The Doping Thread

Discussion in 'Cycling' started by Dead Fingers, Apr 9, 2009.

  1. TitoTata

    TitoTata Member+

    Jun 26, 2014
  2. aveslacker

    aveslacker Member+

    Ajax
    United States
    Apr 2, 2006
    Old Madras
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Weird, huh? :whistling:
     
  3. cr7torossi

    cr7torossi Member+

    May 10, 2007
    Brits don't cheat.
     
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  4. Dead Fingers

    Dead Fingers Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jan 22, 2004
    St. Paul, Minnesota
    Club:
    Minnesota United FC
  5. aveslacker

    aveslacker Member+

    Ajax
    United States
    Apr 2, 2006
    Old Madras
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  6. aveslacker

    aveslacker Member+

    Ajax
    United States
    Apr 2, 2006
    Old Madras
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  7. PuckVanHeel

    PuckVanHeel BigSoccer Yellow Card

    Oct 4, 2011
    Club:
    Feyenoord
    The two biggest frauds in history contested the ice hockey gold... Irony.

    942488793453494273 is not a valid tweet id
     
  8. TitoTata

    TitoTata Member+

    Jun 26, 2014
    Still wondering why the shamed gold medalist Curljng champion felt he had to take drugs / steroids or whatever to help with his CURLING !?!?
     
  9. JasonMa

    JasonMa Member+

    Mar 20, 2000
    Arvada, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Bronze, not gold, and probably to speed recovery. When you're playing 9-10 matches in less than a week that can be a real effort, surprising as it might be to some.
     
  10. TitoTata

    TitoTata Member+

    Jun 26, 2014
    Wow ... recover from bending down and pushing a kettle a few feet [emoji4]


    They should mould a special Titanium medal for being a complete NUMPTY :)
     
  11. JasonMa

    JasonMa Member+

    Mar 20, 2000
    Arvada, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Or a 40 lb rock 150 ft 20 times a game, plus all the brushing... ;)
     
  12. TitoTata

    TitoTata Member+

    Jun 26, 2014
    He doesn't do the pushing ...

    Don't get me started on the pushing aspect ...

    Why don't they just slide a bit but have to release the 'thing' before a line THEN just judge who's the closest ... there is no need for ANY brushing .
     
  13. JasonMa

    JasonMa Member+

    Mar 20, 2000
    Arvada, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    All members of the team push. In mixed doubles one throws the first and fifth stone and one throws the second, third, and fourth stone. And they can switch responsibilities of which stone between ends. So in 8 ends on average each one throws 20 stones. (In full team curling each one throws 2 stones an end for 10 ends, also 20 stones).

    The brushing can "guide" the rock and lengthen the throw, if necessary. Getting rid of it just because would be like asking why there are three stumps in a wicket in cricket and reducing it to two. That's just how the sport is played.
     
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  14. TitoTata

    TitoTata Member+

    Jun 26, 2014
    Well thanks for the info !!

    I'm wiser now that's for sure ..

    Still don't see why they have to brush though ... maybe they should let the crown green bowlers have a leaf blower each to alter the route of their shots ...
     
  15. TitoTata

    TitoTata Member+

    Jun 26, 2014
    Canelo Alvarez has tested positive for a banned substance - putting his huge rematch with Gennady Golovkin at risk.

    Alvarez was tested ahead of the May 5 fight with results showing he had trace levels of Clenbuterol.


    The substance is often uses by athletes to cut body fat while retaining muscle mass during training for big events.

    It is banned by every major anti-doping board.
     
  16. aveslacker

    aveslacker Member+

    Ajax
    United States
    Apr 2, 2006
    Old Madras
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That's what Bert got popped for a few years back.

    Also, lots of shade being thrown at Wiggins, Froome and Team Sky these days.

    Can't say I'm surprised.
     
  17. PuckVanHeel

    PuckVanHeel BigSoccer Yellow Card

    Oct 4, 2011
    Club:
    Feyenoord
    Please check that welsh weirdo Thomas. At the age of 32 the new mutant.

    Sadly, with money you can buy everything. Including UCI.
     
  18. TitoTata

    TitoTata Member+

    Jun 26, 2014
    As regards possible dopers ..

    Any thoughts on :-

    CRonaldo ( Juventus)

    Rafa Nadal
    Novac Djokvic

    Mo Farah
     
  19. PuckVanHeel

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    Oct 4, 2011
    Club:
    Feyenoord
    Mo Farah by far the most suspect.
     
  20. TitoTata

    TitoTata Member+

    Jun 26, 2014
    He worries me greatly ... that's disregarding his long term coach who's know as one of THE worst coaches for encouraging drug use ..
     
  21. The Potter

    The Potter Member+

    Aug 26, 2004
    England
    Club:
    Stoke City FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    I remember watching the Wimbledon final and Djokovic was amazing and the commentators were attributing it to his glutten free diet and unless he's got celiac disease or something like that it's just a load of bollocks and the BBC are happy to lie to the people rather than just be honest. I've not watched tennis since.
     
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  22. TitoTata

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    Jun 26, 2014
    I'm just amazed all the other players and other elite athletes haven't gone gluten free :)
     
  23. PuckVanHeel

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    Oct 4, 2011
    Club:
    Feyenoord
    Djokovic certainly evolved from an injury prone and often out-gassed athlete into Terminator. He was however always a great talent, also during his entire teenager years.

    Nadal made a sudden transformation between the ages of 16 to 18.

    Imho, Mo Farah is by a distance the most dubious of the list. This nails it for Gerraint Thomas:

    "I find it most suspicious that Thomas suddenly steps up when Froomes participation and form was in doubt (after contesting the Giro). An extra rider needed to be prepped. Thomas was decent in the mountains and is an allround talent but suddenly is superior for an entire Tour compared to any single day in previous Tours."

    Sky = poison for many sports
     
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  24. PuckVanHeel

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    Oct 4, 2011
    Club:
    Feyenoord
    Mo Farah raises all the red flags. He ticks all boxes, including the wheeling and dealing behind the scenes.

    On Froome. The USADA boss said: "The question is whether justice was truly served or did a star get an undeserved break"
    https://www.bbc.com/sport/cycling/44924435

    If he poses the question, then he's already answering it, and has had previous experience...
     
  25. Moishe

    Moishe Moderator
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    Boca Juniors
    Argentina
    Mar 6, 2005
    Here there and everywhere.
    Club:
    CA Boca Juniors
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Regarding Froome, Thomas, Sky and the whole pro-peloton for that matter. I've long given up hope that they're clean. I was pretty surprised that Thomas rode as well as he did. As a TT rider he was always strong with his track background but as a climber, riding tempo upfront for Froome wasn't my issue it is how all of a sudden after all those years he had the ability to ride away in attack or bridge gaps like they were on the flats. The reality is that looking at the rest of the peloton and top20 riders, I would be hard pressed to point to one rider and say he was definitively clean.

    Lance Armstrong has been running a pretty good podcast of late and also did an interview that touched on his doping and how they managed to always come up clean in drug testing. He is very forthright and honest...a far cry from when the allegations went full bore. Worth taking a listen, I believe it is on freakonomics.
     

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