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Discussion in 'Mexico National Team' started by Overachiever, Apr 11, 2014.

  1. Saldgotti1991

    Saldgotti1991 Member+

    Jun 7, 2011
    San Diego
    Club:
    CD Chivas de Guadalajara
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    I remember when a few years back Mexicans attributed for more than 100 goals in Europe (assists and goals), they were still saying our players were overrated, now look at them.
     
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  2. AMLO2018

    AMLO2018 Member+

    Monterrey
    Mexico
    Jul 12, 2012
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    Such a trash fanbase

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  3. Miguel Myers

    Miguel Myers Member+

    Dec 3, 2011
    Club:
    Club América
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
     
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  4. LAFEFUT

    LAFEFUT Member+

    Mexico
    Mar 13, 2018
    Actually,
    Raymond James Stadium is close to the corner of Hillsborough and Dale Mabry where there is a huge Colombian area.
     
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  5. MK3owner

    MK3owner Member

    Jul 26, 2010
    Kissimmee FL.
    Club:
    Deportivo Toluca FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    All of the major metro areas in central and south Florida boast large South American populations, mainly Colombian and Venezuelan. Which is why this game was hosted in Florida. The USMNT isn’t selling out a large stadium for a friendly anywhere, especially not in here (FL).
     
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  6. JRB92

    JRB92 Member+

    Sep 23, 2009
    lol



     
  7. LaMascara

    LaMascara Member+

    Apr 11, 2013
    Club:
    Pachuca CF
    Those teams have better ratings than mlols
     
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  8. Serg33

    Serg33 Member+

    Jul 11, 2007
    "The cusp"

    Lol
     
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  9. Miguel Myers

    Miguel Myers Member+

    Dec 3, 2011
    Club:
    Club América
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
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  10. sidspaceman

    sidspaceman Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 20, 2002
    AMÉRICA DE CALI
    Club:
    America de Cali
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
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  11. LaMascara

    LaMascara Member+

    Apr 11, 2013
    Club:
    Pachuca CF
    The check cleared? Lol
     
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  12. chivamex10

    chivamex10 Member+

    Mar 1, 2010
    your mom's house
    Club:
    CD Chivas de Guadalajara
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    6th?

    Here’s my hot take.
    1. Premier League @sidspaceman
    2. La Liga
    3. Serie A
    4. Bundesliga
    5. Ligue 1
    6. Brazilian League
    7. Superliga Argentina
    8. Portuguese league
    9. Mexican League
    10. Dutch league
    Anyone wanna give this a crack?
     
  13. Kaney

    Kaney Sleeping Dragon
    Staff Member

    Dec 12, 2005
    Lake County, IL AKA Southern Wisconsin
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    Your first 6 are correct. Russian Premier League and Turkish league at a similar level to Portuguese league...
     
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  14. chivamex10

    chivamex10 Member+

    Mar 1, 2010
    your mom's house
    Club:
    CD Chivas de Guadalajara
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    Hmmm let's see:

    According to UEFA
    rankings .jpg

    interesting...
     
  15. DGreat

    DGreat Moderator
    Staff Member

    CD Guadalajara
    Mexico
    Oct 5, 2007
    El Ombligo
    Club:
    CD Chivas de Guadalajara
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    As a league, top to bottom I think ligaMX is better than Dutch and Portuguese. I'd also argue that the Colombian can challenge both Dutch and Portuguese
     
  16. Kaney

    Kaney Sleeping Dragon
    Staff Member

    Dec 12, 2005
    Lake County, IL AKA Southern Wisconsin
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    There is a much bigger gap between the best teams and worst teams in Holland and Portugal than LigaMX...
     
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  17. Lukato

    Lukato Member+

    Sep 7, 2012
    Club:
    CDSC Cruz Azul
    A los equipos mexicanos se les infla demasiado, yo no pondria a la liga mx ni en el top 10, creo que el top 11 de Europa todos son mejores y Argentina y Brazil siguen estando arriba, talvez si hubieramos seguido en libertadores en los ultimos años tendriamos parametros para decir que estamos al nivel pero desde que la FMF decidio ponernos a competir con la MLS exclusivamente y ampliar el numero de foraneos de pacotilla que llegan a Mexico la liga esta en caida libre.
     
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  18. LAFEFUT

    LAFEFUT Member+

    Mexico
    Mar 13, 2018
    These lists "can" be subjective therefore statistical data has to be used to separate patriotism from accomplishments. In addition, these lists get grey because people confuse the country's football and the country's football federation. In addition, it gets evey greyer in the cases like Brazil's who advanced to the QF in the last WC but out of its 23 players who were called up, only 3 played in the Brazilian league. I don't think anyone would dare to say that Brazil is not the maximum referent in football. IMO, these lists have to be analyzed by accomplishments, infrastructure and league's value.

