Cantina MX Podcast Fact Check and Analysis Thread

Discussion in 'Mexico National Team' started by Rebaño_Sagrado, Oct 12, 2015.

  1. Mr. Pink

    Mr. Pink Member+

    Aug 29, 2005
    Club:
    CD Chivas de Guadalajara
    Nat'l Team:
    Bahamas
    No show prior to the game. Step it up
     
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  2. Serg33

    Serg33 Member+

    Jul 11, 2007
    Need those pregame hot takes...
     
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  3. Chiquitibum

    Chiquitibum Member+

    Apr 4, 2004
    Norte
    Club:
    Pumas UNAM
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    We going live in game chat
     
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  4. Chiquitibum

    Chiquitibum Member+

    Apr 4, 2004
    Norte
    Club:
    Pumas UNAM
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    We got special guest Nate Abaurrea on tonights podcast brethren!

     
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  5. DGreat

    DGreat Moderator
    Staff Member

    CD Guadalajara
    Mexico
    Oct 5, 2007
    El Ombligo
    Club:
    CD Chivas de Guadalajara
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    who is that?
     
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  6. Chiquitibum

    Chiquitibum Member+

    Apr 4, 2004
    Norte
    Club:
    Pumas UNAM
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    He covers Xolos and does an English broadcast of their games.
     
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  7. Chiquitibum

    Chiquitibum Member+

    Apr 4, 2004
    Norte
    Club:
    Pumas UNAM
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
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  8. metalmaster

    metalmaster Member+

    Jul 7, 2004
    In the wrong hood
    Club:
    Hakoah Maccabi Ramat Gan
    For what network?
    Never heard of anyone in SD listening to Xolos games in English. Interesting.
     
  9. metalmaster

    metalmaster Member+

    Jul 7, 2004
    In the wrong hood
    Club:
    Hakoah Maccabi Ramat Gan
    So this cat is saying Xolos wining the title felt like a win or vindication for SD sports. Lol no. Xolos is not a San Diego team. I have to disagree. Just because you have thousands of people originally from Tijuana living in SD, and go down there for games, doesn't make xolos relevant in the SD sports team world. I applaud his enthusiasm though. And he is not bad a commentator imo. Better than some already "established" guys on Spanish tv..like shit Univision commentators.
     
  10. Chiquitibum

    Chiquitibum Member+

    Apr 4, 2004
    Norte
    Club:
    Pumas UNAM
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    How come the xolo mascot was at a SD event strutting his stuff?


     
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  11. LGRod

    LGRod Member+

    Mexico
    Aug 14, 2010
    Listenin to Los Bookies
    Club:
    Club Tijuana
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    con dinero baila el perro. :D
     
  12. metalmaster

    metalmaster Member+

    Jul 7, 2004
    In the wrong hood
    Club:
    Hakoah Maccabi Ramat Gan
    [​IMG]
    Yeah, that made the news all over town...................NOT
     
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  13. El Pipiripau

    El Pipiripau Member+

    Jul 10, 2006
    Escondido!!!
    Club:
    Club Santos Laguna
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    I had trouble believing that also but 8000 crossing over the border for every game is a ton. I had no idea it was that much.

    I do remember SD sports covering it so it is considered local news. Can SD claim it as their title also....I'm not sure. My snobby ass rejected the notion of OC teams being part of LA.
     
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  14. Chiquitibum

    Chiquitibum Member+

    Apr 4, 2004
    Norte
    Club:
    Pumas UNAM
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    What do you think about my arguments about English broadcasting

    1. That it is not as exciting and spanish is preferred.

    2. That only pochos who dont speak Spanish may be interested, but if a pocho doesnt speak spanish, high percentage is he doesnt even like Soccer.

    Amirite on #2?
     
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  15. Piedraias

    Piedraias Member+

    Feb 27, 2005
    Califas
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    very few people care about soccer in SD.
    yes you're right on 2.
     
  16. El Pipiripau

    El Pipiripau Member+

    Jul 10, 2006
    Escondido!!!
    Club:
    Club Santos Laguna
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    You seem caught up in the numbers. Yes you're right on your 2nd point. I don't think they're expecting to double their viewership though, just bring in more, however small that may be.
     
