The 111 All-Time Greatest Bundesliga Games

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  1. Gregoriak

    Gregoriak BigSoccer Supporter

    Feb 27, 2002
    Munich
    I've thought about compiling a list like this for a while now, actually since 2003 and the fortieth Bundesliga anniversary. First I wanted to restrict it to a top 10, then it became a top 20, a top 35, a top 50 and finally a top 111. There were so many great games between 1963 and 2004 it was still pretty hard keeping it to slightly above 100 games.

    I hope this countdown will illustrate that the Bundesliga was the most exciting league in Europe for most of the past 43 years. It may have become a bit predictable in recent years and lost a fair amount of its international competitiveness since 2002, but let us not forget that the Bundesliga was (and to some extent, still is) a paradise for football fans that love high-scoring, offensively played games. That's what made football the world's most popular game, not the damn 4-5-1 low-score bull of recent years. The Bundesliga provided countless spectacular, thrilling games, I've tried to pick a couple of them here. So for fans of defensive football, better close your eyes, because this thread will pay homage to goal-packed intense thrillers with teams going for the win regardless of conceding goals or not!

    Naturally I couldn't check every single game ever played since 1963, I had to restrict myself to the top teams of the respective eras (Bayern, Köln, Hamburg, Gladbach, Schalke, Dortmund, Werder etc.). There's nothing quite like two top teams of a league battling it out in a spectacular thriller, or one of the two sides completely owning the other, or a minnow pulling off a surprise victory over the league leader.

    The Criteria is:
    - Historical significance (can be a crap game if it had some historical implications)
    - Thrill factor (a 5-4 or 4-3 between two top teams)
    - Ownage factor (one top team beating another one, say, 7-0)
    - Surprise factor (a minnow beating, or even owning, a top team)
    - Beautiful Game factor (the high art of football demonstrated by one or two teams)

    This whole thing will be done in a countdown, in batches of 5 to 6 games.

    Comments are always welcome!
     
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  2. Gregoriak

    Gregoriak BigSoccer Supporter

    Feb 27, 2002
    Munich
    Rank #111

    1. FC Köln 0
    RW Oberhausen 1

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    Place: Köln, Müngersdorfer Stadion
    Time: Saturday, 3:30 a.m.
    Date: 21 March 1970
    Attendance: 32,000
    Referee: Herden (Hamburg)

    Goal Scorer:
    0-1 Karbowiak 87


    Commentary:
    Alright, let’s start on a modest note. You may wonder what’s so significant about this game, and indeed it doesn’t look like much at first view. The significance of this game lies in the fact that it broke Köln’s great run of successive victories in the 1969-70 Bundesliga season plus it came as such a shock to Köln’s players, that they completely lost their head for the rest of the season, losing the next straight five games. If not for this shock home defeat against lowly-ranked Oberhausen, Cologne might have had a very good chance of winning the Bundesliga championship in 1970. Consider the following: in late-1969, Cologne beat Schalke 8-0 and then beat Bayern at Munich 2-1. This was followed by an unlucky home defeat against Borussia Mönchengladbach, but in the next months, Köln started a series of convincing victories, beating Kaiserslautern 6-1, Hertha BSC 5-1, VfB Stuttgart 3-0, RW Essen 5-2, Hannover 96 5-0, Hamburg 5-2. By early March 1970, Cologne was leading the Bundesliga table, in front of Gladbach and Bayern, and they looked like the most likely team to win the championship. Overath up to that point arguably played as good like never before or since (some even compared him with Alfredo di Stéfano), the Cologne midfield of Overath, Flohe and Simmet was hailed as the best in the Bundesliga, the forwards Löhr, Rupp, Hornig and Rühl were all in top form and at the back center back Weber and goalie Manglitz were rock solid (Manglitz even considered best keeper in Germany at the time). It really looked as if nothing could stop Cologne from going all the way. But then came Oberhausen, and this single game changed the whole course of Cologne’s Bundesliga campaign that year. If not for that game, Cologne might have won the Bundesliga in 1970 and the great Gladbach era might not have happened (at least not the way we know it).


