The All-Encompassing Pro/Rel Thread on Soccer in the USA

Discussion in 'Soccer in the USA' started by bigredfutbol, Mar 12, 2016.

  1. Elninho

    Elninho Member+

    Sacramento Republic FC
    United States
    Oct 30, 2000
    Sacramento, CA
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #24901 Elninho, Nov 27, 2019
    Last edited: Nov 27, 2019
    I suspect this comes down mostly to the popularity of the game. When soccer is the overwhelmingly dominant sport, even the third or fourth tier is likely to get more media attention than the top league for any other sport. As far as I can tell, League Two gets more attention in England than all of rugby or all of cricket.

    On the other hand, in the US, we have four (arguably five with soccer) major sports fighting for attention. By the time you've covered the top leagues in all the major sports, there isn't much airtime for anything else.

    You see the same tendency of a single sport to dominate media coverage in some parts of the US. When I was in high school in Houston in the late 90s, high school football got more coverage in the Houston Chronicle than even MLB or the NHL.
     
  2. In this new media age soccer in the USA shouldnot try to compete on the old platforms for attention, but create their own platform.
    Fake news had almost no chance in the old platforms of the media, so they created their own.
     
  3. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    England
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'd say Sheffield United, Leicester, Burnley and Union Berlin are over-performing. Bayern are having a terrible season and are still only 4 points off top spot.
     
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  4. An Unpaved Road

    An Unpaved Road Member+

    Mar 22, 2006
    Club:
    --other--
    I was extremely bored reading those standings until I got to the bottom three and Essence of the Sport kicked in. Norwich City is my new club.
     
  5. Crawleybus

    Crawleybus Member+

    Oct 18, 2013
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Yes thank God they have something to fight for or else it really would be dull for them!
     
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  6. Mmmm, you mean like in....mmmm.... a closed shop.....mmmm.
     
  7. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    England
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    They're only 5 points off the English Premier Cup playoffs.
     
  8. So you're saying they've TWO things to fight for:eek:
     
  9. bigredfutbol

    bigredfutbol Moderator
    Staff Member

    Sep 5, 2000
    Woodbridge, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Bremen get Paderborn this weekend; a chance to pull us a bit further above the drop.

    Scoring more goals than anyone outside the Top 6, but also being tied for the second-worst goals allowed total in the Bundesliga, is very much on-brand for Bremen.

    Man I wish we could've held on to Delaney a bit longer.
     
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  10. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    England
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #24911 Paul Berry, Dec 4, 2019
    Last edited by a moderator: Dec 6, 2019
    News from Tulsa.

    Tulsa Roughnecks are now FC Tulsa.
     
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  11. kenntomasch

    kenntomasch Member+

    Sep 2, 1999
    Out West
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    God, the conspiracy goes that deep, huh?
     
  12. kinznk

    kinznk Member

    Feb 11, 2007
    #24913 kinznk, Dec 5, 2019
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  13. kenntomasch

    kenntomasch Member+

    Sep 2, 1999
    Out West
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    No, just lazy.
     
  14. Expansion Franchise

    Chattanooga FC
    United States
    Apr 7, 2018
    They can still be called the Roughnecks.
     
  15. Darkwing McQuack

    Darkwing McQuack BigSoccer Supporter

    Nov 11, 2011
    Morrisville, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Nope. They wanted to appeal to the europoser so they’re just Tulsa now.
     
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  16. KCbus

    KCbus Moderator
    Staff Member

    United States
    Nov 26, 2000
    Reynoldsburg, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #24917 KCbus, Dec 5, 2019
    Last edited by a moderator: Dec 6, 2019
    How appropriate.
     
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  17. Oh, in response to that Guardian article with players quotes about the mls, here's a goodie:
     
  18. JasonMa

    JasonMa Member+

    Mar 20, 2000
    Arvada, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I partially agree with him. I was under the impression that MLS was shifting the schedule with the 2019 and 2020 seasons. They compressed the 2019 season in order to get the playoffs complete before the November FIFA dates. They couldn't start the 2019 season any earlier because of the CBA mandated time off between seasons. But by compressing the season and having MLS Cup in early November that would allow the season time off to start earlier, allowing the 2020 season to then start earlier and remove the compression we saw in 2019.

    Only the 2020 season is now only starting a day or two earlier. So, yeah, its odd to build that much of a break in this year. I don't know if this is a one off for some reason and we'll get back to the ~7 weeks between MLS Cup and camp opening we used to have in future years or if this is a permanent change.

    I do think his "Mickey Mouse" comments are a bit harsh though.
     
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  19. JasonMa

    JasonMa Member+

    Mar 20, 2000
    Arvada, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    So Macclesfield Town looks to join Bolton and Bury in the group of 'EFL teams unable to meet their fixture requirements without using youth team members' this weekend. 3 teams and w're not even at the midway point of the season.
     
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  20. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    England
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    ST prices have been slashed to work out at between $8 and $18 per match. I wonder how Tulsa Athletic will react. Maybe they can work together.
     
  21. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    England
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I think speculators are realizing that third and fourth tier clubs aren't worth the gamble. Why take on a ton of debt when you can pick up a non- league club for next to nothing and bankroll them into the Football League?
     
  22. Expansion Franchise

    Chattanooga FC
    United States
    Apr 7, 2018
     
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  23. Roger Allaway

    Roger Allaway Member+

    Apr 22, 2009
    Warminster, Pa.
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I was guessing that the reason behind the whole thing was to establish a schedule under which the 2022 playoffs would be over and done with before the start of that year's November-December World Cup.
     
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  24. Crawleybus

    Crawleybus Member+

    Oct 18, 2013
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    What difference does it make!? Why is it any time anybody names ANY club in ANY league you start harping on about 'bankrolling' lol. Perhaps you would be happier if the game was amateur worldwide? Maybe we should just have one Premier League containing 30'000 clubs and make sure also that everybody wins / nobody loses? The beauty of pro/rel is that for every loser there is also a winner (and visa versa), perhaps we can try banning relegation and have promotion only so that everyone wins? :-D
     

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