The 2019 Table :: Magic Numbers, Tragic Numbers & Other Doubtful Digits

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  1. Knave

    Knave Member+

    May 25, 1999
    Ridiculous gibberish? So just like every other post in the history of this thread.
     
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  2. rslfanboy

    rslfanboy Member+

    Jul 24, 2007
    Section 26
    Rough year, huh?
     
  3. AndyMead

    AndyMead Homo Sapien

    Nov 2, 1999
    Seat 12A
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    I'm Kansas City born and bred. The Royals and Chiefs are what we're used to. I actually remember both George Brett and Len Dawson, but decades of futility and frustration are the norm for Kansas City sportsball fans. This high living #paintthewall decade of Sporting glory is definitely not what we expect.
     
  4. KCbus

    KCbus Moderator
    Staff Member

    United States
    Nov 26, 2000
    Reynoldsburg, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Glad you at least got to celebrate something.

    If I'm ever in town, let's go out for pine tar drinks.
     
  5. ManiacalClown

    ManiacalClown Member+

    Jun 27, 2003
    South Jersey
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That's how some people react to my referee explanations at least.
     
  6. xtomx

    xtomx Member+

    Chicago Fire
    Sep 6, 2001
    Northern Wisconsin, but not far from civilization
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    The Fire have NOT (I repeat NOT) officially been put out of our misery yet.
     
  7. Knave

    Knave Member+

    May 25, 1999
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    Notes

    No major changes, except LAX clinching the #1 seed.
     
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  8. SccrDon

    SccrDon Member+

    Dec 4, 2001
    Colorado Springs
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    In the 8/26 version of Toastiness, the Rapids were 7-6-14 for 27 points with 7 matches remaining. The Despair values were 3.07/3.22.

    Since that day and the coming of The Most Successful Manager in Rapids History, Robin Fraser, with 3 straight wins, we're now 10-6-14 for 36 points with 4 matches remaining.

    So it's tempting to think - we're playing better - maybe we sneak into the playoffs somehow and become the first Lazarus team???

    Nope.

    Because of how other teams are playing (like some of them are winning their matches, too), our Despair values are now 3.48/3.85. Worse. There are now 8 teams whose Projected point totals are higher than our Maximum point total (48).

    Yet another situation where how something feels is not how it actually is.

    Math is cool, if sometimes discouraging.
     
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  9. Knave

    Knave Member+

    May 25, 1999
    Despair is the only valid feeling on the Toast Thread.
     
  10. POdinCowtown

    POdinCowtown Member+

    Jan 15, 2002
    Columbus
    Look on Knave's works ye mighty and despair
     
  11. El-ahrairah

    El-ahrairah Member+

    Sep 20, 2004
    Wanker County
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    MLS sez that RSL is number 2 in the West, not Seattle. Are you in open rebellion against The Don?
     
  12. AndyMead

    AndyMead Homo Sapien

    Nov 2, 1999
    Seat 12A
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Actually the great thing about having your team be toast is that it is freeing. There is no despair because there is no false hope.

    I'm enjoying the dregs of SKC's season because I'm not particularly concerned about their chances at winning any trophies. They're not going to do it.

    I thought that was the whole point of quantifying when teams are toast - to free their fans from any faint hopes - which is the source from whence despair springs.
     
  13. song219

    song219 BigSoccer Supporter

    Apr 5, 2004
    La Norte
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    Vanuatu
    Sometimes denial is even more mighty than The Toast.
     
  14. AndyMead

    AndyMead Homo Sapien

    Nov 2, 1999
    Seat 12A
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    ******** that shit.
     
  15. BrianLBI

    BrianLBI BigSoccer Supporter

    Sep 7, 2002
    New Hampshire
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Weren't the Revs briefly Lazarus a couple of seasons back (Heaps era)?
     
  16. Kejsare

    Kejsare Member+

    Portland Timbers
    Mar 10, 2010
    Virginia
    Club:
    Portland Timbers
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    [Insert hyperbolic statement about Don's flirtations with right-wing extremists]

    But seriously, do we care about tiebreakers just yet? I wont really care until the last matchday.
     
  17. GunnerJacket

    GunnerJacket Moderator
    Staff Member

    Sep 18, 2003
    Gainesville, GA
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Or in my dating life.
     
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  18. JasonMa

    JasonMa Member+

    Mar 20, 2000
    Arvada, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    This. My Rapids-specific version of Toast is when the PPG they would need to average to reach the average number of points for the last playoff team (43 for the 7th placed team in a 34 game season) is higher than the PPG they averaged in 2016 (their best ever season). We hit that point after the first weekend of May this season. Since then I haven't concerned myself with the standings, the playoff races, or our chances. The season was over after two months, after that its just enjoy the ride.
     
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  19. Knave

    Knave Member+

    May 25, 1999
    The Toast Thread cares not for your tie-breaker pedantry. At least not until the final week or two.

    Viva The SRFC To MLS Revolution!

    False.
     
  20. jaykoz3

    jaykoz3 Member+

    Dec 25, 2010
    Conshohocken, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    When did you leave your encampment on the DOOM ledge?
     
  21. Knave

    Knave Member+

    May 25, 1999
    Some revolutions are doomed. But we still viva.
     
  22. El-ahrairah

    El-ahrairah Member+

    Sep 20, 2004
    Wanker County
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It might not be a big deal in the grand scheme of things, but to some of us, any day that Seattle is eating our dust is a good day. Ditto for LAFC, LAG, SKC, Minnesota, San Jose, FC Dallas, Houston, Colorado, Vancouver or Portland.
     
  23. EvanJ

    EvanJ Member+

    Manchester United
    United States
    Mar 30, 2004
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    MLS and MLB could both have NY vs. LA finals. Hopefully not with NYCFC. MLS Cup will be 11 to 15 days after the last game of the World Series. Wikipedia gives two dates for the MLS Conference Finals, so I'm assuming one will be Tuesday and one will be Wednesday. Those will compete with Games 6 and 7 of the World Series if it goes that many games. I understand MLS wanting over a week before MLS Cup for the host to be known and sell tickets, but maybe MLS should have made the Conference Finals Thursday and Friday that will be 9 and 10 days before MLS Cup.
     
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  24. El-ahrairah

    El-ahrairah Member+

    Sep 20, 2004
    Wanker County
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Nah, won't happen. It will be a RSL vs. NY final. RSL will play Jack the Giant Killer and take down LAFC at home (again!) in the playoffs.
     
  25. ManiacalClown

    ManiacalClown Member+

    Jun 27, 2003
    South Jersey
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Are you implying this WON'T be the year the Twins finally take down the Yankees in the postseason? :(
     
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