News: Surinamese campaign direction WC 2018 or 2022

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  1. Surisoccer

    Surisoccer Member

    Jan 17, 2009
    Rotterdam
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    Surinam
    PARAMARIBO, Suriname (CMC):

    Draft legislation has been introduced into Suriname's parliament, designed to help the country qualify for the 2018 FIFA World Cup in Russia.

    The dual nationality legislation aims to change the law to facilitate players born in Suriname who play professional football overseas, but cannot represent their country.

    The initiative is part of a project dubbed 'Suriname en route to 2018' and already 25 players have been announced, who, if the dual nationality legislation gets passed, would be eligible to play for the national team.

    "If the dual nationality law does get approved, we are playing in the World Championships in Russia in 2018," declared John Krishnadath, chairman of Suriname's Football Association (SVB).

    "We will own one of the four spots of the Confederation of North, Central American and Caribbean Association Football (CONCACAF)."

    Football talent from Suriname has featured prominently in international football with the likes of Clarence Seedorf, Edgar Davids, Patrick Kluivert, Frank Rijkaard and Ruud Gullit, an elite quintet that helped the Netherlands claim 12 European Cups among the names.

    Suriname, however, have never qualified for a World Cup with its best effort being a berth in the final group stage of qualifying for the 1978 tournament.

    There are more than 100 Surinamese players in the Dutch professional leagues, but none of their overseas professionals are eligible to represent their country.

    Suriname's footballers cannot play for the national team once they assume a different nationality.
     
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  2. Brokostong

    Brokostong New Member

    Jan 17, 2009
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    Surinam
    I already knew about this subject.Glad with it.Moreover it also must be approved.When will it happen??
     
  3. Surisoccer

    Surisoccer Member

    Jan 17, 2009
    Rotterdam
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    Surinam
    I've heard somewhere in january or february this new year.It is on the agenda of the National Assembly and opposition and coalition are positive about this bill,but they still need to agree with each other about the content of that bill.

    SVB chairman John Krishnadath Has indicated that politicians must act quickly,he will then be able to schedule official friendlies.So i hope that those politicians will listen to his urgent call.There is no time to lose,i've noticed that the qualifying battle for WC2018 begins in june or july?Actually, time too short, now everything must be done hastily,i seriously ask myself if the SVB can put together a good team in such a short time.Actually, this can be blamed on politics,they are very late to put this bill finally on the agenda.
     
  4. Surinamese-man

    Aug 20, 2008
    Club:
    --other--
    I remember that we have discussed this issue years ago.I think it was in 2009 if i'm not wrong.Many years have passed away and those politicians did nothing to help the SVB and Louis Giskus did nothing to develop and to bring football on a higher level.
     
  5. Surisoccer

    Surisoccer Member

    Jan 17, 2009
    Rotterdam
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    Surinam
    Yeah..that's right.But maybe those politicians had different things on their mind and i think dual citizenship was a case that had no priority for them.But now it has been given the highest priority.

    What Louis Giskus concerns,he is no longer chairman of the SVB.Thank god he was not elected again,so now it's John Krishnadath and he is very serious to build something solid.He has also put pressure on those politicians by giving them the proposal and everyone has received a copy.So there is no way back.Those political leaders can't deny this for ever,the Surinamese people demand it from the government.That was clearly demonstrated by a full Andre Kamperveen stadium with thousands and thousands of people who saw Natio/Suriprofs vs WConnection.And that after a period for more than 40 years ago.So those politicians are convinced by the fact that something has to be done,they are very seriously busy to deal with this matter.
     
  6. Brokostong

    Brokostong New Member

    Jan 17, 2009
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    Surinam
    There are rumors that Suriname will play a friendly match against Bolivia,Belgium,Morocco or Chili.I couldn't find anything to verify this.Do any of you know something about this?
     
  7. Surisoccer

    Surisoccer Member

    Jan 17, 2009
    Rotterdam
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    Surinam
    If so,it would be my preference to play a friendly against Chili or Belgium.But i don't know if this is true,it's not official (yet).We'd better wait until the SVB comes with an official message.It can be incorrect.
     
