the Gold Cup needs ESPN

Discussion in 'Gold Cup' started by dundee9, Jun 28, 2010.

  1. frankiepop

    frankiepop New Member

    Mar 27, 2011
    Club:
    Kansas City Wizards

    i cared. it destroyed the gold cup. i have asked the "thesoccerdon" on twitter Don Garber the president of MLS to state if he is up to his old bullshit, but no answer. you guys take a shot or two at him.
     
  2. HomietheClown

    HomietheClown Member+

    Dusselheim FC 1971
    Sep 4, 2010
    Club:
    --other--
    I am not saying that everything needs to be a novela nor am I saying that ESPN's coverage would make this into a Euro Cup ratings fest.


    What I am saying is that ESPN can help the tournament ratings wise, marketing wise and getting the word out. Also as shown during the World Cup and Olympics our media LOVES sappy off the field stories to focus upon to get those casual fans excited.

    Most American fans and casual fans do not watch Univision/Fox soccer channel so they have no clue a tournament is even going on. ESPN would help.
     
  3. dundee9

    dundee9 Member

    Jan 13, 2007
    i'm not sure what FSC pays for the Gold Cup but they wouldn't purchase the rights of the tournament if they couldn't make a profit from it.

    i pretty much agree that there's not that big of an audience for this tournament. But there's not that big of an audience for women's volleyball, bowling, lacrosse etc - all sports that ESPN broadcasts. I think ESPN would be more likely to want to broadcast the Gold Cup if it were every 4 years instead of 2. The Gold Cup that doesn't have the confed cup tie-in is even less attractive of a tournament and this confusion makes the brand of the Gold Cup difficult to market to an audience.

    Casual sports fan - "Is this the year we care about the Gold Cup? "no, the next one in two years". So, that confusion alone makes the brand of the gold cup weaker.
     
  4. mikeyjames

    mikeyjames Member

    Jun 20, 2009
    you make absolutely no sense when you say nobody wants to see a bunch of unknown players. Trinidad & Australia make it to the world cup with a bunch of fairly unknown players and had people cheering for them, why ? because people love to seeing the under dogs come out on top. im sure you could not name 5 players off the Australian team before the world cup. for example look at Guadeloupe they came into the gold cup a few years ago pretty much unknown, they beat Honduras and lost 1-0 to mexico. so speak for yourself, you may not be interested in seeing those teams but you don't speak for everybody else. if concacaf was not making any money from the tournament not only would they not have it every 2 years, they would not have it at all.

    i hate when people come on this forum and act like their opinion is a representation of everybody else's. i can say the same thing about golf but thats my opinion, my opinion does not represent the next forum member or anybody else for that matter.... so don't say people say YOU don't wanna see it. i like watching the unknown teams because some of those team's have hidden talent and you don't really know what to expect from them. thats why i watch a lot of uk league 1/ championship football.
     
  5. Gwadaboyz 72

    Gwadaboyz 72 Member

    Jun 27, 2009
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Right you are my friend! :)
     
  6. benitoelwerito

    Nov 10, 2004
    Toluca
    Club:
    Club Deportivo FAS
    Nat'l Team:
    El Salvador
    Snap! jaja. I agree though. Fans of football like the game, and those unknowns. I love unknowns. This Gold Cup we're going to see lots of good unknown action. :p
     
  7. MasterShake29

    MasterShake29 Member+

    Oct 28, 2001
    Jersey City, NJ
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Would you want to risk your brand name to deal with Jack Warner?
     
  8. gettysburg32

    gettysburg32 New Member

    Jul 19, 2003
    Around VA and PA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Even if ESPN got rights to televise the Gold Cup it would be to televise the U.S. games (with the U.S. vs. Guadeloupe/Panama on a secondary ESPN channel) and the final. At most, El Salvador vs. Guadeloupe would be put on ESPN3.com.
    This probably helps U.S. soccer a bit, but the Gold Cup/CONCACAF as a whole, not really.
    Plus, ESPN getting on board probably locks the tournament to the U.S. as permanent host even more.
    ESPN covering a handful of the tournament's games when it's sending crews to Detroit, Tampa, Kansas City, D.C., Houston and L.A. during the course of a month, pretty simple and cheap for ESPN. It's the same thing as covering 3-4 baseball games a week.
    Sending crews to Saprissa for six or seven matches over a month? Now it's more expense with less revenue coming in since, at least in the short term, the U.S. playing a "minor" tournament in the U.S. draws at least some interest while the U.S. playing a "minor" tournament in Mexico, Costa Rica or Jamaica draws um, squat.
    Then, if U.S. hosting + ESPN equals a little bigger pie for Warner and the 35 Caribbean federations to divy up, now Warner tries even harder to keep the U.S. as host and he'll jump through whatever hoop is needed to keep ESPN happy.
     
