The 2019 U-20 Qualifying Thread

Discussion in 'Youth National Teams' started by TheFalseNine, Oct 15, 2017.

  1. FC Dallas 1

    FC Dallas 1 Member

    Jun 18, 2016
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    BShreddder. Your insight is appreciated. Do you think us soccer/tab will provide insight from this camp or just wait until next camp?
     
  2. Dave Marino-Nachison

    Jun 9, 1999
    England's loss to Norway at the UEFA U19s means they won't be at the FIFA finals two years after winning the tournament. (Neither will Germany or Spain, or several other "name" teams.)

     
  3. TheFalseNine

    TheFalseNine Moderator
    Staff Member

    Arsenal
    United States
    Jul 15, 2014
    Norman, Okla.
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That's insane!! What happened, does anyone know?
     
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  4. ChuckMe92

    ChuckMe92 Member+

    Jun 23, 2016
    Columbus, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    This was England's squad:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018_UEFA_European_Under-19_Championship_squads#England

    Clearly not close to their top group of '99s and later, which would include Ryan Sessegnon, Jadon Sancho, Mason Mount, Phil Foden, Marcus McGuane, Angel Gomes, Callum Hudson-Odoi, Rhian Brewster. I suppose Sessegnon is already with England U21s and has such an outstanding resume for his age, so maybe he wouldn't want to drop down to the U19s, but the others would have been very reasonable callups for this level. I'm guessing a combination of some of those clubs not releasing players -- and also England being very confident, thinking that given all their recent youth success, they could call up some players from deeper in the pool to get them experience and qualify anyway.
     
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  5. Dave Marino-Nachison

    Jun 9, 1999
  6. ussoccer97531

    ussoccer97531 Member+

    Oct 12, 2012
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    I'm not completely convinced that none of the three CF's will be available for qualifying.

    We don't even know whats happening with Soto. Supposedly he's going to sign somewhere soon, but he hasn't yet, and do we know he'll be playing with the first team wherever he signs?

    Werder Bremen just brought in another striker, and the latest report has Sargent starting with the U-23 team.

    Weah probably has the best chance to not be available, but we don't know for sure that he won't. If he stays at PSG this season and PSG does not have many injuries/suspensions, he likely won't make the 18 most weeks. If he goes out on loan, he almost certainly won't be available.
     
  7. Sandon Mibut

    Sandon Mibut Member+

    Feb 13, 2001
    So remember when we thought CB was gonna be a weakness for the team this cycle?

    Those were good times!

    Now we have Chris Richards starting for Bayern Munich on national TV and Mark McKenzie becoming a regular for a rapidly improving Philadelphia Union side.

    And, assuming those two can play for the 20s in qualifying, CB suddenly seems like a strength.
     
  8. ussoccer97531

    ussoccer97531 Member+

    Oct 12, 2012
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    I still think the depth is questionable. Richards and McKenzie is a good starting pair. Maloney as the first back up is probably also pretty good. The problem is what comes after that. There's no guarantee any of those three will be released.
     
  9. Clint Eastwood

    Clint Eastwood Member+

    Dec 23, 2003
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Harrumph.............................I was pretty confident of Richards being available for qualifying. Now I'm not so sure. I'm not convinced he's going to be in the Bayern first team when the season starts. However, Bayern doesn't seem to be treating this as a "training stint." They seem to be really treating Richards like a real part of the program. So I don't know.
     
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  10. bshredder

    bshredder BigSoccer Supporter

    Feb 23, 1999
    Club:
    Millwall FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #385 bshredder, Jul 30, 2018
    Last edited: Jul 30, 2018
    I've been on vacation - I still am but am only now wading back into the news after taking a week off.

    But when you go on Maloney's instagram, he thanks his American aunt from Orlando who came to the Raleigh camp to watch him play.

    She replied

    The "until November" part is interesting.
     
