The Kashiwa Reysol Thread

Discussion in 'Japanese Club Football' started by Blue-San, Dec 17, 2011.

  1. Blue-San

    Blue-San Member+

    Jun 21, 2011
    Club:
    Kashima Antlers
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    No Kashiwa Reysol thread as well...



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    Discuss and say something about the team and their season and their next season and so on...
     
  2. CND_MARINO

    CND_MARINO Member

    Oct 30, 2010
    Ontario
    Club:
    Yokohama F Marinos
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    Woah... easy on the new threads, all Kashiwa thoughts will be discussed in the J1 thread unless there's specific Kashiwa fans on here, which for the timing being there isn't.
     
  3. Blue-San

    Blue-San Member+

    Jun 21, 2011
    Club:
    Kashima Antlers
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    I just finished my review of the season And went from 18th place to 1st.

    That is the reason I added the threads for those teams that were missing. Though I am surprised. I mean you don't have to be a fan to discuss them. And if you throw your post in the general J1 discussion it will be hard to find and isn't sorted.

    For instance some other threads have a good chronological overview and it was useful when I read them. Learned something new. But nothing could be learned about Kashiwa, Nagoya and other teams whose threads were not here.


    Just to stay on topic

    What do you guys think are the chances of both of Brazilians, Sakai, and Tanaka staying for the next season (I take it Kudo and Sugeno are 99% sure to stay)
     
  4. Saku²

    Saku² Member+

    Aug 22, 2009
    Club:
    FC Salzburg
  5. AKITOD

    AKITOD Member+

    Apr 5, 2007
    Hobart, Aust
    Club:
    JEF United Ichihara
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    I wonder if Kashiwa will invest in an 'out & out' striker to partner Tanaka or Kudo next season.
     
  6. Blue-San

    Blue-San Member+

    Jun 21, 2011
    Club:
    Kashima Antlers
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    Well they are bringing back Tomoki Ikemoto from loan and there are still some speculations circling around about Ricardo Lobo but that is imo IT as far as Strikers to Kashiwa is concerned. At last for this season.
     
  7. GunnerTNB

    GunnerTNB Member+

    Apr 4, 2011
    São Paulo
    Club:
    Botafogo Rio Janeiro
    I think Leandro Domingues and Jorge Wagner will stay. No speculation about any of them leaving yet. Sakai also should stay, at least until the Olympics.

    I'm looking forward to Reysol campaign in next ACL, it won't be easy to get through a group with Jeonbuk Motors and Guangzhou Evergrande.
     
  8. GunnerTNB

    GunnerTNB Member+

    Apr 4, 2011
    São Paulo
    Club:
    Botafogo Rio Janeiro
    Kashiwa annouced on its website five new players for next season:

    Goro Kawanami (GK) - loan return from Tochigi SC
    Masato Fujita (FB) - from Yokohama FC
    Ryoji Fukui (CB) - from Giravanz Kitakyushu
    Hirofumi Watanabe (CB) - loan return from Tochigi SC
    Ricardo Lobo (FW) - from Tochigi SC


    Park Dong-Hyuk (CB) is leaving to Chinese side Dalian Shide.
     
  9. Blue-San

    Blue-San Member+

    Jun 21, 2011
    Club:
    Kashima Antlers
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    Smart moves. Nothing really flashy, but really smart moves imo
     
  10. Blue-San

    Blue-San Member+

    Jun 21, 2011
    Club:
    Kashima Antlers
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    I don't know if someone has noticed it but anyway

    While I am doing my regular analysis of players and keeping tab of their scoring this info just stares at me all the time and it's becoming more and more obvious