  8. Surisoccer

    Surisoccer Member

    Jan 17, 2009
    Rotterdam
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    Surinam
    Well guys,it will be Anguilla or Nicaragua.We need to look at our players abroad which of them are active in European leagues.Because with only local based players,it's already a lost campaign.There is a list but we must update that list.
     
  9. Brokostong

    Brokostong New Member

    Jan 17, 2009
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    Surinam
    Here is a list of Surinamese players in Dutch and other European Leagues.I've updated the list from Natio com.

    Suriprofs Attackers/Strikers

    1st Division Eredivisie

    - Jarchinio Antonia (FC Groningen)
    - Sheraldo Becker (PEC Zwolle)
    - Anthony Berenstein (FC Utrecht)
    - Steven Bergwijn (PSV)
    - Jean-Paul Boëtius (Feyenoord)
    - Enzio Boldewijn (Almere City FC)
    - Ellery Cairo (AGOW Apeldoorn 2012)-No club at the moment
    - Alvin Daniels (FC Twente)
    - Romano Denneboom (DHC Delft)
    - Darl Douglas (End his football career)
    - Guyon Fernandez (NAC Breda)
    - Giovanni Gravenbeek (NEC)
    - Dammyano Grootfaam (NEC)
    - Ryan Hiwat (PSV)
    - Florian Jozefzoon (PSV)
    - Gyrano Kerk (FC Utrecht)
    - Ricardo Kishna (Ajax)
    - Justin Kluivert (Ajax)
    - Ramon Leeuwin (FC Utrecht)
    - Queensy Menig (Ajax)
    - Furdjel Narsingh (SC Cambuur)
    - Luciano Narsingh (PSV)
    - Terell Ondaan (Willem II)
    - Romario Sabajo (SV Lienden)
    - Gregory Schaken (RVVH)
    - Mitchell Schet (ADO Den Haag)
    - Gerson Sheotahul (FC Volendam)
    - Luciano Slagveer (SC Heerenveen)
    - Genaro Snijders (FC Oss)
    - Rafael Uiterloo (FC Lienden)
    - Achille Vaarnold (AZ)
    - Arsenio Valpoort (RKC Waalwijk)
    - Mitchell te Vrede (Feyenoord)
    - Felitciano Zschusschen (FC Dordrecht)
    - Dion Malone (ADO Den Haag)
    - Mikhail Rosheuvel (AZ))
    - Ernesto Seymonson (last known club FC Emmen)
    - Berry Powel (Roda JC )
    - Andwelé Slory (FC Dordrecht)
    - Gyliano van Velzen (FC Utrecht)
    - Marvin Wijks (FC Emmen but stopped with pro football,plays amateur league Rijnburgse Boyz)

    2nd Division Jupiler League


    - Jamal Cruden (Telstar)
    - Charles Dissels (Alemere city FC)
    - Malcolm Esajas (ADO Den Haag)
    - Reginald Faria (Almere City FC)
    - Melvin Grootfaam (Telstar)
    - Marvin Hasselbaink (Almere City FC)
    - Giovanni Hiwat (Sparta Rotterdam)
    - Melvin Holwijn (Telstar)
    - Diego Karg (Telstar)
    - Ingmar Maayen (Telstar)
    - Levi Marengo (Telstar)
    - Ludcinio Marengo (FC Volendam)
    - Damien Menzo (FC Volendam)
    - Ibad Muhamadu (FC Dordrecht-SV Spakenburg)
    - Sergio Parris (Telstar)
    - Shane Parris (FC Oss)
    - Gilbrano Plet (Almere City FC)
    - Iwan Redan (Ended his football career)
    - Sidney Schmeltz (Ended his football Career)
    - Arsenio Snijders (Almere City FC)
    - Marciano Vermeer (FC Oss)
    - Mark de Vries (SC Cambuur)
    - Melvin Zaalman (Sparta Rotterdam)

