This is also the pitfall for the Superleague. Is there really enough interest outside of the countries leagues for those SL club confrontations to compensate for local losses. Plus how long do clubs stay perceived as superclubs in that setting?
NAC Breda always have a loyal fan base too, in or out of the Eredivisie. The fact is that unlike the misinterpretation by some Yanks in here the tiers arenot entities on their own but the leagues are one consistent ranking, only sub divided for practical match schedules. So the top of our second tier always are clubs that were in and often also on their way back to the first tier. Declining numbers for clubs often are part of socio economic changes in a region.
Well for a team like the Astros or Royals it's pretty damn good. They (and the A's in the mid 80s) COMPARATIVELY invest drastically lower amounts than an LA Dodgers ... yet they cultivate their farm system, produce the players, have them come up and play together for 2-4 years and actually build the nucleus of a team that ends up being the outlier/feel good WS Champion story we talk about. In relative terms (to the other clubs) the A's that went to the '88-90 WS, these Royals teams of late, and the Astros all invest a pittance compared to Boston, NY, LA, etc. Again, historically big. What happens when Bolton or Wolves or Birmingham or Coventry or Palace or Blackpool hit the skids? Well in England the top tier is an entity all its own ... cooperative with the FL yes, but an entity all it's own. In Japan J1 and J2 are separate from the rest of the pyramid. There's a couple other examples too.
In recent years, NAC Breda averaged under 14000 when in D2 and around 18000 in D1. Clearly the level had an impact.
I was busy ruining my reputation as a trolling anti-pro/rel zealot. You guys had a very nice discussion. And interesting. I have nothing to add but wanted to let you guys know that it was interesting and refreshing to read a thread that’s civil and didn’t resort to name calling👏👏👊🍺— Mike Clifford⚠️ (@Dc930Mike) January 31, 2019
I wonder if Fosun International will want to build on this season's performance to cement their team in the top 7 of the Premier League. Traditionally Wolves have a much bigger fanbase than you'd expect for a relatively small city, on the outer edge of an urban area. I'd love it for the Wolves fans who've been suffering since the 1970s.
Stories not told in the asylum of closed leagues: https://thesefootballtimes.co/2019/01/18/how-david-wagner-redefined-the-impossible-at-huddersfield/
Yes he'd still be in a job. "What is certain is that Wagner has earned the right to be spoken of in the same sentence as Huddersfield greats like Herbert Chapman and Mick Buxton. " Outside of Huddersfield Herbert Chapman and Mick Buxton shouldn't be mentioned in the same sentence.
Was anybody unaware of the feature of teams progressing up the levels in open leagues? I get that Huddersfield's recent rise is a pleasant narrative but it's not like anyone is disputing that this can happen.
Meanwhile, back to closed major league relocations... looks like I may have the Oakland/LA/Oakland/Las Vegas Raiders playing near me next season. Meanwhile, having been told to get lost by San Francisco taxpayers - including me - the 49ers will be playing in Santa Clara. https://bleacherreport.com/articles...19-season-at-san-francisco-giants-oracle-park Oh, and I see Santa Clara just got hit with having to refund the 49ers $36m of property tax. "Santa Clara County Assessor Larry Stone called the decision “shocking and unexpected” and said it will have “significant financial consequences,” especially for the Santa Clara Unified School District..." https://www.sfchronicle.com/bayarea...-dispute-Santa-Clara-County-must-13556817.php
And there's no stories like the 1991 World Series told in pro/rel leagues. This dance has been danced to death. Although we DO have clubs that used to play in lower divisions in our top division now ...
My understanding is this was one of the few times that the phrase "by mutual agreement" was actually true. Wagner had already informed the club that he was taking a break at the end of the season and as things started to go down both sides realized it was probably best to get next years manager in now. Actually Huddersfield should not only be held up as an example of a club doing the fairy tale rise, but also as one who managed their time in the prem well. They aren't mortgaging their future trying to stay up, instead their investing and putting the club on firm financial footing. And while this is going to be a rough season for the fans next year they'll be back in the crazy championship with a genuine shot of at least the playoffs. Not accusing you of this but when ever this is brought up we are told by that none of this matters because it's all about money, and what about poor Portsmouth. So I do think it is fair to remind everyone that this situation literally couldn't happen in modern American Sports.
Kevin ClarkGeverifieerd account @bykevinclark Atlanta United scored 3+ in this stadium 10 times last year. 18:14 - 3 feb. 2019 813 retweets 3.645 vind-ik-leuks 25 antwoorden 813 retweets 3.645 vind-ik-leuks jaydpauley @jaydpauley 16 uur16 uur geleden Als antwoord op @bykevinclark You know what‘s crazy? @ATLUTD had 9 games with a higher attendence in this stadium than tonight’s Super Bowl had with 70,081. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Major_League_Soccer_attendance … @MFparkhurst @DirtySouthSoc @MOTSPodcast @Longshoe @EricGQuintana 1 antwoord 6 retweets 22 vind-ik-leuks This Super Bowl experience has a particularly Empire in decline feel to it— Ben Rhodes (@brhodes) February 4, 2019