmination of their actions.

    The fact that rational people could argue that there is "merit" in Tucker Carlson's declaration that Anyone who alleges the white privilege is, by definition, a racist" demonstrates how effective their messaging has become.

    I agree that the term "white privilege" is overused and, sometimes, misused, but it certainly does exist and all of us who are white in the US benefit (and, sometimes, suffer) from it.

    The problem is that conversation has moved so far to the right
    -"Pro life" for "anti-abortion" or "anti-choice" there is nothing "Pro life" about most of them,
    -"Right to work" for "We want to destroy unions by making them provide protections for non-union members in the same workplace," or "right to work for less money and less protection"
    -"Death panels" for "paying doctors with Medicare money to discuss end of life options,"
    -"Death tax" for an "Estate Tax for people dying with wealth in excess of $5.49 million"
    -"School choice" for "giving religious schools and private education public money for....well, no real reason" and
    -"School choice" for "defunding public education so that people who can afford private education receive incredibly substandard education"
    -"Make American Great Again" for oh, crap, where do we begin to dissect that slogan?,
    Etc.
    that we need to actively fight against the sloganism, jingoism and, well, lies of the reactionary right.

    This is incredibly difficult when the Fox News outlet is so unbelievably consistent about the slogans, jingoism and lies.
     
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  18. xtomx

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    Agreed.
    The term is sometimes misused, but it does exist.
     
  19. taosjohn

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    I disagree that the term is overused; maybe misused vary occasionally, but the phenomenon is so pervasive that those of us born with birth-bleach often don't see it when we're looking for it and at it,

    It mostly isn't "privilege" as in "immunity from the draft," but rather "less likely to be ordered to walk point," not as in "will be granted a mortgage or loan I'm not qualified for" but as in "less likely to trigger late fees and rate hikes if I'm a half day late on a payment." The other happens too, but evening it up won't eliminate the inequity, just peel one layer off the onion.

    It's really just this pervasive, mild, downhill tilt in a world where the tilt is uphill for the darker set. If I get stopped because someone stole the registration update tag off my license plate (actually happened once) I have to send away to the DMV for a new one at mild expense. If it happens to one of our few black residents, they probably have to both do the stupid human tricks and go to court. That sort of thing, multiplied a thousandfold, and you have a meaningful head start; and yet any one instance is so trivial that it really can't be avoided or turned down...
     
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  20. JohnR

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    1) Those are rights, not privileges. Most of this is not white privilege, it is instead the refusal to grant African-Americans (and often brown people) their rights.

    2) The adjective "white" is insufficient because Southeast Asians by and large enjoy the same rights.

    3) Sometimes the arguments extend to "all you white people think like X because you all enjoy the same white privilege."

    Again, it's not that I disagree with the facts -- I agree with all that you write above.
     
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  21. Knave

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    The Fox News story is rather hilarious. It states: "The Democratic base is growing increasingly frustrated with former President Barack Obama’s actions after leaving office, including a seemingly endless tour of millionaire and billionaire luxury retreats, according to Democrats and activists contacted by Fox News."

    So who did they contact?

    Pat Caddell: Fox News's favorite useful idiot, hasn't been a party player since the 1970s, pseudo-Democrat turned crypto-conservative.

    And Dr. David Michael Smith, who is apparently part of the Houston Socialist Movement. Whoever he is and what the hell that is.

    Then they cite a John Oliver.

    Here's non-Fox News link to the story: https://archive.is/JL8nS
     
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  22. JohnR

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    Whereas Trump does that as the sitting President.
     
  23. Cascarino's Pizzeria

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  24. superdave

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