    Other European leagues and the rest of the world

    - Giovanni Andjole (Texas Dutch Lions FC) USA
    - Ryan Babel (Kasimpasa) - Turkey
    - Kiran Bechan (Last known club Atiraw FK) - Kazachstan
    - Diego Biseswar (Kayserispor) - Turkey
    - Romeo Castelen (Western Sydney Wanderers) - Australia
    - Sylvano Comvalius (Dynamo Dresden) - Germany
    - Donovan Deekman (Naft Tehran FC) - Iran
    - Eljero Elia (Southampton FC) - England
    - Urby Emanuelson (Roma) Italy
    - Marvin Emnes (Swansea City FC) - England
    - Aidan Gorré (Manchester United??) - England
    - Kenji Gorré (Swansea City??) - England
    - Guillano Grot (FC Inter Turku but now playing amateur VV Duno NL) - Finland
    - Nigel Hasselbaink (PAE Veria) - Greece
    - Leandro Kappel (Panetolikos) - Greece
    - Samuel Koejoe (DAC Dunajská Streda Slovakia but turn back to SV Reute) - Austria
    - Mitchell Landburg (KV Turnhout??) - Belgium
    - Lionel Lord (VC Eendracht Aalst,but ended his football career) - Belgium
    - Sherjill MacDonald (KVC Westerloo) - Belgium
    - Gregory Nelson (Metallurg Donetsk) - Ukraine
    - Maceo Rigters (Gold Coast United) - England
    - Marvin Zeegelaar (Rion Ave FC) - Portugal
    - Sergio Zijler (NK Zelina,stoped pro league,now amateur league Achilles 29 in the NL) - Croatia
    - Giovanni Cairo (FK SlavojTrebisov) - Slovakia
    - Geoffrey Castillion (FC Universitatea Clui) - Romania
    - Lorenzo Ebecilio (Mordovia Saransk) - Russia
    - Leroy George (FK Qarabag) - Azerbaijan
    - Danzell Gravenberch (Universitatea Cluj) - Romania
    - Jeremain Lens (FC Dynamo Kiev) - Ukraine
    - Darren Maatsen (Ross Country FC) - Scotland
    - Glynor Plet (FC Zulte Waregem) - Belgium
    - Rydell Poepon (Velenciennes FC ) - France
    - Quincy Promes (Spartak Moskow) Russia
    - Ruben Schaken (FK Inter Bakoe) - Azerbaijan
    - Damiano Schet (AEK Larnaca) - Cyprus
    - Género Zeefuik (Heart of Midlothian FC) - Scotland
    - Furhgill Zeldenrust (Dynamo Dresden) - Germany
    - Romario Kortzorg (Botev Plovdiv) - Bulgaria
    - Virgil Misidjan (PFK Ludogorets) - Bulgaria

    Surinamese Football players in red are not eligible to play for the Surinamese NT anymore.So this is the first list.I will update the list with midfielders and defenders these days.If there are inaccuracies,let me know.
     
  10. Brokostong

    Brokostong New Member

    Jan 17, 2009
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    Surinam
    Suriprofs midfielders

    1st Division Eredivisie

    - Kelvin Leerdam (Vitesse)
    - Roland Alberg (ADO Den haag)
    - Gregor Breinburg (NEC)
    - Tjaronn Chery (FC Groningen)
    - Orlando Engelaar (FC Twente)
    - Kenneth Paal (PSV)
    - Ryan Koolwijk (FC Dordrecht)
    - Raies Roshanali (AZ)
    - Fabian Sporkslede (Willem II)
    - Jordy Strooker (SV Spakenburg)
    - Kevin Wattamaleo (FC Volendam)
    - Georginio Wijnaldum (PSV)
    - Giovanno Gödeken (FC Dordrecht)
    - Jergé Hoefdraad (Almere City FC)
    - Kyle Ebecilio (FC Twente)

    2nd Division Jupiler League

    - Gino Felixdaal (Almere City FC)
    - Jergé Hoefdraad (Telstar)
    - Melvin Kolf (AFC Arnhem)
    - Joey Lokasi (Willem II)
    - Brian Pinas (Ended his football career)
    - Calvin Valies (Telstar)
    - Vinnie Vermeer (NAC)

