The Kellyn Acosta Thread

Discussion in 'USA Men: News & Analysis' started by Alex Yang, Mar 16, 2017.

  1. Clint Eastwood

    Clint Eastwood Member+

    Dec 23, 2003
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Sell-on clauses are part of the game all around the world. Its a common practice. We just talked about FCD's sell-on clause they retained in the Chris Richards sale to Bayern Munich (reportedly 40%).

    Colorado didn't have to agree to include that in their trade with FCD if they didn't want it included.
     
  2. Excellency

    Excellency Member+

    LA Galaxy
    United States
    Nov 4, 2011
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Are you sure about that?

    otoh, I presume the fee is renegotiable like anything else in the contract, as long as there is mutual agreement.

    If Colorado can't sell because of the sell on fee, FCD get nothing.
     
  3. Pegasus

    Pegasus Member+

    Apr 20, 1999
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    If Colorado doesn't sell because of the fee then neither get anything.
     
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  4. Excellency

    Excellency Member+

    LA Galaxy
    United States
    Nov 4, 2011
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Benfica have some ridiculous buy out clause in the contract they have with Keaton Parks. That doesn't mean they wouldn't bring it down if a buyer has an interest but will not meet the buy out figure.

    The same logic applies to the sell on clause with FCD for a prospective Acosta sale.
     
  5. Excellency

    Excellency Member+

    LA Galaxy
    United States
    Nov 4, 2011
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Actually, yes Colorado do get something. They get Acosta if they don't sell. FCD get nothing.,
     
  6. Patrick167

    Patrick167 Member+

    Dortmund
    United States
    May 4, 2017
    Free agency is common all over the world but the MLSPA has bargained it away every time. They could bargain to prevent sell on clauses. They could bargain to prevent club only options. They don't seem to care about any of these things. The only thing they are ever in the media about is TC & S.
     
  7. LouisianaViking07/09

    Aug 15, 2009
    so is he being sold or what?
     
  8. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  9. tomásbernal

    tomásbernal Member+

    Sep 4, 2007
    Club:
    Portland Timbers
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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  10. Ghost

    Ghost Member+

    Sep 5, 2001
    Left back remains an open position on the usmnt. If Acosta could be an adequate defender, LB could be a good place to hide a dead ball specialist.

    Just saying ... some former coach might have been right about that.
     
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  11. TheHoustonHoyaFan

    Oct 14, 2011
    Houston
    Club:
    FC Schalke 04
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Kinnear did make Acosta the starting LB of the 2016 MLS all star match v Arsenal! :whistling:

     
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  12. comoesa

    comoesa Member+

    Aug 13, 2010
    Christen Press's armpit
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yikes, getting traded to Colorado and then being held hostage.
     
  13. Pegasus

    Pegasus Member+

    Apr 20, 1999
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Poor dude has now been held hostage by two teams. FCD at least was only trying to hold him hostage until the next window but injuries screwed that up. He does have some blames as he forced his was out of FCD and most teams don't acquire you just to let you go to Europe six months later.
     
  14. schrutebuck

    schrutebuck Member+

    Jul 26, 2007
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    I think opinion has swung around on Acosta in the last 2 months.

    FYI - if Arena started him for Arriola or Nagbe instead of bringing him in off the bench on October 10, 2017, then the US would have earned tickets to Russia. This was Arena's true team error on that day - it was understandable that he wanted to stick with the same XI from three days earlier, but the team needed a little more crunch in midfield because it was a road match in poor field conditions.
     
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  15. Maximum Optimal

    Maximum Optimal Member+

    Jul 10, 2001
  16. OWN(yewu)ED

    OWN(yewu)ED Member+

    Club: Venezia F.C.
    May 26, 2006
    chico, CA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Jermaine Jones level bulldog this tournament. I will always wish his passing gets better, but thats never gonna happen. He had some crucial, crucial breakups today though.

    Just........no more right back for that man please and thank you.
     
