The Garden Party: Christian Pulisic at Borussia Dortmund (on loan from Chelsea FC)

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  1. Jazzy Altidore

    Jazzy Altidore Member+

    Sep 2, 2009
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
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    United States
    Let's set a goal of 8 and 8.
     
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  2. FC Tallavana

    FC Tallavana Member+

    Jul 1, 2004
    The desert
    Pretty shortsided by a league looking to increase its footprint. You'd think the better route would be to fire the guy who looks for these videos and hire the guy who makes them.
     
  3. Suyuntuy

    Suyuntuy Member+

    Jul 16, 2007
    Vancouver, Canada
    The argument goes more of less like this:

    "Puli has better numbers than you think, so no need for you guys to get all worked up."
    "Willian had better numbers in Shakhtar and we bought Pulisic to be an upgrade on Willian, so it's a bad buy."
    "Can't compare the Ukrainian league to the Bundesliga."
    "Even if the Bundesliga is somewhat better, doesn't compensate for Willian's numbers."
     
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  4. smokarz

    smokarz Member+

    Aug 9, 2006
    Hartford, CT
  5. Bruce S

    Bruce S Member+

    Sep 10, 1999
    this is called "the statistics of small numbers"
     
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  6. Bruce S

    Bruce S Member+

    Sep 10, 1999
    at least in your head.
     
  7. Bruce S

    Bruce S Member+

    Sep 10, 1999
    Nothing like it. I think Deuce's goal was off his shin.
     
  8. EruditeHobo

    EruditeHobo Member+

    Mar 29, 2007
    San Francisco, CA
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
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    United States
    And 2 of CP's goals were a weird fluke deflection and against a BL2 side, right? But we're still holding up g/a per 90 for a 1000 minute season, and not looking at other numbers, as if that's a complete view of an attacker.

    That said, to be fair to the dude his overall numbers ARE better than last season! The question of the minutes does remain though, for me.
     
  9. FirstStar

    FirstStar Hustlin' for the USA

    Feb 1, 2005
    Time's Arrow
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Maybe. He definitely scuffed it (announcers even said so) but the picture quality is terrible- still looks to me like he got it on the side of his foot. Regardless, probably the best (or at least most meaningful) debutant goal in FFC history.
     
  10. madvillain

    madvillain Member+

    Aug 28, 2011
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    Brooklyn Knights
    Really great touch in the box from Pulisic on that assist. It's too bad he doesn't have a better shot because he's excellent in tight spaces in front of goal.
     
  11. y-lee-coyote

    y-lee-coyote Member+

    Dec 4, 2012
    Club:
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    The best thing about his goal and assist are the OT stuff has stopped, and his detractors have gone back to lurking.
     
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  12. cgrussell

    cgrussell Member

    Jan 7, 2019
    It really doesn't make any sense. You'd think they'd be aware of and follow the NBA model of just letting people do their thing. It was a huge success for them however many years back it was they loosened up.
     
  13. Casper

    Casper Member+

    Mar 30, 2001
    New York
    Clearly everything is going well with the Bundesliga and they don't need to do a single thing differently. Now just let me go check the Champions League results...

    (SCREAMS IN HORROR)

    ... never mind, you may have a point.
     
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  14. taylor

    taylor Member+

    Jun 9, 2000
    Fav team: FC CARL ZEISS JENA
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    Germany
    Nope still here. 17 min of play does not obfuscate the past two years or the train wreck move to chlsea.
     
  15. lmorin

    lmorin Member+

    Mar 29, 2000
    New Hampshire
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    Well, you have certainly obfuscated my recollections of the past 2 yrs for CP; I thought things went pretty well for a American teenager. As for the train wreck, I think that opinion says more about Chelsea than about the value of the transfer to CP. It's totally a wait-and-see issue for me.
     
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  16. UxSxAxfooty

    UxSxAxfooty Member+

    Jan 23, 2003
    Rochester, NY
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
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    United States
    [​IMG]
     
  17. Dirt McGirt

    Dirt McGirt Member+

    Jun 20, 2005
    Phoenix, AZ
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
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    United States
    We cover our tracks to obscure our numbers.
     
  18. frankburgers

    frankburgers Member

    May 31, 2016
    ehh.

    one solid game is great! lets also not forget the games where he looks like he hasn't progressed in the final third and taken the next step.

    now if this one good game turns into 7, then lets get excited.
     
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  19. Dr.Phil

    Dr.Phil Member+

    Jan 18, 2004
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Im still amazed that Chelsea purchased him for that much
     
  20. y-lee-coyote

    y-lee-coyote Member+

    Dec 4, 2012
    Club:
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    I wasn't excited about his good game, I was excited about the off topic BS and all the endless "how terrible he is this season" has died for a minute.

    I think he has had a pretty good season for a twenty year old soccer player. His last outing was enough to give some more minutes on the pitch even if just for thirty min sub apps. I am okay with professional appearances where he does a job. He came as a talented football loving kid out of Hershey, and he is leaving Dortmund to go to one of the top clubs in the world where he will surely get at least a chance or two. Dortmund got some quality minutes and a huge amount of Euros/GB pounds. He is leaving with honor and not like Dembo or Auba did.

    He is not looking like a future ballon d'or winner or anything like that, but that is an expectation problem and not a Pulisic problem. He is a class player, we have some time, and I doubt we have seen his last champions league appearance. His apparent lack of progress could boil down to not getting coached up since he is a loan player, and plenty good enough to do what they are asking of him.

    I don't think his best soccer is behind him. His flaws can be frustrating at times, but I think they are fixable. I really want to see somebody decide to use him in the middle, but an attacking wide forward is okay if he is with a team that plays mostly on the front foot.
     
  21. LouisianaViking07/09

    Aug 15, 2009
    English clubs always grossly overpay.
     
  22. Suyuntuy

    Suyuntuy Member+

    Jul 16, 2007
    Vancouver, Canada
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  23. smokarz

    smokarz Member+

    Aug 9, 2006
    Hartford, CT

    Just wait until you see how much an EPL team will be paying for Sancho.

    Is Sancho 2x or 3x better than Pulisic? He's likely going to go for that much more $$$.
     
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  24. Dr.Phil

    Dr.Phil Member+

    Jan 18, 2004
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It's only a matter of time
     
  25. appoo

    appoo Member+

    Jul 30, 2001
    USA
    *spends a bunch of time saying that Pulisic isn't that good and a club will never spend a high transfer fee on him

    *a super club buys him for an incredibly high fee. 2 different clubs meet the pirce

    *Spends a bunch of a time saying that the club that spent the money is dumb for doing

    God I'm sick of BS USA forums.
     
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