The Green Card Queue: Who Could Be Next?

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  1. Heist

    Heist Member+

    Jun 15, 2001
    Virginia
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Didn't know about that loophole. Thx.
     
  2. mike4066

    mike4066 Member+

    Jun 30, 2007
    Chula Vista, CA
    Club:
    Fulham FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    He has to prove that the amount of money he would make overseas isn't doable in the US but yes its a small loophole.
     
  3. Heist

    Heist Member+

    Jun 15, 2001
    Virginia
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That could be pretty easy to at least assert with sine evidence. Proof seems like it would depend on how heavy the burden of proof is.
     
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  4. BostonRed

    BostonRed Member+

    Oct 9, 2011
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  5. BostonRed

    BostonRed Member+

    Oct 9, 2011
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Updated Master List:

    Player| Date Green Card |Date Earliest Citizenship | Age at Citizenship | In US Since


    Harrison Heath (England) | ~2011 | ~2016| (20) | ~2008 +

    Jesus Ferreira (Colombia) | 2012 | 2017 | (16) | 2009 +

    Latif Blessing (Ghana) | Nov. 2017 | 2022 | (25) | 2017

    Luciano Acosta (Argentina) | Jan. 2018 | 2023 | (29) | 2016

    Luke Mulholland (England) | Dec. 2014 | Dec. 2019 | (31) | 2011


    Footnotes:

    NLT = No Later Than
    Bold = In the window for US citizenship


    + These players may suffer from the "Gedion Zelalem Conundrum" in that they weren't born in the US and may be subject to the "5 years residency after turning 18" rule. We'll see if FIFA grants any waivers on this rule.

    Dropped:
    Oduro
     
  6. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Can we deport both Harrison Heath and his equally useless father?
     
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  7. HScoach13

    HScoach13 Member+

    Nov 30, 2016
    Club:
    Atlanta
    I heard an interview on Sirus FC not sure what program of Julian Gressel prior to the second leg with NYRB. He will marrying in the offseason and is interesting in gaining citizenship. He has already been in the country since 2013.
     
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  8. BostonRed

    BostonRed Member+

    Oct 9, 2011
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    We talked about him and his situation in this thread in October. Looks like 2022 would be the target time for him to be a US citizen.
     
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  9. HScoach13

    HScoach13 Member+

    Nov 30, 2016
    Club:
    Atlanta
    Thanks missed that discussion...
     
  10. BostonRed

    BostonRed Member+

    Oct 9, 2011
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Jesus Ferreira getting close to graduating this thread?

     
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  11. BostonRed

    BostonRed Member+

    Oct 9, 2011
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Some official word on Jesus's US citizenship:

    https://www.fcdallas.com/post/2019/...-ferreira-testing-water-us-u-20s-january-camp

    When his father left Dallas at the end of 2013, Jesus, his mother and two younger brothers all stayed in Frisco so he could remain in the FCD Academy. As a minor up until last week, he was unable to file for U.S. citizenship - something he planned on doing regardless of the country eventually he chooses to play for. Without it, he was unable to represent or fully consider the U.S. National Team on the international stage, despite a call-up to the U-17s for a camp in 2016.

    Ferreira says he began filling out the paperwork in November so that when his birthday came on Dec. 21, he could send it off to begin the official process. Although his citizenship has not been finalized yet, its impending status has piqued the interest of those at U.S. Soccer, including Tab Ramos who has now called the Homegrown to camp as he prepares for the U-20 World Cup in May.

    Ferreira stresses, though, that his call-up is about testing the waters and not indicative of a decision to who he will represent - though he confirmed that the Colombian Federation has not reached out to him..
     
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  12. BostonRed

    BostonRed Member+

    Oct 9, 2011
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #1012 BostonRed, Jan 22, 2019
    Last edited: Jan 22, 2019
    Nico Carrera joins the mix:



    He's only 16, so the process is dependent upon his parent(s). One of them gets citizenship and he can be included in the petition.
     
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  13. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
  14. gunnerfan7

    gunnerfan7 Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Jul 22, 2012
    Santa Cruz, California
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Got married in December, so he's got 3 years before he can be a citizen and eligible.
     
  15. butters59

    butters59 Member+

    Feb 22, 2013
    There are approximately 6 years between obtaining GC and citizenship.
     
