The Browns name got to stay... Austin Aztex for the next team?

We heard you in all the other threads you posted in. Give it a rest.

As to your actual question, I see no reason to keep the Aztex name. It's pretty silly IMHO.

 

I think the aztex name was wrong on many levels.

 

I actually like the name Aztex.

 

You really are something else. The Fans in Austin just got taken for a ride by someone that used them and their faith in the Club then left them in the dust for supposed greener pastures. You come along and commence with your stick about how they, the Fans can operate a team there. Did you tell them yet they have to pay your little Expansion fee, League fee, Player Fee and lest I forget Referee Fees per game? Have a deadline to submit your Application by say Halloween or so or do you simply just not care that they may have a bit of a grieving and venting process to go and work through right now?

Spare me the "there are doers" rhetoric as your posts here the last few days confirms that you could not give a shit less about the fans and people in Austin and just want to get some of the money pie for yourself.


Sorry Austin folks, I apologize if this is out of line on your forum.

 

Pretty simple: Austin Fans are going through some emotional issues because the Club that they supported was taken away from them with little to no warning. Hardest hit are the ones that invested the most in that club, be it money, volunteer hours, passion etc.
Along comes an opportunist that shows up in or creates new threads wanting to hear from them about buying into his league which given the circumstances displays a lack of tact, respect or just plain ignorance for their current situation IMHO. So my deal is with you, not your team, league or players which is something you brought into this conversation.

 

Stephen - I think its the timing of your posts that are at issue here. You need to give the Austin folks some time to breathe. They are bleeding right now.

I think we all can appreciate your passion for the game and your desire to add another option for new teams in the area.

But please, give it a rest for awhile. Now is not the time and this is not the correct forum to have such a discussion. Not yet.

My .02.

 

put it another way. his posts & esp his timing are likely to make people that would look at his league as an alternative just walk away.

Deal with the SPSL = deal with Stephen Heisler = don't deal with SPSL

 

It's exactly the same as talking to a guy that was dumped by his girlfriend because "he's too poor" and you show up the next day with a ugly/fat friend saying:

"I found you the perfect replacement, she won't leave you because you are poor, she's fine with romantic dinners at McDonalds, and doesn't celebrate birthdays or Christmas........ come on man, why aren't you excited???"

 

Which one are you?
The ugly/fat friend?

 

I don't know that it's so absurd. I for one have thought about this as a possibility for Minnesota moving forward a number of times (though not SPSL). If not for the history of MN folks not showing up for NPSL, I still think it could make a go in either NPSL or USL. Probably not next season, but if you're dedicated to soccer, this is an avenue that works elsewhere, and it might be worth a shot.

The fees you talk about are actually not exorbitant, and when spread across 1,000 to 2,000 people, it might actually be doable. Throw a few good sponsors from the chamber of commerce in there, and you might even make a go as a supporter owned team.

EDIT: But as I said in my post, it's probably a better idea to go with NPSL or PDL (though PDL is more pricey). This guy may be trying to make a buck, but the idea isn't a bad one.

 

Well gee, thanks

I'm not a true champion of anything, just trying to point out that your timing is cruel, arguably self-absorbed and definitely counter-productive - for you.

Put it this way (and riffing off Danil-11), Aztex fan falls in love with a great girl; cute, smart, outgoing who was opening his horizons and getting him to dream of a happy ever after. She wasn't a supermodel or Hollywood star, but she was lovely and he was a family guy who never thought he was in that kind of league anyway. Now she's run off with a real estate agent to condoland and he's devastated. Offering him a hot date with Claudia Schiffer isn't going to cut it & will only give you grief and his lasting hostility.

In footballing terms, you could be offering the Aztex fans an MLS franchise with the second coming of Pele as DP, Rinus Michels coaching and Michael Dell picking up the tab, and they'd tell you to get lost. If you really want to get their attention, wait a couple of weeks while you work the back channels in the mid-sized business sector & soccer scene in Austin to see if there are any sufficiently steamed by Rawlins' behaviour to get involved. About Nov. 20th ask to meet the fans privately in small groups and see if they're willing to try again.

I don't know enough about your league (BTW, are you planing to get back with NPSL if the Tulsa situation gets sorted out, or is SPSL going to stand alone indefinitely?) and I'm sure you have faith in it, but if you want to offer Austin fans something, the first thing to do is wait a decent interval before approaching them.

 

Hi everyone,

I appreciate the concern, but I don't feel Stephen is out of line, here.

SPSL may be our best option, at least for a while.

 

I was wrong to dismiss you in my previous post, Stephen. Thanks for keeping level head; it's a credit to you and what you're trying to get done.

I remain convinced that D4 may be the best option for the Aztex at least for a year or two. If it keeps some semblance of the team alive, go for it.

My MN Thunder went under in the off season last year, but their PDL team kept the name. I still check their stats and development from abroad, hoping someday they'll be able to move back up, but this time more slowly and methodically.