    1. FC Köln

    --------------------Manglitz

    -----Rühl------Biskup------Weber---Hemmersbach

    --------Simmet----Overath-----Flohe

    ---------Rupp-------Löhr-------Hornig

    Manager: Hans Merkle


    RW Oberhausen

    -----Krauthausen---Dausmann--Fritsche

    ------L.Kobluhn------Brozulat-----Fröhlich

    --F.Kobluhn--Hentschel-----Dick----Wilbertz

    ---------------------Scheid

    Manager: Alfred Preissler

    Subs:
    18 Blusch in, Hemmersbach out
    70 Jäger in, Wilbertz out
    77 Karbowiak in, Dausmann out
     
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  3. Gregoriak

    Gregoriak BigSoccer Supporter

    Feb 27, 2002
    Munich
    Rank #110

    Fortuna Düsseldorf 4
    Bayern München 1

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    Place: Düsseldorf, Rheinstadion
    Time: Friday, 8 a.m.
    Date: 3 February 1984
    Attendance: 60,000
    Referee: Umbach (Rottorf)

    Goal Scorers:
    1-0 Dusend 30
    2-0 Thiele 33
    3-0 Nachtweih 39 own goal
    3-1 Dürnberger 73
    4-1 Edvaldsson 90


    Commentary:
    Well, Fortuna Düsseldorf's Bundesliga campaign in 1983-84 must rate as one of the oddest ever. I’ve picked this ecstatic victory over Bayern Munich in February 84, as it was the peak of Fortuna’s fantastic-and-awful-at-once season. A season in which they were considered serious contenders for the title (by end of 1983 and early 1984), but ended playing like a amateur team that saw itself having to compete in topflight football. Weird stuff. During that season, Fortuna lost 2-5 at Kaiserslautern, then in the next game beat Borussia Dortmund 7-0, then went on to win four of its next five games (among it a 5-0 vs. Offenbach) before losing 0-2 at Bremen. No damage done, in the next six games Fortuna only lost once (naturally against arch rivals Cologne), but beat Braunschweig 4-0, Gladbach 4-1 and Bayern 4-1. During these months, Fortuna hung in the top five and even made it to second place once, but after a 2-5 hammering away at Hamburg, the team complete lost it. The next game they lost 1-5 at home (vs. Kaiserslautern), then followed a 0-6 at Dortmund’s Westfalenstadion. A 0-6 at Stuttgart and a 1-5 at Offenbach (who were really really weak). Then a 3-4 at home against Bremen and a 1-4 at Braunschweig. To finish things off in style, Fortuna lost the last game of the season 1-6 at Bochum. Dig that. Fortuna just slightly escaped relegation, finishing with a scoreline of 63 goals for and 75 against. From then on it was all downhill for Fortuna, they tried to reach the stars but at the end only brought doom over themselves! (and their pitiable fans)


    Fortuna Düsseldorf

    --------------------------Kleff

    ----Bockenfeld----Zewe---Löhr-----Kuczinski

    -------Weikl-------Fach----Bommer---Dusend

    -----------Edvaldsson----------G.Thiele

    Manager: Willibert Kremer


    Bayern München

    --------K.H.Rummenigge---M.Rummenigge

    ---------Nachtweih----------------Mathy

    ----------------Kraus------------Grobe

    --Dürnberger--Beierlorzer--Augenthaler--Dremmler

    --------------------------Pfaff

    Manager: Udo Lattek


    Subs:
    36 D.Hoeness in, Beierlorzer out
    67 Del’Haye in, Mathy out
     
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  4. Gregoriak

    Gregoriak BigSoccer Supporter

    Feb 27, 2002
    Munich
    Rank #109

    FC Schalke 04 0
    VfL Bochum 6

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    Place: Gelsenkirchen, Parkstadion
    Time: Saturday, 3:30 a.m.
    Date: 9 May 1981
    Attendance: 38,000
    Referee: Klauser (Vaterstetten)

    Goal Scorers:
    0-1 M.Jakobs 18
    0-2 Woelk 43
    0-3 Pinkall 59
    0-4 Pinkall 76
    0-5 Abel 79
    0-6 Abel 87


    Commentary:
    Arguably Schalke’s most epic defeat and the game that sealed their first ever Bundesliga relegation. They had been in trouble all season but could at least rely on their strength in home games, having beat Hambug 2-1 only two weeks prior to this game. They were atrocious away, but as I said, pretty hard to beat at home. Then came this game against local Ruhrpott rivals Bochum. Schalke never thought highly of Bochum, never considered them a competitor, worthy of a rivalry. But this season, Bochum was riding high while Schalke was the struggling team. At the start of the game, 38,000 spectators were in the stadium, shortly before the game was over, almost 30,000 of them had left the stadium (only the Bochum supporters stayed). Schalke supporters just couldn’t bear the sight of getting hammered 0-6 at home by Bochum. Bochum played brilliantly, performing a modern brand of football that Schalke supporters had not seen by any team that season. Tenhagen, Bast, Woelk, Pinkall and Michael Jakobs (as marker of Klaus Fischer) excelled. Schalke looked stiff and inelastic compared to Bochum, their defenders never going forward and the forwards never going back. There was no other way but down for Schalke at the end of the season and this game finally marked the end of the controversial but glorious 1970s for the team. The next 10 years Schalke would move up and down between first and second Bundesliga, a miserable time for the fans.


