The Catch All CBA (Collective Bargaining Agreement) Thread

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  1. j66j66

    j66j66 Member

    Apr 26, 2005
    Portland, OR
    Club:
    Portland Timbers
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    i shudder to think who is John Boehner and Mitch McConnell in that analogy....
     
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  2. soccermilitant

    soccermilitant Member+

    Jan 14, 2009
    St.paul
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    well who is the biggest crybaby?
     
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  3. zman31

    zman31 Member+

    May 5, 1999
    Columbus, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Not quite. If you came in to the league at 20, you'd be a free agent at 26 (age + 6 years of service =32).

    I like this idea, and my thought was that a player could enter free agency after completing 2 contracts. Standard contracts tend to be 3 years in this league. Get all the way through 6 years of that and you're a FA.
     
  4. Fighting Illini

    Fighting Illini Member+

    Feb 6, 2014
    Chicago
    Starting at center back for the Earthquakes: [​IMG]
     
  5. Baysider

    Baysider Member+

    Jul 16, 2004
    Santa Monica
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Don't know how to interpret that as a business model though. We can't get there. Despite that, people currently have delusions that we can and they need to believe that to buy tickets. In that case, the Don should just keep telling people what they want to hear but not spend the money to try to get there. You may have something!
     
  6. usernamefriendly

    Jul 12, 2008
    Bronx, NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Always been the best plan to me or at least the fairest. 27/7 still leaves a lot to be desired if you you start at 18.
     
  7. JasonMa

    JasonMa Member+

    Mar 20, 2000
    Arvada, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    So the 26 year old star can come into the league and play 1 season and become a free agent while the 25 year old draftee still has to go two more seasons?

    It can't be OR as that makes everyone over the age a free agent by default. Understandably at this point the owners want to retain some of the current system.

    The suggested age + years of service = some set number (32-34 seems reasonable) would be the best option IMO.
     
  8. Fighting Illini

    Fighting Illini Member+

    Feb 6, 2014
    Chicago
    Nonsense. I'm not super optimistic that we WILL, but we certainly CAN.
     
  9. scheck

    scheck Member

    Mar 13, 2007
    Denver
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Right, which means the young signees get free agency earlier, but it's still not available to everyone. For the college players who sign at 23 it would mean they become a free agent after 5 years at 28. for someone who signs at 16, they would get it at 24. For anyone over 32 they get to negotiate one last contract.
     
  10. j66j66

    j66j66 Member

    Apr 26, 2005
    Portland, OR
    Club:
    Portland Timbers
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Dude, I'd be pretty scared of a Feinstein/Pelosi CB duo.
     
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  11. deuteronomy

    deuteronomy Member+

    Angkor Siem Reap FC
    United States
    Aug 12, 2008
    at the pitch
    Club:
    Siem Reap Angkor FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Bahahahaha



    [​IMG]
     
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  12. onefineesq

    onefineesq Member+

    Sep 16, 2003
    Laurel, MD
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Maurice Edu looks tiny in that picture.
     
  13. scheck

    scheck Member

    Mar 13, 2007
    Denver
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Word has it that Chris Christie is a hell of a goalkeeper...[​IMG]
     
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  14. the5timechamp

    the5timechamp Member+

    Nov 3, 2012
    Surprised nobody made use of the new logo to feature MLS up top with an outline of players with Picket signs in the lower area..

    I hate MLS!! My country my league since the beginning, I want the bastard to succeed no matter how much it trips over itself..
     
  15. Baysider

    Baysider Member+

    Jul 16, 2004
    Santa Monica
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    For me, it's hard to see a path. MLS needs to make substantial improvements in television revenue and the EPL and the Champions League seem set to dominate in the US market. In Europe, the gap between the top european teams and the EPL and the bottom teams seem to be growing.

    Of course, it all depends on what metric you use. At some point, the worst team in MLS might have better financials than the worst team in Italy or Spain, but at the top end, and I think it's the top for driving television revenue in the US, the gap is just so far.
     
  16. Fighting Illini

    Fighting Illini Member+

    Feb 6, 2014
    Chicago
    That's all fine, the point is, both setting and making concrete, if slow, progress towards the goal of competing at that level is central to the narrative MLS sells to the American soccer consumer.

    Changing that to "We're the minor leagues and we like it that way!" would be the end. That's not what a large chunk of the support signed up for.
     
  17. Allez RSL

    Allez RSL Member+

    Jun 20, 2007
    Home
    The kid's been on the league since he was eight. Don't you think he deserves free agency?! For crying out loud, you're worse than commie-Nazi slaveowners.
     
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  18. Fanatical Monk

    Fanatical Monk Member+

    Jun 14, 2011
    Fantasyland
    Both right? Is this a trick question?
     
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  19. Revolt

    Revolt Member+

    Jun 16, 1999
    Davis, CA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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    Follow[​IMG]Tom Veit‏@TomVeitTheGM
    Reliable sources inside MLS tell me as of now they will play this weekend no labor stoppage for opening weekend.
     
  20. Mucky

    Mucky Member+

    Mar 30, 2009
    Manchester England
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Not sure if that is sarcasm or not but obviously that was my point - it would be a little harsh if thatw ere the way it worked.
     
  21. LordRobin

    LordRobin Member+

    Sep 1, 2006
    Akron, OH
    Club:
    Cleveland C. S.
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Reddit has sent flowers to both sides in hope of inspiring a deal. No, seriously. Just gotta get those negative vibes out of the air.

    ------RM
     
  22. Mucky

    Mucky Member+

    Mar 30, 2009
    Manchester England
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Is this guy a good source?
    Great news if he is.
     
  23. ThreeApples

    ThreeApples Member+

    Jul 28, 1999
    Smurf Village
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    No 20-year-old is going to have been in the league very long, so they aren't going to get free agency under any proposal. The 28/8 or 27/7 ideas are about getting free agency for players who have been through at least a couple of contracts.
     
  24. Allez RSL

    Allez RSL Member+

    Jun 20, 2007
    Home
    It was sarcasm.

    But the fact that it's impossible for a 20-year-old to be a free agent shouldn't be surprising. The league isn't just going to open up free agency to everyone.
     
  25. Fanatical Monk

    Fanatical Monk Member+

    Jun 14, 2011
    Fantasyland
    I'm not sure those eyes even close anymore. Crazy ass crooked #$%&#$#.
     
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