Super-mods, feel free to edit the title so that it's grammatically correct and makes sense! I think we need a thread where we can talk about everything that doesn't fit in one of the existing threads and can discuss interesting articles as well. I just found this report and think it's pretty neat: Ze German Fussball Experience
Just found another one, even though it is in German: http://www.spiegel.de/sport/fussball/0,1518,483410,00.html Maybe it will be posted in Spiegel international as well, I'll post it then. in general it is about English people who are fascinated by the Bundesliga, especially the connection between fans and the teams and players. It says that this makes it 'the best league in the world' and that people should, when they mourn about Germany's results in European competition, keep in mind that in order to change that a drastic increase in Ticket prices, a spilit up for pay TV and a less competitive league in itself would be the way to go an the results following that way.
Yep. Everytime I get depressed about the fact that Wigan will have more money available than let's say Stuttgart I go to the Arsenal board or to standupsitdown and I am cured. Man, do the old Arsenal fans hate their new stadium and atmosphere at the ground. That article the Spiegel is talking about is great but at the same time it maybe a little blatantly pro-Schalke. I mean, Schalke is popular but is Schalke more popular than Bayern? Not really on topic but I so loved this article: http://www.bremen4u.de/cityguide/sport_wellness/fussball/serie/zeigler/2007/101.jsp God, I hate some of the songs the Ultras sing, especially most Dauergesänge (neverending songs) and also "Hannover ninety six" (stupid melodie and why English?). The songs and creativity are definitly better in England. They are more spontaneous and they have lots of songs about different players which I like. Here all fans pretty much sing the same stuff. Years ago hardly anyone sang the Pippi-Song or did a Humba, now everyone is doing it. I dislike the most those songs that doesn't seem to support the team but rather the fans celebrating themselves.
Nice article. I had a great time last month at the Mönchengladbach - Hamburg match. They had the director in front of the HSV fans leading the way, pretty cool.
That isn't that hard. At the same time, nobody in the Ruhr area like Schalke, and they have long-standing rivalries with HSV, Hertha and Bremen as well. And many people don't like Bayern, but don't really hate them... just think of them as boring and arrogant, not passionate enough to be hated. Now Schalke is a totally different story.
Great idea! Not sure, whether these have been posted somewhere before: Two recent articles from The Guardian's sport blog: http://blogs.guardian.co.uk/sport/2007/05/13/145000_see_german_newcastle_bl.html http://blogs.guardian.co.uk/sport/2007/05/14/stuttgart_reach_for_the_title.html Edit: Sorry, Fräulein has posted the first one already. This one comes with comments though.
Bigsoccer? I think that most German football forums focussing on the whole of German football (or the whole Bundesliga) tend to lack in depth. Usually the official forums of each club tned to be good, but also a lot of fanforums have a good level. There is no good place I know where Germans debate about the Bundesliga alltogether.
Yeah, that's why I'm here. Transfermarkt is not bad but has a lot of posters I consider arrogant and full of themselves. It's very matter-of-fact and I don't think I ever saw one attempt at humour in there. Foros.de is not bad but I get the impression that most posters are <15 years old. I really liked the stadionwelt forums even though they were limited to talk about stadiums. Some really knowledgable posters in there. The others basically consists of endless flame-wars. If there are decent ones out there with a fair amount of posters please someone post them because I don't know any.
Erm..We are a Rühr club and you will have to look really hard to find anything but Schalkefans in certain areas. But as the article goes it´s a bit overdone..SPORT&MARKT that keeps track of fanbases for TV-commercials have in their latest list Schalke at third place when we look at fanbases (which includes passive fans as well). Dortmund have a slight edge to us but Bayern is bigger than both S04 and BvB together...Must be an amazing number of TV-fans they got
That’s what I basically thought as well, just wanted to check around. It does seem weird that the best general german football forum is in English. There are probably a lot of pretty good club specific forums , but I’m not going to go through all of them. HSV’s forum is very good I think. Yeah, I think I remember going there I few years ago, was dead serious.
Well what does the guy expect? The DFL is working hard to throw out as many of the creative Fans as possible... Just look at the Videos of our U23 support where many of the Stadionverbotler are going... The repertoire of songs they have is nothing short of awesome! Its true tough that many german Ultra-groups are extremely wack... Many of them really need to look up what Ultra-mentality actually means.
I haven't really checked it out, but I could imagine that the message board at 11Freunde.de would be a little different due to the more high brow nature of the publication. http://www.11freunde.de/forum
i only know www.fussball-foren.net/ but i have no experiences with this forum so i can't say whether its good or not
The thing is that the major German clubs got fanbases bigger than many countries..It would take an enormous Forum to cater for more than one of them. I guess it´s the same in the other big leagues?
I'm just full of prejudices, that's why I think it's a magazine for guys who wear strange glasses and listen to modern Britisch "rock" bands and stuff like this and therefore refuse to read it .
Well, I don't wear strange glasses or listen to the music you mention, but, yeah, the people who run the mag do have a love affair with many things English/British and that can be annoying.