    FC Schalke 04

    ----------------------Nigbur

    ----Dzoni----Siewert----Danner----J.Täuber

    -----Bittcher---Opitz---Drexler---Jara

    ------------Kügler----------Fischer

    Manager: Fahrudin Jusufi


    VfL Bochum

    ----------Abel-----Chr.Gross------Pinkall

    -----------Blau-------Woelk-------Tenhagen

    ----Lameck-----Bast------M.Jakobs----Gerland

    ------------------------Mager

    Manager: Helmut Johannsen

    Subs:
    44 Elgert in, Kügler out
     
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  5. Gregoriak

    Gregoriak BigSoccer Supporter

    Feb 27, 2002
    Munich
    Rank #108

    Bayern München 2
    Borussia Dortmund 3

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    Place: Munich, Olympiastadion
    Time: Saturday, 3:30 a.m.
    Date: 10 November 1990
    Attendance: 29,000
    Referee: Berg (Konz)

    Goal Scorers:
    1-0 Effenberg 70
    1-1 Helmer 79
    1-2 J.Wegmann 81
    1-3 Povlsen 85
    2-3 Thon 90


    Commentary
    The significance of this game was probably that it somehow marked the start of Borussia Dortmund’s “Glory Years”, the 1990s. It was still half a year before Ottmar Hitzfeld would take over control at the Westfalenstadion, but in the 1990-91 season there were already many hints that big things were about to come. Bayern officials prior to the game had announced that a “football festival” was to be expected, but of course they didn’t quite mean it this way as Dortmund proved to be first class party poopers. After 70 minutes, the game looked to go the expected way, after Effenberg had scored with a magnificent shot after a fine 1-2 with Olaf Thon. Strangely, instead of getting more assured of themselves, Bayern lost discipline and order in the minutes after the lead. For Dortmund, there was only one option, trying to win regardless of risking a higher a defeat, the reasoning being that with only 13-13 points after defeat, the season would have looked very dissatisfactory already before half of it was played. Thomas Helmer, the sweeper, joined the attack and with courage and aggressiveness as well as joker Jürgen Wegmann (former Bayern player), Dortmund managed the unthinkable, scoring three goals in six minutes. Helmer being unmarked scored the equalizer with a header, Wegmann scored the lead after turning around the dumpfounded Augenthaler, then Poschner passes to Wegmann who plays a beautiful through ball to Povlsen, who fools Bayern goalie Aumann: 3-1. Michael Zorc played a great game as a defensive midfielder, while Poschner, Strerath and Schulz managed to control Bayern’s dangerous right flank (Reuter, Strunz). Michael Rummenigge acted in one of his best ever performances, winning almost ever duel with Effenberg as well as creating many chances for Povlsen and Poschner. Well, it was quite a team Ottmar Hitzfeld took over in the summer of 1991…


    Bayern München

    ----------------------Aumann

    --------------------Augenthaler

    -----Reuter---------Kohler----------Pflügler

    ------------Strunz-----------Effenberg

    ----------Thon-------------------Dorfner

    -----------B.Laudrup----Wohlfarth

    Manager: Jupp Heynckes


    Borussia Dortmund

    ----------------------Povlsen

    ----------Poschner-----------M.Rummenigge

    ---------Strerath--------Zorc--------Lusch

    -----M.Schulz----Gorlukovich-----Quallo

    ------------------------Helmer

    ------------------------de Beer

    Manager: Horst Köppel


    Subs:
    46 Bender in, Dorfner out
    63 Kutowski in, Lusch out
    72 McInally in, Laudrup out
    72 Wegmann in, Strerath out
     
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  6. Gregoriak

    Gregoriak BigSoccer Supporter

    Feb 27, 2002
    Munich
    Rank #107

    Hertha BSC Berlin 3
    Bayern München 3

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    Place: Berlin, Olympiastadion
    Time: Saturday, 3:30 a.m.
    Date: 30 January 1971
    Attendance: 70,000
    Referee: Eschweiler (Euskirchen)

