The Arsenal v. Manchester City

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  1. mebeSajid

    mebeSajid Member+

    Feb 16, 2009
    Atlanta, GA
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    I agree with you, but I'm also wondering what changes when Xhaka plays deeper. I think the biggest issue we have is that we don't have a consistent partner for him, regardless of formation. It clearly shouldn't be Coquelin, but a structure of Ramsey, Xhaka, and Ozil should work (or would if Ramsey's defensive work this season hadn't fallen off a cliff).
     
  2. DaPrince84

    DaPrince84 Member+

    Aug 22, 2001
    MD
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    im still of hte mind that we need to go 3 in CM and make Ozil a forward.
     
  3. GunnerJacket

    GunnerJacket Moderator
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    Sep 18, 2003
    Gainesville, GA
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    They made a conscious effort to feature the gold and choose a red that's not as bright as UGa. But, yeah, it ain't easy.
     
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  4. Super Llama

    Super Llama Member+

    May 21, 2006
    Seattle
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    That's kinda what we did when he was first here though right? When he was playing on the left?
     
  5. mebeSajid

    mebeSajid Member+

    Feb 16, 2009
    Atlanta, GA
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    The Ted speaketh:

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  6. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
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    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
    Fascist Hellscape
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    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nat'l Team:
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    It's the same old issue that Arsenal don't have a single decent 8, let alone two of them

    So it always comes back to the issue of not having 6+6 or 6+8 combo

    So then you end up playing Ozil left because you need to fit in 2 relatively ordinary midfielders

    e.g Ox + Ramsey :ROFLMAO:
     
  7. DaPrince84

    DaPrince84 Member+

    Aug 22, 2001
    MD
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    we were playing a 4231 when Ozil first arrived.

    We tried 433 but Wenger used Jack as a 10.

    I want to give Ozil to be Ozil without jeopardizing our defense. Have him on the right.
     
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  8. Super Llama

    Super Llama Member+

    May 21, 2006
    Seattle
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    What's your ideal 4-3-3 with players we have right now? Injuries notwithstanding
     
  9. mebeSajid

    mebeSajid Member+

    Feb 16, 2009
    Atlanta, GA
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Is Ozil the massive defensive liability we assume he is? We don't have the personnel to play a 4-3-3 because of the midfield.

    Scratch that, we don't have a functioning midfield. Xhaka will get better after a full pre-season that's not after an international tournament (hope this is also true for Mustafi). But I don't think I've ever come into a season and been this . . . disappointed. This team needs major surgery, and we thought before the season the title was realistic.
     
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  10. Super Llama

    Super Llama Member+

    May 21, 2006
    Seattle
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    I know we have a lot of stats that show that Ozil runs more than most outfield players--but I wonder how much of that is out of possession. Based on me watching him, he doesn't pose much of a problem to other teams if they want to flood our central midfield.
     
  11. bandwagongooner

    bandwagongooner Member+

    Dec 9, 2006
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Carrick was a ********ing monster. One of the most underrated players of this century.
     
  12. NorthBank

    NorthBank Member+

    Arsenal; NYRB
    United States
    Mar 29, 2006
    Connecticut
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Not that I'm going be around tomorrow to watch it, but no matchday thread for West Ham @mebeSajid??
     
  13. DaPrince84

    DaPrince84 Member+

    Aug 22, 2001
    MD
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    we dont have it

    we need two 8s
    he is a defensive liability in that Wenger asks him to do too much when we dont have teh ball. If you tell him to contain or defend a half space, he can do it and do it well.
     
  14. NorthBank

    NorthBank Member+

    Arsenal; NYRB
    United States
    Mar 29, 2006
    Connecticut
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

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