The End of the Semester gripe thread

Discussion in 'Education and Academia' started by christopher d, Nov 25, 2004.

  1. christopher d

    christopher d New Member

    Jun 11, 2002
    Weehawken, NJ
    Question on this last part.

    Once upon a time, in a land far, far away, the holy grail for making it to College was that you were given the freedom to show up to class when/if you pleased, and would pass based on the merits of your assignments/exams. Obviously, by 1990, this was no longer the case :(. What happened?

    Back to griping. Damned incompletes still kicking my ass, keeping me up late... *grumble grumble*
     
  2. Dr. Wankler

    Dr. Wankler Member+

    May 2, 2001
    The Electric City
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Interesting question, but first, hope you're having good luck on the incompletes.

    As far as having the freedom to show up and passing based on the assignments, that still works in some lecture classes, even at the small college where I teach. But this particular course enrolls 18 and is run pretty much in a workshop format, so if you don't show up, you're not doing specific assignments. As far as attendance policies go, most professors have them just to have the option of using them. Again in my case, if a student misses more classes than the syllabus allows, but still gets all the work done on time and isn't a pain in the ass, I can let him or her slide. But if they miss these classes and expect me to take time tutoring them on stuff that was already covered, or if they assume they're entitled to the benefit of the doubt because they're somehow more special than the other students, then I'll invoke the attendance policy to lower their grade accordingly. It's a judgment call for me.
     
  3. christopher d

    christopher d New Member

    Jun 11, 2002
    Weehawken, NJ
    Also see John 19:29... the last words of Jesus.


    :D :D :D
     
  4. rokstedy

    rokstedy Member+

    I love commieball
    Apr 20, 2001
    Northwest Orange County
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Too much reading, too much memorization, too much studying. AARGH!
     
  5. Ismitje

    Ismitje Super Moderator
    Staff Member

    Dec 30, 2000
    The Palouse
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'll add to what Dr. Wankler posted: in that far off time, simply lecturing at students was acceptable. I lecture to you roughly what is in assigned texts, you write it down or not as you wish. I assess you on the material. Now (thankfully in my mind) class sessions tend to be more interactive and dynamic, and many of us assign texts that complement or supplement lecture material rather than replicate it. Here's the funny thing: the new model is more work for us. The class needs your attendance, and you need to attend. You will not pass otherwise.

    Not "you" you, SObearCAL, "you" the student you.
     
  6. Dr. Wankler

    Dr. Wankler Member+

    May 2, 2001
    The Electric City
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Boy, that's true, especially if you do it well. There are a lot of students who think that it's actually less work (and it might be, if the teacher doesn't prepare or doesn't listen to students in order to direct the lines of questioning in productive ways), but it would be so much easier just to go in and talk for 50-75 minutes, then check to see how well the tests and papers reproduce the content of the lectures.
     
  7. billyireland

    billyireland Member+

    May 4, 2003
    Sydney, Australia
    I have FOUR days left, just four left in my time in secondary (high) school. I have 7 exams that decide what college I get into coming up in June, but I'm pretty confident about them - this has been one long, hard, grinding year and it's all over come Thursday!!
     
  8. pething101

    pething101 Member

    Jul 31, 2001
    Smyrna, Ga
    Club:
    West Ham United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Is it over yet?

    *sigh*

    Not yet.
     
  9. KCWiz

    KCWiz New Member

    May 8, 2003
    Manhattan, Kansas
    Well hot damn. I got 5 As and 1 B (literature). And I got a 97% on that final, too. Guess it's not good enough for her. I hate our grading scale, also. Flippin 92% is a B. FnA.
     
  10. Metros Striker10

    Metros Striker10 New Member

    Jul 7, 2001
    Planet Earth
    What?!? I thought that B's were 80-89...what is the reason for that being done?!?
     
  11. Iceblink

    Iceblink Member

    Oct 11, 1999
    Chicago
    Club:
    Ipswich Town FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Lots of schools have different grading scales.

    Our official grading scale has, I believe 94 as an A. My high school had that too.

    I have a hard time giving someone with an 85 a C though... I think that's what it is... so I don't really use the scale.

    Schools say that they want "academic rigor" and to be more challenging. I guess calling a 93 a B is the way they want to do it, but I prefer the regular scale.

    Next year, I want to try something new though. I want to do a typical grading scale with a twist.

    100-90 = A
    89- 80 = B
    79 - 70 = C
    Below 70... F!!!!!!

    At my school, too many students only want that D. That's what they strive for. I want to eliminate the 60s completely... not have them be actual success. I think it's fair.
     
  12. KCWiz

    KCWiz New Member

    May 8, 2003
    Manhattan, Kansas
    Here's ours:

    A 100-93
    B 92-86
    C 85-77
    D 76-70
    F 69-0

    So I got a 98% on my term paper. A 94% on the final. But my busy work for the semester was only an 89%. I just hate it when teachers give a shitload of busywork because, well, I'm kind of lazy.
     
  13. Metros Striker10

    Metros Striker10 New Member

    Jul 7, 2001
    Planet Earth
    That's how some schools are grading. I see no problem in it. A "C" is bad enough, so why should there be a "D?"
     

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