    Goal Scorers:
    0-1 Müller 5
    1-1 Gayer 19
    1-2 Brenninger 24
    2-2 Gayer 47
    2-3 Hoeness 77
    3-3 Horr 79 pen



    Commentary:
    Hertha BSC was a side that could have done great things if its players hadn’t been involved in the match fixing scandal of 1971. Hertha was promoted in 1968 and fought against relegation that season, but for some reason there was a surreal enthusiasm for the old lady Hertha at the start of the new season, some 75,000 people watching the opening game against minnows Duisburg (1-0), later that year 90,000 people would attend the game vs. Cologne. During the next two years, Hertha regularly could boast huge crowds in her home games, which lead to bitter debates among the other club representatives, as Hertha officials argued that they could sell out the Olympiastadion against any team, that in fact people came to watch Hertha, not the opponent which led them to argue that the money generated by ticket sales should not be parted fify:fifty but more like 75:25 in Hertha’s favor. Thus other clubs officials observed the “Hertha Wunder” with envy. Hertha finished third in 1969-70 (behind the super teams Gladbach and Bayern but in front of super team Köln). They would again finish third the next season, from which I chose this spectacular game vs. Bayern, but the “Bundesliga Skandal” soon yielded bad fruits, most of Hertha’s players were involved and thus the team broke apart overnight. The crowds became insignificant as a bunch of young players coupled with few veterans managed to keep Hertha in the Bundesliga in the next three years. If not for this moronic involvement in the match fixing scandal, Hertha could have become the superpower pundits always expect it to become, as there was nothing more crucial in terms of financial well-doing in 1970s football than ticket sales, and Hertha was far and away the biggest ticket seller in the Bundesliga over two years straight.


    Hertha BSC

    ---------------------------------Gross

    ----------Patzke----------Witt---------Wild---------Ferschl

    --------------Gergely----------Gayer--------Sperlich

    ---------------Brungs-----------Horr----------Varga


    Bayern München

    ----------Brenninger--------G.Müller--------Mrosko

    ---------U.Hoeness----------Zobel-----------Roth

    --Koppenhöfer--Schwarzenbeck---Beckenbauer---Hansen

    ---------------------------------Maier
    Subs:
    65 Steffenhagen in, Varga out
     
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  7. bayern_man

    bayern_man Member

    Dec 18, 2004
    Scotland
    nice man,keep up the good work,i love this thread,i dunno if you want us to give suggestions or whatever,but i think the dortmund-bayern game in i think 1999 should be in this maybe,it didnt really have too much significance,but 3 guys got sent off and i think there were 10 yellow cards,there is a video of it on youtube
     
  8. Gregoriak

    Gregoriak BigSoccer Supporter

    Feb 27, 2002
    Munich
    I already made the complete list of games that will be featured. Hint: Number of red and yellow cards was not a factor in the compilation.
     
  9. Gregoriak

    Gregoriak BigSoccer Supporter

    Feb 27, 2002
    Munich
    Rank #106

    Bayern München 5
    VfB Stuttgart 3

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    Place: Munich, Olympiastadion
    Time: Saturday, 8 a.m.
    Date: 28 October 1995
    Attendance: 63,000
    Referee: Weber (Berkamen)

    Goal Scorers:
    1-0 Strunz 45
    2-0 Zickler 49
    3-0 Scholl 63 pen
    3-1 Kruse 76
    3-2 Elber 79
    3-3 Elber 84
    4-3 Zickler 85
    5-3 Scholl 90 pen


    Commentary:
    One of a series of outstanding games southern German rivals Bayern und Stuttgart played during the 1990s. Stuttgart was dominating the first half, playing an unusual 4-4-2 (unusual for a 1990s Bundesliga side), with Balakov at the center of command and the deadly striking pair of Elber and Bobic up front. While Stuttgart was neat offensively, they were not more than average at the back. Their defense made it easy for a struggling Bayern side to score three regular goals (plus twice from bogus penalties). Although Bayern were leading the Bundesliga at that time, lots of problems were troubling the club. New manager Otto Rehhagel (of Werder Bremen and later Greece fame) found it impossible to settle in at the new surroundings. 14 years had he been the undisputed commander in chief at Werder Bremen, with absolute power in all sportive aspects, but in Munich, he faced people like Beckenbauer, Rummenigge and Hoeness, he couldn’t brush them and their differing opinions aside like he could at Werder. At the center of controversy was Mehmet Scholl, who Rehhagel rarely used, mostly placed him on the bench, much to the displeasure of Bayern president Franz Beckenbauer, who publicly stated that Scholl was not a player to be wasted on the bench. Rehhagel had no other chance than to comply to his omnipotent president’s wishes. In private, Rehhagel could not believe that he did not have complete control over the team, and it became quite obvious to the manager and club officials that the marriage between Werder’s star manager and Bayern would not be a lasting one. Before the end of the season, Rehhagel was gone, taking over newly relegated Kaiserslautern (more of that later).