  17. olephill2

    olephill2 Member+

    Oct 6, 2006
    Club:
    Watford FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Kellyn Acosta's stock is soaring based on his performance in this tournament. He has clearly solidified spot on the WCQ squad as Tyler Adams' backup at #6. He covers a ton of ground, he's tireless, he breaks up plays, he's capable of the killer pass, and his set piece delivery is good. And he's Mr. Versatility, capable of filling in at fullback. He's prone to boneheaded plays from time to time, and as Matt Doyle has a pointed out, his usage rate is lower than you want to see from a central midfielder, but he's a clear upgrade over Jackson Yueill, Michael Bradley, Johnny Cardoso, Andres Perea, Alfredo Morales, or anyone else we might throw out for the #6 role. James Sands may have something to say about that, but based on Walker Zimmerman's injury, we don't have an answer there since Sands had to fill in at CB.
     
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  18. nobody

    nobody Member+

    Jun 20, 2000
    Acosta's performance shows the dramatic difference between someone like Yueill at the 6 who can play a few pretty passes but isn't a strong, physical defensive presence vs sacrificing a touch of passing ability for someone who can dominate that area of the field defensively. I think now it is obvious which is better. (And I'm not even sure Acosta doesn't pass just as well anyway to be honest.) Anytime Adams is unavailable, Acosta has that spot on lock down from what I can see. And against a really strong opponent I can't say it wouldn't be worth trying a midfield with both of them playing together. You want to make life miserable for an opponent, let them try to navigate a midfield with both Adams and Acosta roaming around.
     
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  19. RossD

    RossD Member+

    Aug 17, 2013
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    He balled out and left everything on the field. Was a real leader on a very young team and was more then willing to scrap which we need from our CM's. His passing may not be the best but he will frustrate the hell out of the other team for 90 minutes.
     
  20. An Unpaved Road

    An Unpaved Road Member+

    Mar 22, 2006
    Club:
    --other--
    Nations League vs. Gold Cup squad, winner gets Acosta.
     
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  21. Eleven Bravo

    Eleven Bravo Member+

    Atlanta United
    United States
    Jul 3, 2004
    SC
    Club:
    Atlanta Silverbacks
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Acosta was the man last night.
     
  22. Eleven Bravo

    Eleven Bravo Member+

    Atlanta United
    United States
    Jul 3, 2004
    SC
    Club:
    Atlanta Silverbacks
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    This is a really good comparison. A guy who would just bust his ass and make his presence known.
     
  23. adam tash

    adam tash Member+

    Jul 12, 2013
    Barcelona, Spain
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I thought his passing was really really good as the match wore on. He knew where he wanted to pas the ball before he got it and was quick and accurarte with his delivery ...not even looking and getting the ball on target.

    this and the tackling what was stood out for me.

    this is what players need to be able to do against mexico and better, there is no time to take touches and think it must be as quick and accurate as possible bc vs a team like that windows close very quick...one back pass can ruin an attack or cause loss of possession. even just a poorly wieghted pass can result in loss of the ball.

    i agree passing is so important but it was this aspect of the game vs mexico that I thought he did really well in.
     
  24. felloveranddidanadu

    Plymouth Argyle FC
    Dec 12, 2009
    Club:
    San Jose Frogs
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It's curious that he can deliver such a good, consistent set piece ball but not the same for open play passing. His passing is at times very good -- he usually makes a decision early and has the vision to pick out a good pass -- but he's not going to hit 100% of his passes like the top guys in his position.

    But holy hell what an amazing few weeks from him. He could be our new Geoff Cameron, a guy who came to Europe in the middle of his career and still managed a very good decade-ish there.
     
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  25. chad

    chad Member+

    Jun 24, 1999
    Manhattan Beach
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    He was so promising at such a young age. Not to hate on MLS, but he likely needed to be tested at a higher level earlier to see if his game could handle higher speeds. Hope it isn't too late for him to reach the potential he teased when he first got attention.
     
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