  11. TxEx

    TxEx Member+

    Tottenham Hotspur, Crystal Palace, FC Dallas
    Aug 19, 2016
    DFW
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    I don't think UB would have loaned him for the camp if they weren't serious about loaning him for qualifying. He's still on the fringes of their setup. Qualifying and the subsequent WC could make a huge difference in his game and in his potential price in the future. I'd say he's more of a lock on this roster than either McKenzie or Richards at this point.
     
  12. ussoccer97531

    ussoccer97531 Member+

    Oct 12, 2012
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    I think thats the plan for now. But Maloney is part of their first team. If they have an injury or two at CB, are they going to honor their request and play short-handed on first team CB's just to help Ramos out? I don't think so.
     
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  13. Sandon Mibut

    Sandon Mibut Member+

    Feb 13, 2001
    What's the Instagram Aunt look like?

    Asking for a friend.
     
  14. Dave Marino-Nachison

    Jun 9, 1999
    #389 Dave Marino-Nachison, Jul 31, 2018
    Last edited: Jul 31, 2018
    It's not even August and we're already down to our #4 CB!
     
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  15. Lookingforleftbacks

    Galaxy
    United States
    Dec 17, 2016
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Be honest... did you hop on IG to look?
     
  16. TarHeels17

    TarHeels17 Member+

    Jan 10, 2017
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The file is too big to upload, but Manny Perez’s Instagram story was a picture of him in the Atlanta united locker room with the captain “Last Day of Training ”
     
  17. Dave Marino-Nachison

    Jun 9, 1999
    As of this moment, he's still on NCSU's roster for the fall.

    https://gopack.com/roster.aspx?path=msoc

    FWIW, other observers have noted some guys' names dropping off at other schools.
     
  18. Thundering165

    Thundering165 Member+

    North Carolina FC
    United States
    May 1, 2017
    Raleigh
    I’m not very well versed on MLS roster rules but could Perez even sign with Atlanta? He didn’t play in their academy and would have had to go through the draft, or so I thought. Unless he’s on his way to Europe, I think he’s pretty much locked in at NCSU for the season.
     
  19. ielag

    ielag Member+

    Jul 20, 2010
    Yeah, Perez would have to go through the SuperDraft if he signs with MLS.
     
  20. Balerion

    Balerion Member+

    Aug 5, 2006
    Roslindale, MA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    MLS teams have back-doored the draft by signing players to USL contracts, but no one has ever tried it with a high-profile NCAA player like Perez.
     
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  21. ussoccer97531

    ussoccer97531 Member+

    Oct 12, 2012
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    I think I'd rather him sign with any other team in MLS.
     
  22. Balerion

    Balerion Member+

    Aug 5, 2006
    Roslindale, MA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    PT!! FC!!
     
  23. Sandon Mibut

    Sandon Mibut Member+

    Feb 13, 2001
    No comment.
     
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  24. Sandon Mibut

    Sandon Mibut Member+

    Feb 13, 2001
    I would assume that means it's his last day training with ATL before he goes back to Raleigh.

    As I understand the rules, any underclassmen an MLS team signs to a USL 2 deal can't sign an MLS deal till he's spent a year in USL. So, the Timbers, for instance, could now sign Lamar Batista to a senior deal because he signed last year.

    So if Perez were to sign with ATL2 now, he couldn't play with the MLS side till this time next year. (And that's assuming MLS even allowed it. This policy has never been tested by such a highly-regarded prospect.) If Perez were inclined to sign with ATL2, the time do have done it would've been in March.

    Whereas, if he goes into the draft this winter, he can play right away at the start of 2019.

    That said, barring a trade, it's very unlikely Perez will be on the board when ATL picks. United figure to be picking between 20-24 in the first round and Perez could easily go first overall. Of course, Atlanta also has plenty of trade chips so I can see them offering Cincinnati or San Jose something nice to move up and take Perez if they really liked what they saw whilst he trained with them.

    Having said all that, there have been rumors about foreign interest for awhile, so MLS might not even be part of the equation.
     
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  25. ussoccer97531

    ussoccer97531 Member+

    Oct 12, 2012
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    When is the qualifying draw?
     

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