    Bayern München

    ----------------------------Kahn

    ---------------------------Strunz

    ------------Babbel-------------------Helmer

    ----D.Hamann----------Sforza------------Ziege

    ---------------Scholl-------------A.Herzog

    -----------Klinsmann--------------Papin


    Manager: Otto Rehhagel


    VfB Stuttgart

    --------------Bobic--------------------Elber

    -------------------------Balakov

    -------Poschner---------Foda-----------Buck

    ----Bochtler----Verlaat------H.Herzog-----Berthold

    --------------------------Ziegler


    Manager: Rolf Fringer

    Subs:
    46 Kögl in, Poschner out
    46 Zickler in, Klinsmann out
    65 Haber in, Buck out
    75 Kruse in, Bobic out
    81 Nerlinger in, A.Herzog out
     
  10. Gregoriak

    Gregoriak BigSoccer Supporter

    Feb 27, 2002
    Munich
    Rank # 105

    1. FC Köln 2
    Borussia Mönchengladbach 5

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    Place: Cologne, Müngersdorfer Stadion
    Time: Saturday, 4 a.m.
    Date: 25 November 1967
    Attendance: 39,000
    Referee: Wengenmayr (Munich)

    Goal Scorers:
    1-0 Löhr 32
    1-1 Wimmer 35
    1-2 Meyer 65
    1-3 Meyer 67
    1-4 Netzer pen
    1-5 Wimmer 87
    2-5 Simmet 89



    Commentary:
    The reasons for the young Gladbach side’s dominant and stylish display at Rhineland rivals Cologne were the following: the tenacious and sturdy Peter Dietrich confined the impact of Cologne’s playmaker Wolfgang Overath to a minimum and Günter Netzer wanted to prove to the attending Germany manager Helmut Schön that he wrongly preferred Overath to him, which led to an excellent game of Netzer. Especially his artful and refined freekicks were unrivalled in the Bundesliga. Another reason for Gladbach’s sovereign victory: psychological effect of wanting to beat the arch rival after years of humiliation (just a week earlier Gladbach played poorly against Frankfurt in a 1-1 draw). All this led to the best away performance not only by Gladbach but by any team to that date. Rarely had the art of counter-attacking been demonstrated so skillfully as in this game.


    1. FC Köln

    ---------------------Schumacher

    ---W.Rausch----Thielen----Weber----Pott

    ------------------------Simmet

    ------Hemmersbach-----------Overath

    --------Rühl------------Löhr----------Hornig


    Borussia Mönchengladbach

    --Ackermann---Laumen---P.Meyer---Wimmer

    -------------Netzer----------------Dietrich

    ----Vogts-----Wittmann------Milder----Pöggeler

    ------------------------Danner

    Subs:
    No subs
     
  11. Gregoriak

    Gregoriak BigSoccer Supporter

    Feb 27, 2002
    Munich
    Rank # 104

    Hamburg SV 5
    Bayern München 0

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    Place: Hamburg, Volksparkstadion
    Time: Friday, 8 a.m.
    Date: 1 April 1977
    Attendance: 51,000
    Referee: Burgers (Essen)

    Goal Scorers:
    1-0 Zaczyk 19
    2-0 Reimann 21
    3-0 Memering 59
    4-0 Volkert 67 pen
    5-0 Steffenhagen 73


    Commentary:
    Bayern and Hamburg met three times in the 1976-77 season, in the first two encounters, Bayern won 5-1 in the Cup and 6-2 in the league. But by the time they were to meet the third time, Bayern had lost a lot of its initial steam (they had scored 50 goals in the first 15 games!), while the Northern Germans were steadily moving up the table after a poor start to the season. It was a rainy Friday night in which Hamburg fulfilled their managing director Krohn’s prophecy of Hamburg paying back in spades for the two epic defeats earlier in the season. The main difference between the Bayern side of late 1976 and the one Hamburg faced in spring 1977 was the absence of Gerd Müller, who was in devastating form throughout 1976, having scored 20 goals in the first 19 games of the season before he had to be operated due to a herniated vertebral disk in late-January 1977. Müller made his comeback in the week after the Hamburg game, during the three months of his absence, Bayern fell from runner-up position behind Gladbach to the sixth place in the league table. Of the nine games his teammates had to play without Müller, Bayern only won twice but lost five times, scoring only five goals in the process!