    Other European leagues and the rest of the world

    - Soeris Baidjoe (Mopertingen) - Belgium
    - Nicandro Breeveld (Steaua Bukarest) - Romania
    - Edgar Davids (Last club Barnet FC,ended his football career) - England
    - Lorenzo Davids (Randers) - Denmark
    - Luciano Dompig (Akritas Chlorakas) - Cyprus
    - Royston Drenthe (Reading FC) - England
    - Pascal Heije (Bali Devada FC,runs his own football scool) - Indonesia
    - Sergio Hellings (No club at the moment,last known club KSV Roeselare) - Belgium
    - Nigel de Jong (AC Milan) - Italy
    - Rajiv van La Parra (Wolverhampton) - England
    - Anduele Pryor (no club at the moment,last known club Bayern Munchen) - Germany
    - Lorenzo Rimkus (PSIM Jogjakarta) - Indonesia
    - Chedric Seedorf (last club AC Monza Brianza Italy,plays for SV The Brothers SVB Hoofdklasse) - Suriname
    - Clarence Seedorf (last known club Botafogo FR,former coach AC Milan) - Brazil
    - Regilio Seedorf (Gandzasar Kapan premier League) - Armenia
    - Stefano Seedorf (Alecrim FC) - Brasil
    - Xavi Simons (FC Barcelona,very talented young footballplayer) - Spain
    - Mitchell Donald (FK Mordovia Saransk) - Russia
    - Leroy Fer (Queenspark Rangers) - England
    - Evander Sno (KVC Westerloo) - Belgium
    - Etiënne Esajas (Scunthorpe United FC) - England

    Surinamese Football players in red are not eligible to play for the Surinamese NT.So this is the second list with midfield footballplayers.There are a lot more youngsters,but they are not ready yet for pro leagues.It also may be that i've forgotten more players.
     
  11. Brokostong

    Brokostong New Member

    Jan 17, 2009
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    Surinam
    Suriprofs Defenders

    1st Division Eredivisie

    - Delano A Cohen (Last known club Almere City FC,plays now for BVV Barendrecht)
    - Djavan Anderson (AZ) - Is half Surinamese/Jamaican
    - Lorenzo Burnet (FC Groningen)
    - Juan van Dorpel (SC Heerenveen to Watergraafsmeer??)
    - Purrel Fränkel (last known club De Graafschap,plays now for club W Duno)
    - Cerezo Fung a Wing (De Graafschap,contract ended)
    - Ridgeciano Haps (AZ)
    - Milano Koenders (Heracles Almelo)
    - Diego Liefden (last known club ADO Den Haag,plays now for RKSV Leonidas)
    - Ruben Ligeon (Ajax)
    - Dalian Maatsen (MVV Maastricht)
    - Gevero Markiet (FC Utrecht)
    - Miquel Nelom (Feyenoord)
    - Norichio Nieveld (FC Eindhoven)
    - Enrico Patrick (SC Heerenveen to AFC Amsterdam??)
    - Lorenzo Piqué (last known club FC OSS)
    - Mitchell Piqué (last club Willen II,ended his football career)
    - Rewien Ramlal (RKC Waalwijk)
    - Jairo Riedewald (Ajax)
    - Darren Rosheuvel (last known club Ajax,plays now for young FC Utrecht))
    - Ricardo Samoender (last known club FC Dordrecht)
    - Shaquill Sno (Ajax)
    - Ferne Snoyl (No club at the moment,last club was Ujpest FC II Bulgaria)
    - Giliano Wijnaldum (Go Ahead Eagles)
    - Darryl Lachman (FC Twente)
    - Calvin MacIntosh (SC Cambuur)
    - Donovan Slijngard (SC Cambuur)
    - Jeffrey Bruma (PSV)
    - Gianni Zuiverloon (ADO Den haag)