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  16. gunnerfan7

    gunnerfan7 Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Jul 22, 2012
    Santa Cruz, California
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Except for the fact that he's married to a US citizen, shortening the time frame considerably down to 3 years.
     
  17. Lloyd Heilbrunn

    Lloyd Heilbrunn Member+

    Feb 11, 2002
    Jupiter, Fl.
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Anyway we can get him to go to Utah, and add a 2nd wife, to shorten it down to a year and 1/2?
     
  18. alslammerz

    alslammerz Member

    Sep 3, 2007
    Staten Island, NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    We just need to get his wife a qualified job overseas.

    Naturalization for Spouses of US Citizens (open)

    Spouses of U.S. Citizens Employed Abroad
    Generally, the spouse of a U.S. citizen who is employed by the U.S. government, including the military, or other qualifying employer, whose spouse is scheduled to be stationed abroad in such employment for at least 1 year at the time of filing, may be eligible for naturalization under Section 319(b) of the INA.

    In general, a spouse of a U.S. citizen employed abroad must be present in the United States pursuant to a lawful admission for permanent residence at the time of examination on the naturalization application and at the time of naturalization, and meet of all of the requirements listed above except that:

    • No specific period as a permanent resident (Green Card holder) is required (but the spouse must be a permanent resident)
    • No specific period of continuous residence or physical presence in the United States is required
    • No specific period of marital union is required; however, the spouses must be in a valid marriage at the time of filing until the time of naturalization.
    Note: You must also establish that you will depart abroad immediately after naturalization and that you intend to reside in the United States immediately upon the termination of your spouse’s employment abroad.
     
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  19. Lloyd Heilbrunn

    Lloyd Heilbrunn Member+

    Feb 11, 2002
    Jupiter, Fl.
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Maybe she can hold back the "crowds" for Trump's Britain visit?
     
  20. BostonRed

    BostonRed Member+

    Oct 9, 2011
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    David Regis, is that you?
     
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  21. BostonRed

    BostonRed Member+

    Oct 9, 2011
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  22. Clint Eastwood

    Clint Eastwood Member+

    Dec 23, 2003
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    According to FCD "insider" Buzz Carrick, Jesus Ferreira has gotten his citizenship.
    Great news for the Olympic qualifying team first.

     
  23. BostonRed

    BostonRed Member+

    Oct 9, 2011
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Some potential complications for Julian Gressel if he goes overseas:

    https://theathletic.com/1409306/2019/11/25/

    He’s already on the path to U.S. citizenship. Last winter, the 25-year-old married an American woman, his college sweetheart, and received a green card in May, putting him on track to apply for naturalization in May 2022. That should leave plenty of time for his paperwork to be filed and approved before the 2022 World Cup, which will begin in November instead of the summer...

    I don't have a sub, but he would need to have 3 years of residency (which is accomplished by showing you intend to return to the US and that's it's your permanent residence) and 1.5 years of physical presence during that 3 years. That's the harder part. He already has let's say 8 months at the end of the year, but he'll need to get the other 10 months during that 3 years. Not so easy.
     
  24. striker

    striker Member+

    Aug 4, 1999
    I vaguely remember that David Regis' citizenship was expedited, without him spending much time residing in the USA. IIRC, the loophole was that his wife had to take up certain job in Europe. Is that loophole still there?
     
  25. BostonRed

    BostonRed Member+

    Oct 9, 2011
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yes. Any US citizen who takes a government or US commerce-related position overseas can apply for immediate US citizenship for a Green Card holding spouse.

    The spouse of a U.S. citizen who is “regularly stationed abroad” in qualifying employment may be eligible for naturalization on the basis of their marriage. Spouses otherwise eligible under this provision are exempt from the continuous residence and physical presence requirements for naturalization.

    Qualifying employment abroad means to be under employment contract or orders and to assume the duties of employment in any of following entities or positions:

    • Government of the United States (including the U.S. armed forces);
    • American institution of research recognized as such by the Attorney General;
    • American firm or corporation engaged in whole or in part in the development of foreign trade and commerce of the United States, or a subsidiary thereof;
    • Public international organization in which the United States participates by treaty or statute;
    • Authorized to perform the ministerial or priestly functions of a religious denomination having a bona fide organization within the United States; or
    • Engaged solely as a missionary by a religious denomination or by an interdenominational mission organization having a bona fide organization within the United States.
    https://www.uscis.gov/policy-manual/volume-12-part-g-chapter-4
     
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