    The first of Hamburg’s five goals was scored by veteran Klaus Zaczyk, who didn’t find a teammate he could pass to, so he just tried to shoot and unexpectedly the ball found the way to the left goal post and from there hit the net. Two minutes later Steffenhagen crossed the ball from the right flank, Beckenbauer jumped but couldn’t head the ball, Hamburg’s center forward Willi Reimann however could reach it and headed the ball into the net (it looked like an off-side goal, though). After 21 minutes Bayern’s concept – making the game slow, keeping possession paired with occasional counter attacks over the two forwards Künkel and Rummenigge – had become useless. For the remainder of the game, Hamburg could lean back counter attacking, especially dangerous at that was right back Manfred Kaltz, who was very instrumental in Hamburg’s rout during the second half. His marker Franz Roth didn’t get to terms with him while Caspar Memering disposed off his opponent Kapellmann time and again after the break.

    Roth and Kapellmann weren’t the only Bayern plays with problems in direct confrontation with their opponents, Torstensson struggled against Magath, Andersson against Volkert and Schwarzenbeck against Reimann. Hamburg’s defence wasn’t that strong either, but Bayern’s attack was in a woeful state without Gerd Müller in the middle. Beckenbauer moved up forward to strengthen Bayern’s weak midfield but this led to many opportunities for Hamburg to counter attack and ten minutes after the break, Memering (who was in contract talks with Bayern at the time) scored with a deflected 25 meter shot which allowed Maier no save. Then Torstensson committed a foul on Magath in the box which led to a penalty converted by Volkert and five minutes later Steffenhagen scored the fifth goal after being left completely unmarked by Gruber. The Hamburg crowd of course was in delirium, having shown the ropes to the dominators of European football. Six days later, Gerd Müller came back from his injury pause, and guess what, he scored in the first minute! During the last six games of the season, Müller was to score some eight goals, bringing his total to 28 in only 25 games.


    Hamburg SV

    ---------------------------Kargus

    -----------Kaltz------Ripp------Nogly-----Hidien

    ------------Memering----Zaczyk----Magath

    ---------Steffenhagen--Reimann----Volkert

    Manager: Kuno Klötzer

    Bayern München

    ---------------Künkel-------K.H.Rummenigge

    --Kapellmann-----Roth-----Torstensson--Horsmann

    -Gruber--Schwarzenbeck--Beckenbauer--Andersson

    ---------------------------Maier

    Manager: Dettmar Cramer

    Subs:
    58 Keller in, Reimann out
    63 Kirschner in, Horsmann out
    68 Önal in, Torstensson out
     
  12. Gregoriak

    Gregoriak BigSoccer Supporter

    Feb 27, 2002
    Munich
    Rank #103

    1. FC Köln 2
    FC Schalke 04 4

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    Place: Cologne, Müngersdorfer Stadion
    Time: Saturday, 3:30 a.m.
    Date: 10 September 1977
    Attendance: 56,000
    Referee: Redelfs (Hannover)

    Goal Scorers:
    1-0 Müller 30
    1-1 Fischer 43
    1-2 Rüssmann 47
    1-3 Thiele 66
    1-4 Fischer 70 pen
    2-4 Flohe 90


    Commentary:
    This away win at Cologne, who later became champions, was arguably the last hurrah of the Schalke side that played an important part in Bundesliga history of the 1970s. Schalke were topping the Bundesliga table for most of the early part of the 77-78 season and this game rates as one of Schalke’s finest ever performances. Klaus Fischer cemented his reputation as Germany’s best center forward, his main competitor being Dieter Müller of Cologne, who was marked out of the game by Germany’s – at that time – best center back, the giant Rolf Rüssmann. Although Schalke had the first few opportunities, it was Cologne that scored the first goal: Schalke goalie Volkmar Gross missed a long throw-in by Heinz Flohe, the ball gets to Dieter Müller who only has to poach the ball over the goalline. However Schalke continued to play as if that goal hadn’t happened, calmly dominating, and shortly before the break Klaus Fischer scored the equalizer. The game’s most important goal was scored by Rolf Rüssmann two minutes into the second half, weighing the ball heavily into the net with his head after a corner. Now Cologne had to force the equalizer which allowed Schalke retreat and concentrate on counter attacking. In the 66th minute right back Bernd Thiele pushed the ball forward between Cologne’s Löhr and Neumann, who watched Thiele do his thing somewhat lethargically, at the penalty box Thiele outdribbled Cologne’s sweeper Roland Gerber and then proceeded to shoot the ball into the goal. A nice effort by Thiele but helped by terrible defending.

