The Cerezo Osaka Thread

Discussion in 'Japanese Club Football' started by nipponbasse83, Jun 17, 2007.

  1. SamuraiBlue2002

    SamuraiBlue2002 Member+

    Dec 20, 2008
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    Cerezo could be a huge club and brand in Japan if they didn't suck on the pitch. Their off the pitch activities are good, they have a good pr team. But it doesn't mean much if your team sucks.
     
  2. Gordon1995

    Gordon1995 Member+

    Oct 3, 2013
    Amazing the difference between a good coach and a bad coach. Thought that a team with good players can override the disadvantage of a bad coach like Barcelona did last season. Seems like not every club is able to do the same.
     
  3. Saku²

    Saku² Member+

    Aug 22, 2009
    Club:
    FC Salzburg
    Tata Martino is a bad coach, yeah ...
     
  4. Gordon1995

    Gordon1995 Member+

    Oct 3, 2013
    But Barcelona did not do bad last season.
     
  5. Saku²

    Saku² Member+

    Aug 22, 2009
    Club:
    FC Salzburg
    It was irony. Martino is a good coach.
     
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  6. GunnerTNB

    GunnerTNB Member+

    Apr 4, 2011
    São Paulo
    Club:
    Botafogo Rio Janeiro
  7. Radu Razvan

    Radu Razvan Member+

    Mar 1, 2013
    Bucharest, Romania
    Club:
    AS Roma
    Nat'l Team:
    Romania
    Intersting. Cerezo didn't showed a bad attacking display in the games vs Frontale. But this change was expected before that.
     
  8. Gordon1995

    Gordon1995 Member+

    Oct 3, 2013
  9. Lupin III

    Lupin III Member+

    Mar 17, 2011
    Denmark
    Club:
    Brøndby IF
    Nat'l Team:
    Denmark
    How many matches did he manage?
     
  10. Radu Razvan

    Radu Razvan Member+

    Mar 1, 2013
    Bucharest, Romania
    Club:
    AS Roma
    Nat'l Team:
    Romania
    After the WC break, 13 matches.

    CRZ Tweets ‏@crz_tweets 9h
    Yuji Okuma, a former Kashiwa player and younger brother of Kiyoshi Okuma, used to be the head coach of the first team in 2005 and 2006.

    Yuji it's the brother of freshly sacked Kiyoshi, former manager of Ardija.
     
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  11. naopon

    naopon Member+

    Jan 2, 2007
    California
    Club:
    Kawasaki Frontale
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    OK, now Aria has acute appendicitis and will be out for a week. When it rains, it pours...
     
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  12. Gordon1995

    Gordon1995 Member+

    Oct 3, 2013
    So they finally win a match. How you guys think about the new coach, is he better than previous two?
     
  13. GunnerTNB

    GunnerTNB Member+

    Apr 4, 2011
    São Paulo
    Club:
    Botafogo Rio Janeiro
    He won two matches with Ryo Nagai and Sugimoto upfront, no Forlán or Cacau. The team got better without the "stars" :p
     
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  14. naopon

    naopon Member+

    Jan 2, 2007
    California
    Club:
    Kawasaki Frontale
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yamaguchi needs knee surgery which will keep him out 2-4 months. In the worst case scenario he'll miss the remainder of the season and even the Asian Cup.
     
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  15. Radu Razvan

    Radu Razvan Member+

    Mar 1, 2013
    Bucharest, Romania
    Club:
    AS Roma
    Nat'l Team:
    Romania
    What a pity.
     
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  16. KiarashM

    KiarashM Member+

    Mar 2, 2014
    Club:
    Perspolis
    Nat'l Team:
    Iran
    Cerezo won 1-0 against Urawa


    Faith in Cerezo (partly) restored.
     
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  17. Lupin III

    Lupin III Member+

    Mar 17, 2011
    Denmark
    Club:
    Brøndby IF
    Nat'l Team:
    Denmark
    Yep winning over the actual leaders of the table :thumbsup:
     
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  18. KiarashM

    KiarashM Member+

    Mar 2, 2014
    Club:
    Perspolis
    Nat'l Team:
    Iran
    Btw

    I knew Cerezo would do better under a domestic coach. Sometimes for few clubs, foreign coaches just don't work especially in J-League. I hope Okuma can help them out of the relegation zone, speaking in terms of quality they don't deserve to be at the bottom of the table let alone J2. Thats on paper, reality is a different story though..
     
  19. Lupin III

    Lupin III Member+

    Mar 17, 2011
    Denmark
    Club:
    Brøndby IF
    Nat'l Team:
    Denmark
    I do agree the reality is japan does not need foreign coaches as in old times. I think many semi-followers really hasnt realized how much the game has chnged since 1991 were Japan could do nothing.
     
  20. KiarashM

    KiarashM Member+

    Mar 2, 2014
    Club:
    Perspolis
    Nat'l Team:
    Iran
    I started following J-League since few months so I can not judge on that, but I think lack of knowledge and language barriers which most foreign coaches have in Japan may haunt them to show their coaching potential. 2 foreign coaches both failed at Cerezo in a short span speaks volume about what I said.
     
  21. nipponbasse83

    nipponbasse83 Member+

    Jun 17, 2007
    Ichikawa, Chiba, Japan
    Club:
    Consadole Sapporo
    Nat'l Team:
    Norway
    And yet, there is only 2 Japanese managers who have won the league since the 1-stage season was introduced in 2005.

    2005 Japanese
    2006 German
    2007 Brazilian
    2008 Brazilian
    2009 Brazilian
    2010 Serbian
    2011 Brazilian
    2012 Japanese
    2013 Japanese
     
  22. Saku²

    Saku² Member+

    Aug 22, 2009
    Club:
    FC Salzburg
    If the best teams are given to foreigners ... But I agree that there is no issue whatsoever with foreign coaches, as for the japanese ones, it all comes down to the quality.
     
  23. Lupin III

    Lupin III Member+

    Mar 17, 2011
    Denmark
    Club:
    Brøndby IF
    Nat'l Team:
    Denmark
    Well actually interpreters are an issue.
     
  24. roxbury

    roxbury Member+

    Apr 27, 2004
    Agreed.

    PS;

    This weekend match up will be interesting one. A open game to me. Both team can win the game…

    S Pulse vs Cerezo Osaka.

    Relegation zone battle .


    Cerezo could grap 3 golden points in this away game. I don't see any home advance for S Pulse in this season. They struggle many ways.

    If Cerezo win the game ,no shocker to me.

    If S Pulse win the game,..its up to their defense and midfield performance mostly… Omae,Novakovic scored in the recent games,.and midfielder Honda support upfront too,.in a score department. Speaking of score, His goal were pure class in the last weekend match.

    Midfield must focus and stay strong physical match up at the middle battle.
    Defense line players must stay compact and sharp shape at the dead ball sets,.. and must be react fast at opposite players shooting treats. All in all; S Pulse hard to finish any single game zero goal against… They must fix this big errors at the team defensive works sets.

    Cerezo's Cacau scored pure beauty vs Urawa. This could boost his morale… We can see another long range beauty goal in this weekend match.


    Injury free, good fair play game for both team I hope.


    Regards,
     
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