  9. Pønch

    Pønch Saprissista

    Aug 23, 2006
    Donde siempre
    What the Gold Cup needs is for Concacaf to at least try to pretend it was a real tournament:

    http://www.monumental.co.cr/noticia.aspx?id=90550435-9c03-4dcb-8515-c6c00847dc7f

    The winner of the Gold Cup gets a measly $200K prize? WTF?

    Just to compare, Copa América gives $650K just for showing up.

    What a joke.
     
  10. MRschizoid21

    MRschizoid21 Member

    Nov 5, 2004
    Brooklyn, NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    You would think that having the tournament in the USA every year would enable them to have some decent prize money. Wow.

    Maybe they need to start bringing guest teams back.
     
  11. MasterShake29

    MasterShake29 Member+

    Oct 28, 2001
    Jersey City, NJ
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    They also need for Jack Warner to go away as fast as possible.
     
  12. ceezmad

    ceezmad Member+

    Mar 4, 2010
    Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Red Stars
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Who is going to the Gold cup games?

    Who will boycott?

    Should the people that are going (me included) have banners, chants about "FIFA sucks"?

    Before? During? After? The National anthems, during the FIFA anthem?
     
  13. CACuzcatlan

    CACuzcatlan Member

    Jun 11, 2007
    San Francisco, CA
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Probably none at all. None on FX, Fox Sports, or regular Fox. The only hope would be a US-Mexico final, but I bet they'll choose to show a baseball game instead.
     
  14. Gutch220

    Gutch220 Member

    Apr 26, 2010
    NJ
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    if Fox Soccer Channel got onto a basic cable tier of programming instead of sports packages, that would help a lot.
     
  15. HomietheClown

    HomietheClown Member+

    Dusselheim FC 1971
    Sep 4, 2010
    Club:
    --other--
    ESPN has shown a lot of Gold Cup highlights this year in comparison to past cups.

    They also had some segments about the Mexico Doping scandal during sports center.

    This is a good sign. They are actually acknowledging the tournament.

    I hope it leads them to bid for broadcast rights in the near future.
     
  16. winster

    winster Member

    Jul 7, 2008
    Club:
    Besiktas JK
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The problem is ESPN is not interested in watching Grenada get waxed by 5 or six goals each game. If they ever buy the rights they will probably choose to show one game per night in stead of both of them.

    The improved quality of the US, Mexico and to a lesser extent some of the Central American sides has made a lot of Gold Cup games unwatcheable. In both '05 and '07 the worst group stage goal differential was -6 (Cuba in both instances). This year there are two teams that will probably more than double that negative differential and Guadeloupe could also end with a really poor goal differential.
     
  17. HomietheClown

    HomietheClown Member+

    Dusselheim FC 1971
    Sep 4, 2010
    Club:
    --other--
    Well They can do what FSC does and just show the USA matches. They can take it a step further and show the Mexican matches too and have the ESPN Deportes guys (who speak English) hype it up.

    The rest they can stream on ESPN 3.
     
  18. ceezmad

    ceezmad Member+

    Mar 4, 2010
    Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Red Stars
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I remember the USA-Spain game.

    The Spanish chanel has a 30 pre-game show going.

    ESPN had College girls Softball up to the start of the game. That is how much respect ESPN has for Soccer. :rolleyes: Good thing it wasn't an overtime champioship softball game, other wise they would have shown that and no the soccer game.
     
  19. billf

    billf Member+

    May 22, 2001
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    ESPN has given soccer a great deal of respect. I'd hardly pick at the lack of a pre-game show for a friendly as a lack of respect, particularly given the Spain game's being on ESPN proper as well. I mean the nerve of ESPN for broadcasting a softball game in accordance with its contractual obligations...
     
  20. ceezmad

    ceezmad Member+

    Mar 4, 2010
    Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Red Stars
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

    Exactly! :p

    I mean, Telemundo, Univision and those dudes will interrupt Telenovelas for a 1 hour pregame show for Mexico, yes that is right, they will interrupt Telenovelas :eek:
     
  21. MetroChile

    MetroChile Member+

    Jan 13, 2001
    NJ; Valpo.
    Club:
    Santiago Wanderers
    Nat'l Team:
    Chile
    God damn! :eek:
     
  22. jass

    jass Member

    Oct 12, 2006
    Club:
    Parana Curitiba
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    Today they had over an hour pre-game show for the USA match.

    And the second game ate deeply into some planned show they had to keep reminding viewers was "airing soon".
     
  23. ceezmad

    ceezmad Member+

    Mar 4, 2010
    Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Red Stars
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Little giants if I remember correctly.
     

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