    Schalke’s fourth goal came after a long but precise goalkick by Volkmar Gross spanning 70 meters which reached Klaus Fischer, who off set his marker Herbert Zimmermann three times before Fischer was brought down in the box. The resulting penalty Fischer converted himself. 15 minutes before time, Dieter Müller was fouled in Schalke’s box by Rolf Rüssmann, but Müller failed to score from the spot as Schalke’s excellent goalie saved his shot. Cologne’s manager Weisweiler was angry at Dieter Müller for wasting this golden opportunity, as the number one penalty taker was actually Heinz Flohe. Flohe got to score a consolation goal a few minutes before time, but other than that he played uninspired and couldn’t shake off his marker Ulrich Bittcher.

    The Cologne midfield in general was overpowered, as Simmet couldn’t handle Helmut Kremers and Herbert Neumann lost his duel against Hannes Bongartz. The Cologne media noted that Schalke’s performance in the second half was of a class previously only shown by Bayern Munich or Borussia Mönchengladbach during the early 1970s. Schalke however somehow lost its form in the next weeks, getting hammered by Bayern 1-7 in Munich only two weeks later and despite topping the Bundesliga league table for six weeks in autumn 1977, they only managed to finish ninth at the end of the season. Three years later the club was relegated. Cologne surprisingly got back on track relatively fast, beating Borussia Mönchengladbach 5-2 away only three weeks later. At the end they won their second and to this date last Bundesliga championship.


    1. FC Köln

    ----------------------------Schumacher

    ---Konopka-------R.Gerber------H.Zimmermann---Nicot

    -----------Simmet--------H.Neumann-------Flohe

    ---------Van Gool---------D.Müller----------Löhr

    Manager: Hennes Weisweiler

    FC Schalke 04

    -------E.Kremers-------Fischer---------Abramczik

    ------H.Kremers-------Bongartz--------Bittcher

    ---Sobieray----Rüssmann----Fichtel----B.Thiele

    ---------------------------Gross

    Manager: Friedel Rausch

    Subs:
    none
     
  13. Gregoriak

    Gregoriak BigSoccer Supporter

    Feb 27, 2002
    Munich
    Rank #102

    Bayern München 4
    Werder Bremen 2

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    Place: Munich, Olympiastadion
    Time: Wednesday, 8 a.m.
    Date: 29 August 1984
    Attendance: 40,000
    Referee: Uhlig (Dortmund)

    Goal Scorers:
    1-0 Rummenigge 15
    2-0 Lerby 39
    2-1 Pezzey 43
    3-1 Lerby 53
    3-2 Neubarth 61
    4-2 Lerby 87


    Commentary:
    In this game, Sören Lerby finally managed to step out of Paul Breitner’s shadow. Lerby had joined Bayern in the summer of 1983 and was expected to replace the retiring Paul Breitner as Bayern’s midfield general. Lerby had proved to be capable of that job during the years he played for Ajax Amsterdam. However he found it difficult to fill out the same role Breitner played at Bayern, as Breitner was not only the leader on the pitch but also off it and for the Dane Lerby it proved impossible. While Lerby wasn’t playing badly during his first season at Bayern (83-84) he did in no way meet the expectations of Bayern’s officials, the fans and the media alike. This was about to change in 1984. Although nominally Bayern were weakened as Karl-Heinz Rummenigge had left them, they in fact became a stronger team as Lothar Matthäus was added to the midfield and Norbert Eder to the defence, both departments having been troublezones during the previous season. Although Werder were beaten rather soundly in this game, they went on to become Bayern’s biggest rival throughout the season and the rest of the 1980s, this being the first of many classic games between the two teams under the managers Rehhagel and Lattek. Lerby overshadowed all other playes not only because he scored three of Bayern’s four goals, but also by the way he acted in the midfield, his precise passing reminded some observers of a certain Günter Netzer. After this win against Bremen and an impressive 3-1 victory at Bundesliga champions’ Stuttgart, an originally unfancied Bayern side won the first six games straight setting a new Bundesliga record becoming the hot favorites to win the title that year.

