The Gyasi Zardes thread

Discussion in 'USA Men: News & Analysis' started by Scotty, Sep 11, 2014.

  1. TOAzer

    TOAzer Member+

    The Man With No Club
    May 29, 2016
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Although it may be that he was asked to, having an eye to GB coming in.
     
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  2. DCYC

    DCYC Member

    Chivas, DC United, Reno 1868
    Mar 24, 2010
    Reno, NV
    Club:
    CD Chivas de Guadalajara
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    Roles were different though, with Sarachan he was more like a complementary player, with Gregg he is being asked to manage midfield which I don't think he is able to do
     
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  3. Ghost

    Ghost Member+

    Sep 5, 2001
    He gets to the rim.
     
  4. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    VB, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Zardes is like the anti-Nagbe. Nagbe is really good so long as he's not in position to score a goal or make an assist. Once in that area, he sucks.

    Zardes' touch is disqualifyingly bad unless he's in close. Then he's passably good and freakishly lucky.
     
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  5. juveeer

    juveeer Member+

    Aug 3, 2006
    Zardes DA GAWWWWDDDD!
     
  6. ChrisSSBB

    ChrisSSBB Member+

    Jun 22, 2005
    NV
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Freakishly lucky sounds like a superpower.
     
  7. juveeer

    juveeer Member+

    Aug 3, 2006
    So was Gerd Mueller.

    And Pippo Inzaghi.

    In the box though any body part would do.
     
  8. ChrisSSBB

    ChrisSSBB Member+

    Jun 22, 2005
    NV
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I played with guys like that (much lower level). At a certain point, you just have to give them their due.
     
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  9. IndividualEleven

    Mar 16, 2006
    Nagbe's attacking passing was actually excellent during the period when Josef was in his funk. He's more of a possession mid, though

    Zardes's strengths are stamina, combo play, and soccer IQ. His goals were the result of strong combo play. He is not a lone forward. He lacks the aerial game to dominate on headers. He lacks the pace to race past defenders to latch onto leading crosses. He lacks the power and touch hold up the ball. He lacks the balance and super-quick feet needed for poaching.

    The players who come closest to being complete lone forwards are CJ Sapong and Christian Ramirez. So it'd behoove the team continue with the combo play displayed in the second half. Reminded me of Gyasi's MLS Cup-winning year with LA.
     
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  10. butters59

    butters59 Member+

    Feb 22, 2013
    He contributes a lot to the team, but as Donovan said Zardes needs service.
     
  11. cyberthoth

    cyberthoth Member

    Aug 7, 2000
    Nashville, TN
    Club:
    DC United
    At this point I think we all owe Zardes an apology. Yes his touch is bad. Yes a better forward would really serve this team well and frankly I think we all believe that forward will be Sergeant and his time will be soon. But there's a talent for scoring BS goals and just being in the right spot and not blowing it. Zardes seems to have that talent. He's not a bad player to have on the squad. That third goal was a thing of beauty just as much as his first in this tournament was a thing of ridiculousness.
     
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  12. IndividualEleven

    Mar 16, 2006
    More to the point, he needs a certain pattern of play to succeed.
     
  13. IndividualEleven

    Mar 16, 2006
    I don't get the hard on for Sargent. Soto. Ferreira. Vazquez. Nova. They're all promising.
     
  14. IndividualEleven

    Mar 16, 2006
    Even when he does well, GZ gets the patronizing praise. People can't admit their idiotic criticism. He's been a good forward for the US. He has a good goals/assists record in competition. Maybe better will come along. Wouldn't put all the hope on one unproven player, though.
     
  15. butters59

    butters59 Member+

    Feb 22, 2013
    He is very coachable. Succeeded on Arena's LAG and GB Crew. Hopefully in 2 years the kids will push him off. Meanwhile he is good enough for Concacaf.
     
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  16. IndividualEleven

    Mar 16, 2006
    He had a goal and an assist in the Copa. And he's only 27. I don't think he'll be pushed off the team. I am hopeful one of the youngsters develop enough to claim the #1 spot.
     
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  17. butters59

    butters59 Member+

    Feb 22, 2013
    Good enough for me.
     
  18. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Damn that is accurate
     
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  19. IndividualEleven

    Mar 16, 2006
    Not really. If he's lucky that many times it's not luck.
     
  20. Tmagic77

    Tmagic77 Member+

    Feb 10, 2003
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nobody owes Gyasi an apology, every criticism of him is accurate. Scoring a tap in and an uncontested shot from inside the box against the 98th ranked team in the world (ELO) doesn't cover up for the fact that his scoring rate is awful and he kills a ton of attacks with his donkey touch.

    The post game posts in this thread are fairly typical Bigsoccer overreactions.

    Yeah, he'll get a lot more time, and him being in "good" form will be really important for us, but his role in the team is soley down to our forward pool being trash outside injury prone Jozy and a teenager fighting for playing time in Josh Sargent.
     
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  21. IndividualEleven

    Mar 16, 2006
    Most of the criticism has been over the top nonsense. And none of our forwards scored against 106th elo-ranked T&T in October 2017.

    He has a good goals-assists per 90 record for the US. Claims to contrary are just lies in the service of inanity and some kind of unhealthy fixation for a teenage boy
     
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  22. NGV

    NGV Member+

    Sep 14, 1999
    You're really stretching here to deny Zardes credit for his two goals tonight. Both were excellent.

    On the first goal, it's Zardes' dribbling that opens up the space for Bradley. And as soon as Bradley sends it in, Zardes anticipates where the play is going to go, allowing him to get in behind the defense.

    On the second goal, the fact that Zardes was briefly "uncontested" was a result of his own smart off-the-ball movement (along with Pulisic drawing a defender).
     
  23. Silky_Johnson

    Silky_Johnson New Member

    LA galaxy
    United States
    Jun 23, 2019
    zardes is good.. compare him to brian ching... hes miles better
    he scored our second winning goal vs ecuador in the copa america
     
  24. Silky_Johnson

    Silky_Johnson New Member

    LA galaxy
    United States
    Jun 23, 2019
    Also Berhalter= Beerholder
     
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  25. Scotty

    Scotty Member+

    Dec 15, 1999
    Campania

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