    1. Hisato Sato (Sanfrecce Hiroshima) - 18......(64 strelov - 1 penal - 25 nastopov)
    2. Ryoichi Maeda (Jubilo Iwata) - 12.................(46 strelov - 1 penal - 25 nastopov)
    3. Akihiro Sato (Gamba Osaka) - 11................(38 strelov - 23 nastopov)
    3. Masato Kudo (Kashiwa Reysol) - 11..........(47 strelov - 24 nastopov)
    4. Wilson (Vegalta Sendai) - 10......(45 strelov - 2 penal - 23 nastopov)
    4. Yohei Toyoda (Sagan Tosu) - 10 (50 strelov - 24 nastopov)
    4. Genki Omae (Shimizu S-Pulse) - 10.........(44 - 2 penala - 25 nastopov)
    5. Shinzo Koroki (Kashima Antlers) - 9 .........( 39 strelov - 23 nastopov)
    6. Shingo Akamine (Vegalta Sendai) - 8........(39 strelov - 23 nastopov)
    6. Kensuke Nagai (Nagoya Grampus) - 8 (40 strelov - 22 nastopov)
    6. Marcio Richardes (Urawa Reds) - 8............(40 strelov - 2 penala - 22 nastopov)
    6. Leandro Dominguez (Kashiwa Reysol) - 8 (88 strelov - 1 penal - 23 nastopov)
    6. Lucas (FC Tokyo) - 8 (35 strelov - 1 penal - 25 nastopov)



    just a legend as it's written in Slovenian language

    strelov = shots
    penal = penalty
    nastopov = appearances

    I have highlighted the thing which was "bothering" me

    Sure enough Leandro likes to shoot a lot and is also creating himself chances to do so. But in the end it also comes to the realization of those chances and pure %
    If we check it for the above players...

    Akihiro Sato = 28,95%
    Hisato Sato = 28,13%
    Ryoichi Maeda = 26,09%
    Masato Kudo = 23,40%
    Shinzo Kuroki = 23,08%
    Lucas = 22,86%
    Genki Omae = 22,73%
    Wilson = 22,22%
    Shingo Akamine = 20,51%
    Yohei Toyoda = 20,00%
    Kensuke Nagai = 20,00%
    Marcio Richardes = 20,00%
    Leandro Dominguez = 9,09%



    Now I know those percentages do look tight apart from Leandro's but if we would to speak plainly we would just say that the worst of the lot like Nagai, Toyoda and Richardes would score a goal for every 5 chances they get while a guy like Maeda would need less than 4 and both Sato's are approaching only 3 chances per goal

    While our "ACE of spades" Leandro Dominguez actually needs more than 11 chances to score one goal. And if I add that out of those 8 goals of his one came from a penalty and he actually had two penalties so far (missed one)
    I think that this statistic actually does tell us something.
     
  11. nipponbasse83

    nipponbasse83 Member+

    Jun 17, 2007
    Ichikawa, Chiba, Japan
    Club:
    Consadole Sapporo
    Nat'l Team:
    Norway
    Interesting, but a big difference with most of those players is that Leandro is an AM, not a FW. Therefore, a lot of his shots comes from further out than what would be the case for a standard FW. Among those other players only Marcio Richardes are in the same position as Domingues.
     
  12. Blue-San

    Blue-San Member+

    Jun 21, 2011
    Club:
    Kashima Antlers
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    I did think of that and looked at the scoring charts and things were similar


    For instance:

    Hiroki Yamada 40 shots 8 goals = 20%
    Yoichiro Kakitani 35 shots 7 goals = 20%
    Toshiyuki Takagi 35 shots 8 goals = 22,22%
    Kim Bo Kyung 40 shots 7 goals = 17,5%
    Kosuke Yamamoto 24 shots 6 goals = 25%
    Genki Haraguchi 29 shots 6 goals = 20,67%
    (although he operates as some kind of striker)

    and for instance among the above 5 guys no one except Kim took any penalty shots (Kim took one and scored it)

    Leandro on the other hand had 2 penalty shots and scored one of those two
     
  13. Pjdawa

    Pjdawa Member

    Jan 18, 2011
    Club:
    Gamba Osaka
    i have to admit that this year i watched just 3 or 4 Reysol games (plus a couple in ACL),so i can't say i'm too expert about them,but i'm wondering what's the problem with Junya Tanaka...
    almost never a starter in the second half of the season,very late,late subs...now even Neto Baiano plays more than him!
    someone knows what's wrong with him?
     