    2nd Division Jupiler League

    - Bowedee Burleson (FC Volendam)
    - Ridny Cairo (last known club FC Dordrecht)
    - Anthony Correia (Telstar)
    - Raoul Esseboom (FC Volendam)
    - Gautam Kalpoe (last known club FC Sparta,plays now for club Young Almere City FC)
    - Geoffrey Meye (no club at the moment)
    - Cendrino Misidjan (no club at the moment,last known club was CSKA Sofia Bulgaria)
    - Jerold Promes (VVV Venlo)
    - Juremy Reker (last known club FC Eindhoven)
    - Iljaas Rodjan (last known club Egersunds IK Norway,no club at the moment)
    - Djeston Roosblad (Almere City FC??)
    - Randy Rustenberg (FC Emmen)
    - Collin Seedorf (last known club RKC Waalwijk,plays now for young Brabant United)
    - Etienne Shew-Atjon (last known club FC Dordrecht,plays now for W Smitshoek)
    - Stanley Tailor (AGOVV Apeldoorn)
    - Daniël Zuiverloon (Last known club Telstar,plays now for OFC Oostzaan)
    - Steve Olfers (SC Telstar)
    - Hesdey Suart (FC DVS)

    Other European leagues and the rest of the world

    - Edson Braafheid (SS Lazio) - Italy
    - Marciano Bruma (last known club Lech Poznań) - Poland
    - Jürgen Colin (Hapoel Tel Aviv FC) - Israel
    - Ryan Donk (Kasimpasa) - Turkey
    - Ray Fränkel (last known club FC Antwerpen,plays now for SV Transvaal Suriname ) - Suriname
    - Serginho Greene (AEK Larnaca) - Cyprus
    - Arsenio Halfhuid (Aston Villa) - England
    - Calvin Jong-A-Pin (Shimizu S-Pulse) - Japan
    - Kelvin Maynard (Burton Albion FC) - England
    - Mario Melchiot (UMM-Salal FC Qatar,he ended his football career) - Qatar
    - Sigourney Bandjar (Taraz FK) - Kazakhstan
    - Stefano Denswil (Club Brugge) - Belgium
    - Virgil van Dijk (Celtic FC) - Scotland
    - Kew Jaliens (Newcastle United Jets) - Australia
    - Dwight Tiendalli (Swansea Cty) - Wales
    - Mitchell Burgzorg (Slavia Sofia) - Bulgaria
    - Touvarno Pinas (Maccabi Netanya) - Irsael

    And then we have 2 professional players from Suriname Stefano Rijsel and Dimitri Apai.Both are playing for WConnection Trinidad & Tabago Pro League.There are more players who play in American leagues but that would take too much time to find them.Players in red are not eligible to play for the Surinamese NT.
     
  12. edcalvi

    edcalvi Moderator
    Staff Member

    Atlético Madrid
    May 1, 2005
    Nevada
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    Any updates?
     
  13. Brokostong

    Brokostong New Member

    Jan 17, 2009
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    Surinam
    Well,we are still waiting for more information from the Surinamese government and the Surinamese Federation.As soon as we have more information,we will bring you guys up to date.
     
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  14. Surisoccer

    Surisoccer Member

    Jan 17, 2009
    Rotterdam
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    Surinam
    Unfortunately, the dual nationality will not be introduced by the Surinamese government.Apparently they want to wait until after the political elections.And then it will be too late to use players from abroad.Sorry guys, we had hoped that the Surinamese politics would cooperate, but it is delayed.So the SVB has no choice to work with local amateur players again.And because of this,it's not realistic anymore for Suriname to have a chance to reach the WC in Russia.

    The only positive news i have is that Dean Roberto Gorre will be the new coach.Dean was a youth coach of the Scottish Football Association.Furthermore he has played in numerous Dutch professional clubs.Dean says that he will do his best,but he knows he can not accomplish much with the local players.
     
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  15. slaminsams

    slaminsams Member+

    Mar 22, 2010

    Seems like the effort should really be on improving the domestic league anyway. A&B managed to turn things around by creating one club that played in the American 3rd division last cycle. It doesn't take much to become more competitive in this region
     
  16. Surinamese-man

    Aug 20, 2008
    Club:
    --other--
    What the hell is wrong with those politicians?Now i ask myself,do they realy ike football or not?Christ jesus i'm getting tired of this.The SVB had great plans and look what they are doing again.Seems like nothing is going to happen,it's very frustrating for those players who want to play for Suriname.When will the government ever realize that this is enough???When I'm dead and burried????
     