    Bayern München

    ------------------------------Aumann

    ----------------------------Augenthaler

    ------------Martin-------------Eder----------Pflügler

    -------Dremmler-------------------------------Nachtweih

    -----------------------Lerby----------Matthäus

    ------------------M.Rummenigge---Wohlfarth

    Manager: Udo Lattek

    Werder Bremen

    ---------------Völler---------------Reinders

    -----N.Meier----Okudera-----Sidka-----Möhlmann

    ----------Otten------------Kutzop---------Schaaf

    ----------------------------Pezzey

    ---------------------------Burdenski

    Manager: Otto Rehhagel

    Subs:
    2 Kögl in, Nachtweih out
    47 Neubarth in, Meier out
    70 G.Hermann in, Otten out
    75 Grobe in, Wohlfarth out
     
  14. ForeverRed

    ForeverRed Member+

    Aug 18, 2005
    NYC
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Excellent thread, can't thank you enough for posting these...must be a lot of hard work.

    Anyways, can't wait for some recent games to make an appearance.
     
  15. BigLamont

    BigLamont New Member

    Jul 21, 2006
    this is cool, keep it up!
     
  16. The Old Lady Hertha

    The Old Lady Hertha New Member

    Dec 15, 2004
    Boston, MA
    Club:
    Hertha BSC Berlin
    Nat'l Team:
    China PR
    Err...hard to imagine them playing at 330 AM...
     
  17. Gregoriak

    Gregoriak BigSoccer Supporter

    Feb 27, 2002
    Munich
    But sure! All to please the Chinese! ;)
     
  18. Gregoriak

    Gregoriak BigSoccer Supporter

    Feb 27, 2002
    Munich
    Don't hold your breath! There were maybe 3 or 4 games from the current decade worthy of inclusion...
     
  19. ForeverRed

    ForeverRed Member+

    Aug 18, 2005
    NYC
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    I'll take what I can get....I was pretty sure there wouldn't be many of recent times included, but thats what makes it interesting, to see which actually got included.
     
  20. Bayerntone

    Bayerntone Member

    Nov 7, 2005
    HK
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Greg, good work. Can't evaluate the ranking and the commentary yet.

    Also the kickoff time in Germany should be pm shouldn't they? coz matches are usually scheduled in nite time or afternoon.
     
  21. Gregoriak

    Gregoriak BigSoccer Supporter

    Feb 27, 2002
    Munich
    A.M. was a mistake - multiplied through copy-and-paste! All games were of course staged at p.m.
     
  22. unclesox

    unclesox BigSoccer Supporter

    Mar 8, 2003
    209, California
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Love this thread! :cool:
    Great memories just reading some of those lineups.

    Are these on your list? (withheld scorelines to as not to spoil :p )

    76-77:
    Bayern M - Schalke <-- surely top 10 or even top 5

    77-78:
    M'gladbach-Dortmund <-- this should rank high too.

    78-79:
    M'gladbach - HSV
    Dussseldorf - Bayern M
    Nurnberg - Stuttgart

    82-83:
    Werder B - HSV
    Bielefeld - HSV


    Any chance that you might do a similar list of German clubs in Europe? Or one for the Mannschaft? :)
     
  23. Alex_K

    Alex_K Member+

    Mar 23, 2002
    Braunschweig, Germany
    Club:
    Eintracht Braunschweig
    Nat'l Team:
    Bhutan
    I had taped the Köln - Oberhausen game... why is there no [R] in the thread title? :(

    Disclaimer: no, I haven't really taped it :D.
     
  24. Jaison

    Jaison New Member

    May 6, 2005
    Tristan da Cunha

    LOL!! You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Alex_K again.


    BTW,

    great job as usual Gregoriak! :cool:
     
  25. Gregoriak

    Gregoriak BigSoccer Supporter

    Feb 27, 2002
    Munich
    Five of those seven games will be featured. One of these games I actually only included because I read your enthusiastic report on it a year ago or so. Guess which.


    A countdown on the greatest German games in the European Cup would be easier to do, as there's less games to observe, and I actually already toyed with the idea. But let's see if I still have the necessary energy left after getting this countdown done. It would surely be great fun.
     

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