  14. Blue-San

    Blue-San Member+

    Jun 21, 2011
    Club:
    Kashima Antlers
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    You mean what's wrong with the coach?


    I have a feeling it's the coach and not Junya
     
  15. Pjdawa

    Pjdawa Member

    Jan 18, 2011
    Club:
    Gamba Osaka
    I had that feeling too...but after all Nelsinho is the same man that launched him.
    So what's with Nelsinho: dementia senilis after winning the championship??
     
  16. Blue-San

    Blue-San Member+

    Jun 21, 2011
    Club:
    Kashima Antlers
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    I don't know the situation and cannot comment on it. But I like to see Junya in Reysol's attack so...
     
  17. GunnerTNB

    GunnerTNB Member+

    Apr 4, 2011
    São Paulo
    Club:
    Botafogo Rio Janeiro
    I hadn't watched much besides the highlights of their matches, but I've got the impression he went to the bench just because he's not impressing enough.
     
  18. magic journey

    magic journey Member+

    Feb 20, 2010
    whats gonna be the line up today game? vs urawa.
     
  19. Pjdawa

    Pjdawa Member

    Jan 18, 2011
    Club:
    Gamba Osaka
    Inada-Fujita,Nasu,Kondo,Hashimoto-L.Domingues,Kurisawa,Ohtani,Mizuno-Tanaka,Kudo.

    Junya finally starting,Jorge Wagner on the bench
    that's what's saying J.League official live report...but there's 2 hours to kick-off.
     
    magic journey repped this.
  20. magic journey

    magic journey Member+

    Feb 20, 2010
    thanks for the replay.
    and, whats your predict for this game?

    urawa must win the game for the title race,
    kashiwa too, for the acl spot.

    last league game of urawa is hurtfull for them. i wonder do they can recover...
    just look at nagoya, they didint recover yet it seems.

    i see a high tension match up today. could be lots of goals, 4-3 kashiwa or 2-3 urawa.

    :)
     
  21. Pjdawa

    Pjdawa Member

    Jan 18, 2011
    Club:
    Gamba Osaka
    I hope for a Reds win.
    But i don't think it will happen,and i don't think Reds could seriously challenge for title
     
  22. magic journey

    magic journey Member+

    Feb 20, 2010
    hmmm...
    a gamba fans to hope for urawa win, thats interesthing and rare to me.

    cerezo and kashiwa are the two teams that i like the game style in the league since few season .
    alongside good era of gamba.

    urawa this season current position is not bad, compare to the last few seasons.
    if they win this game, they can challenge or keep the acl spot.


    what ever it is, i hope to see good game from both side.
    i see a kashiwa victory . today is leandro's day. :) in gamba osaka in kashiwa.
     
  23. Whispered11

    Whispered11 Member+

    U.C. Sampdoria
    Japan
    Oct 4, 2011
    Munich, Germany
    Club:
    UC Sampdoria
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    Can somebody explain to me what happened with Kitajima?
    I don't understand this situation: according to Wiki, he is gone on loan to Roasso.
    Is here some Kashiwa-fan who can explain to me why - in one year - he moved from important part of the team to nothing?
     
  24. GunnerTNB

    GunnerTNB Member+

    Apr 4, 2011
    São Paulo
    Club:
    Botafogo Rio Janeiro
    Kitajima was an important player for Kashiwa at the beginning of last season, but his performances were below average in the second semester and he gradually lost his place to Kudo.
     
  25. Pjdawa

    Pjdawa Member

    Jan 18, 2011
    Club:
    Gamba Osaka
    Not so simple. Kitajima was a key figure in the promotion of Reysol and in the title winning season,not only on the pitch but also in the dressing room,being a charismatic figure and a life-long Reysol supporter.
    The way he was deemed surplus and being substituted in the line-up by Ricardo Lobo at the start of the season was quite poor.
     

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