  17. Surisoccer

    Surisoccer Member

    Jan 17, 2009
    Rotterdam
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    Surinam
    Well,the Surinamese FA has also plans to invest in the local leagues.They want a similar professional system like Trinidad & Tabago,so it means that they want to professionalize atleast 8 clubs from what i've heard last month ago.So we hope to hear more about this in the future.The Surinamese FA wants to get rid of the old amateur system
     
  18. Tio Nicci

    Tio Nicci Member+

    Nov 13, 2008
    Houston, Texas
    Club:
    Deportivo Cali
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Pity, would of been nice. Sorry to eavesdrop but the subject caught my attention. I was always interested in these countries that are on South American mainland
     
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  19. Surisoccer

    Surisoccer Member

    Jan 17, 2009
    Rotterdam
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    Surinam
    Thanks for ur comment.Those Surinamese politicians still don't realize how important it is to bring football on a higher level in the country.They have much to learn about the importance of sport, especially for the youth and how it can bring economic benefits.Seems like they are afraid for something and we don't know what it is and why.
     
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  20. EstebanLugo

    EstebanLugo Member

    Mar 18, 2007
    N of your DB
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
  21. SetPeace

    SetPeace Member+

    Jun 22, 2004
    SC Illinois
    Club:
    Torquay United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I agree that the process to allow players with Surinamese roots to play for the National Team is long overdue. I think Suriname has the potential to be a stalwart among CFU squads once incorporation is approved. Even if such a law were approved a few months ago, I think Suriname challenging for a 2018 World Cup berth is overly optimistic. Qualifying in 2022 may even be a stretch. If Suriname consistently challenges for a spot in the Gold Cup in 2017, 2019, and 2021, then we can honestly say their full potential is starting to be realized. It's much easier for a CFU side to to compete for 4 spots in the Gold Cup than it is for them to become one of only 3 or 4 CONCACAF teams to make the World Cup.
     
  22. Surisoccer

    Surisoccer Member

    Jan 17, 2009
    Rotterdam
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    Surinam
    We lost against Nicaragua with 1-3 but i didn't expect much with only those local players.Dean Gorre has done everything he could.Mission for 2018 is over,i hope that the Surinamese president finally realizes that something must be done about the dual citizenship.He was even there to watch that game,he should be ashamed!

    Sorry guys,we must focus on 2022 and Caribbean en Gold cups.
     
  23. Tio Nicci

    Tio Nicci Member+

    Nov 13, 2008
    Houston, Texas
    Club:
    Deportivo Cali
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    I was rooting for them against Nicaragua. Hopefully some politics get resolved soon. Would love to see them play with a Dutch squad in the next time
     
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  24. Surinamese-man

    Aug 20, 2008
    Club:
    --other--
    #24 Surinamese-man, Jun 22, 2015
    Last edited: Jun 22, 2015
    Well atleast there is some good news (it's too late,but better too late then never).The president gave his statement.He said "We will do everything to help the SVB to put back our football quality on top.I do realize that something must be done and we will discuss this in politics"

    The director of the Surinamese Football Association has consulted with the president.One important topic was about the Surinamese legislation that makes it impossible for Surinamese players outside to play for their country.

    Well it's very nice mr. president,but you are waayyyy to late!!But anyway,let's see what will happen.Seeing is believing because i heard too much nice story's,it's just enough!

    [​IMG]

    I mean,look at him.He saw that last match against Nicaragua with his Surinamese footballshirt.Do what you gotta do mr. president no more waiting!
     
  25. Edo14

    Edo14 New Member

    Jun 30, 2015
    Club:
    Athletic Club Bilbao
    Hi guys, very interesting topic.
    I'd like to understand well why suriname-born players or players of surinamese origin cannot play for the national team; I know only that there's a law that prohibit it, but I cannot understand the reason why. Is it Holland that doesn't want to give back players or is it the surinamese federation that doesn't want them for a matter of pride? Or are there some clashes between federations? Thank you a lot!
     
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