The All-Encompassing Pro/Rel Thread on Soccer in the USA

Discussion in 'Soccer in the USA' started by bigredfutbol, Mar 12, 2016.

  1. CrazyJ628

    CrazyJ628 Member+

    Jul 16, 2007
    The center of the Earth
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Don't make me pull out the list of EPL finishers again. The same 4-5 teams are always in contention. The same 10ish teams are nearly always going to be fighting to stay up. History has proven that. Just because a team is top three a month or so into the season is meaningless. We'll see if Wolves finish in the top 4 at the end of the year.

    It's about payroll. Top 6 in payroll = a good chance you'll finish in the top six in the EPL. https://www.spotrac.com/epl/payroll/2018/

    Of course you'll have billionaires who don't want to spend (Newcastle) but you get those in every league. But you know that.
     
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  2. Expansion Franchise

    Chattanooga FC
    United States
    Apr 7, 2018
    Why do you think Bury couldn't have happened in a closed league system?
     
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  3. Placid Casual

    Placid Casual Member+

    Apr 2, 2004
    Bentley's Roof
    I didn't realise Tommy Johnson, Marco Gabbiadini, Paul Kitson, Craig Short, Mark Pembridge amongst others were on that Derby team. Especially 10+ years after they spent a million+ on them
     
  4. Placid Casual

    Placid Casual Member+

    Apr 2, 2004
    Bentley's Roof
    What new owners at Leicester ?
    Missed that news
     
  5. CrazyJ628

    CrazyJ628 Member+

    Jul 16, 2007
    The center of the Earth
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Previous majority owner died did he not?
     
  6. Placid Casual

    Placid Casual Member+

    Apr 2, 2004
    Bentley's Roof
    Yep. You stated there were new owners. Was wondering who they were
     
  7. CoachP365

    CoachP365 Member

    Business Metrics SC
    Apr 26, 2012
    By making purchase of your marketing company's shares the de facto qualification for inclusion in D1.

    I get that nobody would watch a league with 8 southern california tems, 4 florida teams, 3 NY teams, and a rotating cast of 4-6 flyover "market" teams.

    Of course, nobody is really watching the league with it's current "market" makeup so maybe just evens :)
     
  8. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    England
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    They've both just been given $123 million and they're each spending around $16 million on salaries.

    Even Burnley are spending 3 times as much and they are not known for their profligacy.
     
  9. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    England
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    But it's pretty common.
     
  10. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    England
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Rumor has it that Nielsen is changing the way it calculates it's ratings so we'll see.
     
  11. Placid Casual

    Placid Casual Member+

    Apr 2, 2004
    Bentley's Roof
    Is there a link to these salaries?

    As far as I am aware the PFA doesn't publish them and you have to wait for the published accounts of each club come out.
     
  12. CrazyJ628

    CrazyJ628 Member+

    Jul 16, 2007
    The center of the Earth
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Since we’re being pedantic, with the previous chairman’s unfortunate passing, there’s a new chairman of the board. The Cincinnati Bengals’ chairperson will be Mike Brown’s kids when he passes. Their ideas about how to run the team are not 100% like their father’s.
     
  13. Placid Casual

    Placid Casual Member+

    Apr 2, 2004
    Bentley's Roof
    Right. The owner has always been King Power.
    Nothing much has changed.
    The new training ground is being built.
    Plans to expand the stadium are moving along
     
  14. Your favourite mantra was that the top six are a lock in because of their money. When that doesnot fit the current state you switch to relegation probability.
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  15. M

    M Member+

    Feb 18, 2000
    Via Ventisette
    And wrong.
     
  16. HailtotheKing

    HailtotheKing Member+

    San Antonio FC
    United States
    Dec 1, 2008
    TEXAS
    Club:
    San Antonio Scorpions FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Where did I say that? M is someone that likes to pretend things don't exist or happen. I remind ...

    Pardon, I read the information incorrectly ... "most expensive buy in 6 years and first of 1m pounds+ since Grenet in 2001"

    Changes the point only slightly though ...

    Oh, the EPL changed to a 7 match season? Missed that news.

    Here's last season's FINAL TABLE for reference:
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    Leicester was 18pts off relegation ... and 46pts off a fairy tale repeat.

    Wanna guess who the top 6 were in 17-18?
    16-17?

    Yes, after Leicester's ONE AND DONE championship fairy tale the next three seasons reverted right back to THE BIG 6. Leicester finished 12th, 9th, and 9th. Their best finish since winning the EPL has been 5pts off EUROPA qualification.

    You were saying?
     
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  17. JasonMa

    JasonMa Member+

    Mar 20, 2000
    Arvada, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Come on, you're better than that.
     
  18. HailtotheKing

    HailtotheKing Member+

    San Antonio FC
    United States
    Dec 1, 2008
    TEXAS
    Club:
    San Antonio Scorpions FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Used to be ...
     
  19. CoachP365

    CoachP365 Member

    Business Metrics SC
    Apr 26, 2012
    Oh, are they going to a televisions distributed model so the orange pinnies and red pinnies can claim their 70% of their market like they do on "dress like an empty seat" night :)
     
  20. CrazyJ628

    CrazyJ628 Member+

    Jul 16, 2007
    The center of the Earth
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Bravo. You hit every spot in MLS Conspiracy Bullshit Bingo!
     
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  21. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    England
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Leicester are still owned by King Power and still play in the King Power Stadium.
     
  22. Given the way Arsenal plays I wonder how long it will take to drop out of the top 4.
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  23. M

    M Member+

    Feb 18, 2000
    Via Ventisette
    #23723 M, Sep 30, 2019
    Last edited: Sep 30, 2019
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  24. jaykoz3

    jaykoz3 Member+

    Dec 25, 2010
    Conshohocken, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Don't hold your breath:



    The assbackwards and archaic NCAA still refuses to get out ahead of this..........shocking I know.

    The NCAA really should watch the 6 part series "The Story of Rugby." They could learn a thing or two from the missteps and mistakes of an old, archaic organization that stubbornly holds onto outdated traditions and refuses to evolve with the changing landscape.
     
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  25. KCbus

    KCbus Moderator
    Staff Member

    United States
    Nov 26, 2000
    Reynoldsburg, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I don't understand how this would even work. I don't see how they could participate in NCAA sports and just decide NCAA rules don't apply to them.
     
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