Takefusa Tsubasa - The Official 久保 建英 Thread

You’re literally approaching this from a worst case scenario angle, Vini is a very likeable and humble kid I’m sure he’d be welcomed wherever he goes, especially when he’s helping them win.
In any case Vini going out on loan is very unlikely but I think it would be the best move for his career, in a real season we won’t be able to make 11 subs a game and I’m not sure if he is going to be one of the 3 ZidNe regularly calls on.

 

After 2 years of regular play time his game will be polished enough for him to challenge Hazard or anyone else for that left wing spot, my thing is I don’t see him getting the minutes necessary with us this upcoming season. I could be wrong of course.

 

Vinicius was our best winger last season. He also had his best game in Libertadores playing on the right. Let's not come to conclusions just based on few pre-season games when he had a long injury layoff as well. If we loan out Vinicius with average joes like Lucas getting more minutes, this club is getting attracted to mediocrity more and more. Asensio is injured. Rodrygo and Brahim are even more inexperienced. Loaning Vinicius is the last thing I'd consider now.

 

Villarreal was just an example, I’m sure there could better suitors but my priority is that he gets as much playing time as possible.
You talk about him being a borderline Brazil international, well he’ll stay on the border forever if he isn’t playing regularly.

He is not a Brazil international?

 

Is this the Vinicius thread? Based on the previous few posts I had to double check the thread title.

 

Based on seen i would use Vin and Kubo as first rotations.

 

Sending Vin on a loan after last year would be highly underwhelming. Besides, we don`t have enough personnel to support it. Hazard, Benzema, Jović, Lucas. That would be it in case of Vin loan.

 

Apparently everyone is highly impressed with Kubo but his problem is the lack of non-EU spots available.

 

Kubo and Rodrygo will alternating between Castilla and the first team as well.
Ideally Vinicius will stay of course but if that means he gets scrap minutes on the right wing I don’t know, not sure how much that helps his development as opposed to getting serious minutes in his best position at a different club.

 

He's superb, seems like he can already be of (substantial) value to the first team squad. He already plays like a fairly experienced player!

 

I think he should be brought into the squad slowly. When I said "slowly", I meant at the end of the group stage of the CL or the winter break. Thee is no urgency to put him on the spotlight.I will not be upset if Zidane sends him on loan, but given his age, he probably should stay with Castilla to learn about Real Madrid.

This should be a cut and paste post for the Rodrygo's thread.

 

I think he's ready to be thrown out there. He should be Modric's sub.

 

He looks ready to be a part of the first squad (as a bench option or even a starter the way some are playing currently) I don't like it when coaches say "he's still young, so we take things slowly" when a player is good to go it doesn't matter what age he is. You can still take things slowly with him in the first team (give him more leeway when he makes mistakes, give him more time to recuperate, don't make it such a big deal when he loses form.....not exactly a thing in our team anyway )

So far he has looked like one of our best players in the pre-season, how can you then choose 'worse' options over him? You choose your best team, if that includes a 10 year old, then so be it. You don't look at a player's age, but at his performance. And so far he has been one of the few shining lights in our squad.

This is 2020 vision obviously, because who could know Kubo was this advanced before the pre-season: but knowing that, I would have preferred that Valverde got sent out on loan as he does still "only" look like a talent and we kept Llorente, freeing up a non-EU spot for either Rodrygo or Kubo.

As it stands now, Valverde looks like a very 'expensive' (not in terms of price) non-EU spot, while it would be a 'waste' to let Kubo play for Castilla.

 

I think that Valverde issue is solved in September though (expectation is that he will then receive his passport), or at least that's what I thought. So that shouldn't be a big problem for now. It will be a bit of a problem in the coming years though, as we have Militao, VJ, Rodrygo and Kubo taking the non-EU spot.

Maybe I've missed something though.

 

We should have loaned Valverde and kept Llorente for 1 season. We didn't plan the non-EU thing properly.

 

I don't think Llorente wanted to be a sub anymore. At the very least he probably wanted much more minutes and he wasn't getting that with us unless his name is Lucas Vazquez.

 

That wouldn't have solved the problem though, right (assuming Valverde gets his 'EU ticket' this September, as has been suggested here)? Because we'd still have 4 non-EU players in Rodrygo, Militao, Kubo and VJ. One of the aforementioned players (basically meaning, Rodrygo) will have to be loaned out for the 2020/21 season, if Kubo keeps impressing.

 

If Valverde gets his passport in Sep, it would be already too late to resgister any of the other youngsters.

 

After watching Valverde yet again, i still don`t understand the hype he gets. Should have been loaned out.

Could have easily had this personnel: Casemiro, Llorente, Modrić, Pogback, Eriksen, James, Kubo. Instead we have this: Casemiro, Kroos, Modrić, Isco, Valverde.

 

You’re judging Valverde based on his first game back in pre season? Dude.

Problem might that you and others who don’t seem to rate Fede expect him to be a player he isn’t.