    World Cup (WC):

    - Has a country won a WC?

    - When? Was it recently using its current format or like in the case of Uruguay which was 100 years ago when only 13 teams played (A team was already in the R16 just by showing up)?

    - Does a country consistently go to a WC and how far has it advanced?

    Youth Categories WC

    - Has a country won a Youth WC?

    - When? Was it recently using its current format or like in the case of Uruguay which was 100 years ago when only 13 teams played (A team was already in the R16 just by showing up)?

    - Does a country consistently go to a WC and how far has it advanced?

    Olympics:

    - Has a country won a gold medal?

    - When?

    Confederation Title (UEFA, CONCACAF, CONMEBOL, OFC, AFC...)

    - Has a country won a confederation title?

    - How many times?

    - How many teams participated? (Take the case of the earlier editions of the Copa America where only 3-4 teams would play - Argentina, Uruguay, Brazil and later Chile. A team was already a semi-finalist just by showing up)

    International Club competitions (Champions League, Copa Libertadores, Concacaf Champions League, OFC Champions League etc...)

    - How many times has a country's league won a international title?

    - Has a team participated in a Club World Cup or a version of it?


    Infrastructure (distant important factor)

    - Up to international standards?

    - Able to host international football events?

    Leagues value

    - How much is a league worth?

    - A club and national team value


    These lists are subjective and people have analyze this data. When people dont see their country on these lists, they interpret it as an attack on their country, culture, etc...I think that the Mexican league is behind the Spanish, English, Italian, French and German league in terms of accomplishments, infrastructure and worth.
     
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  19. LAFEFUT

    LAFEFUT Member+

    Mexico
    Mar 13, 2018
    Estoy algo de acuerdo con lo que dices.
     
  20. chivamex10

    chivamex10 Member+

    Mar 1, 2010
    your mom's house
    Club:
    CD Chivas de Guadalajara
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    Give me a list or get the fvck out.

    1-10.
     
  21. LaMascara

    LaMascara Member+

    Apr 11, 2013
    Club:
    Pachuca CF
    La liga
    Epl
    German ligue
    Italian ligue
    French ligue
    Portugal liga
    Brazil liga
    Argentina liga
    Liga Mx
    Eredevise
     
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  22. Miguel Myers

    Miguel Myers Member+

    Dec 3, 2011
    Club:
    Club América
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
  23. LAFEFUT

    LAFEFUT Member+

    Mexico
    Mar 13, 2018
    #8273 LAFEFUT, Oct 19, 2018
    Last edited: Oct 19, 2018
    1. La Liga
    2. EPL
    3. Bundesliga
    4. Serie A
    5. Campeonato Brasileiro Série A
    6. La Ligue
    7. La Liga MX
    8. Eredivisie
    9. Argentine
    10. Primeira Liga

    I find it funny when people try to squeeze the MLS in there. The MLS may have good infrastructure but in level of competition and/or especially accomplishments, it cant even win any version of anything against Mexico.

    Mexico is not the best team in the world but the statistics speak volumes. This is not about "I feel, I think, I believe", this is about statistical data.


    FIFA Confederations Cup:
    Mexico - 1 title
    USA - 0

    CONCACAF Gold cup and CONCACAF champion:
    Mexico - 10 title
    USA - 6 title

    CONCACAF Champions cup and CONCACAF Champions League:
    Mexico - 34
    USA - 2

    CONMEBOL Copa America record
    Mexico - 2 time runner up and 3x 3rd place (only participated 10 times)
    USA - 4th place 2 times


    Men's Olympic gold football:
    Mexico - 1 gold medal (against Brasil)
    USA - 0

    CONCACAF Men's Olympic Qualifying tournament:
    Mexico - 7 time winner
    USA - 2 time winner

    CONCACAF Sub 20 champions:
    Mexico - 13 titles
    USA - 1

    FIFA World cup Sub17 champions:
    Mexico - 2 titles
    USA - 0

    CONCACAF Sub 17 champions:
    Mexico - 7 titles
    USA - 3

    Sub 15:
    Mexico - 1
    USA - 0

    Sub 13:
    Mexico 1
    USA - 0
     
  24. Saldgotti1991

    Saldgotti1991 Member+

    Jun 7, 2011
    San Diego
    Club:
    CD Chivas de Guadalajara
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    But World Cup matches and friendliest post 2000. Those are the stats that matter.
     
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  25. LAFEFUT

    LAFEFUT Member+

    Mexico
    Mar 13, 2018
    So based on what your are saying, out of Brasil's 5 world cups and numerous other regional, international level titles, only the 2002 version of it matters and the rest of their work doesnt matter?

    World football has been shaped into what it is today in large part because of Argentine football.
     

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