  17. Chiquitibum

    Chiquitibum Member+

    Apr 4, 2004
    Norte
    Club:
    Pumas UNAM
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    cool, someone agrees with me. lol

    alrighty then. This is what I was saying. Only rare cases of cultural adoption from parents/relatives can ensure non spanish speaking pochos embrace soccer.

    I fall into a category of a super rare case. I grew up not watching soccer with dad or speaking spanihs. I grew up in non mexican area. My dad did have me play soccer, so I grew up doing that and when high schooll came around i had Roberto Baggio and Marco Van Basten posters on my wall., then until 2000 did I watch Mexican soccer.

    Most pochos who cant speak spanish will be listening to rap, playing basketball on the park calling eachother the N word.
     
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  18. Serg33

    Serg33 Member+

    Jul 11, 2007
    Didn't telemundo broadcast liga mx games in English on Mun2?
     
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  19. metalmaster

    metalmaster Member+

    Jul 7, 2004
    In the wrong hood
    Club:
    Hakoah Maccabi Ramat Gan
    Your are. I've said the same in not so many words in another thread.
     
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  20. SGuerrilla

    SGuerrilla Member+

    Sep 8, 2014
    en la cueva
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    @Baysic te hablan
     
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  21. metalmaster

    metalmaster Member+

    Jul 7, 2004
    In the wrong hood
    Club:
    Hakoah Maccabi Ramat Gan
    #1046 metalmaster, Feb 16, 2017
    Last edited: Feb 16, 2017
    I've seen snippets of coverage in local news outlets, but for the most part Xolos is pretty much ignored in the San Diego market. So I find hard to believe that them winning the championship had any effect on the local professional sports scene. I do agree that 8 thousand people crossing to see the game is a lot, but where is this number coming from?. You would see reports of increase traffic at the border on game days,. I've never heard of that.
    Now, I'm sure there are events here and there where they invite Xolo players to some Mexican grocery market or something like that. Like @Chiquitibum's xolo mascot sighting and such..But even that hardly heard off.

    There was a Xolos vs Atlas game at Mesa College not long ago..did you even hear about it?
     
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  22. chiva_guero

    chiva_guero BigSoccer Supporter

    Jun 4, 2007
    Mexico NSR
    People come from OC to see their team play Xolos - Americanistas, Chivistas, etc.

    So, the number crossing isn't even all San Diegans.

    Xolos can try to make it an SD thing and they should, really ... BUT, it's soccer.

    No one in the mainstream of US Sports takes it seriously.
     
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  23. Chiquitibum

    Chiquitibum Member+

    Apr 4, 2004
    Norte
    Club:
    Pumas UNAM
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    I think that was what Nate was saying. When Xolos plays Wilas or Chivas, ppl will travel from SD or LA.

    He says Liga games sell out the stadium, CopaMX not so much. Some Mesa College game isnt gonna grab jack for attendance.
     
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  24. metalmaster

    metalmaster Member+

    Jul 7, 2004
    In the wrong hood
    Club:
    Hakoah Maccabi Ramat Gan
    That's even worse when supporting the argument about Xolos being a SD team. They are nit even crossing to see Xolos play. LOL

    Nah, there are some Xolos supporters living in San Diego, but Xolos ain't relevant in SD,
     
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  25. Sanchito

    Sanchito Member+

    Jul 15, 2005
    an island in my mind
    It's a well used move in tech...you don't have to win over every customer...let's say you attract/keep pochos or non mexican fans that can now follow along and be fed a story in English because you're now providing that service, you're able to not only retain an at risk audience but you can also seed and generate a new revenue stream in a very passive way...not by building a team from scratch or by engaging in expensive marketing you do it by streaming to a platform that can reach billions and in a language that is spoken by many people throughout the world...that keeps the MLS on it's heels because it can poach potential MLS fans and assure LigaMX fans introduced to the product either through family or friends stay with the product...this isn't done to kill the MLS it's done to strengthen one's position and not let viewers who don't speak Spanish leave the platform and go to another where content is delivered in English.

    This is similar to what Instagram has done with their snapchat like features...they're not trying to compete with snapchat, they simply don't want people leaving their platform and disengaging.
     
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