Super Y growing?

Discussion in 'Youth & HS Soccer' started by CornfieldSoccer, Mar 14, 2018.

  1. CornfieldSoccer

    Aug 22, 2013
    Anyone know if Super Y seems to be growing and, if so, how strong the teams are it seems to be adding?

    My son played last summer and will again this summer so we get regular emails, about half of which are press releases announcing new teams (oddly, the league doesn't seem to put them on its website, so part of the text of one of that came today is below).

    If it is growing (and not just adding teams as it loses others), any idea what's driving it? Is this just what Super Y generally does?

    The list of clubs (prior to the announcement below, I think) is here: https://www.sylsoccer.com/clubs

    And part of that email:

    SYL Unveils Southwest Division, Founding Clubs
    Five clubs set to begin play in 2018 as league expands to West Coast

    TAMPA, Fla. – After previously announcing the launch of an upcoming Southern California-based division, the Super Y League is proud to announce the all-new Southwest Division, along with five founding member clubs, set to begin play in 2018.

    “The Super Y League couldn’t be more thrilled to grow into the Southern California region with the introduction of our Southwest Division,” said Christian Velasquez, Director of the Super Y League. “After pushing West with the Mid South Division last year, the addition of the Southwest Division grows the Super Y League on the national stage. We are excited to see the five new member clubs compete at the SYL Finals in the future.”

    Competing in the Southwest Division will be five clubs who become founding members of the league’s new West Coast presence: the Oceanside Breakers, Rebels SC, BYSC Corona United, FRAM and the Fullerton Rangers.
     
  2. VolklP19

    VolklP19 Member

    Jun 23, 2010
    Illinois
    I sort of see this as a way small clubs are trying to measure up to the bigger clubs by offering more programming. It's also a way to retain players because they have to commit to Fall/Spring earlier then normal.

    Not sure of the play but parents I have spoke with are making a big deal. But I think that's because they think they are big league - playing in the summer and all.

    "We play year round now"

    LOL
     
  3. bigredfutbol

    bigredfutbol Moderator
    Staff Member

    Sep 5, 2000
    Woodbridge, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I don't know anything about current state of Super Y so I really can't opine.

    My son played a couple (I think it was only two) years of Super Y when he was in middle school. It was fun, a chance to play full-sided soccer over the summer with a different mix of players, travel a bit without parents. That's really all I know.

    I honestly had thought it had pretty faded away, so the fact that it's still around and maybe even growing is interesting, to me anyway. :)
     
  4. CornfieldSoccer

    Aug 22, 2013

    Interesting to me for the same reasons. I'm curious about what's driving that growth and whether it amounts to some kind of resurgence for Super Y.

    I've written elsewhere here about my son doing it last summer and again this coming summer -- it was a mixed bag for a lot of kids we know, but mine got a lot out of it, played for a good coach on a reasonably competitive team. ...

    Volk's assessment isn't far off of what the group my son is part of has in mind -- the teams are a blend of kids from five mid-size clubs, who see it as a way to offer more soccer and a summer option that's pretty different from the typical club fare (most kids will play for coaches not from their own clubs, and play teams they don't for the most part don't typically see).
     
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  5. bigredfutbol

    bigredfutbol Moderator
    Staff Member

    Sep 5, 2000
    Woodbridge, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'm a big fan of playing a lot when younger, particular if the level of competition isn't too high, at least all the time. Super Y didn't "matter" when my son played it (in the eyes of his club coach) and the team was probably a step down, and in retrospect I think that's a good thing.
     
  6. VolklP19

    VolklP19 Member

    Jun 23, 2010
    Illinois
    #6 VolklP19, Dec 18, 2018
    Last edited: Dec 18, 2018
    We are doing Super Y this summer. The way I see it is that I already know the coaches and I am very happy with them - as is my daughter.

    Secondly for less then the cost of a 4 day summer camp, my kids getting 3 training sessions per week and regional games - which follows the format of MRL. We like this because we also enjoy visiting museums and other "stuff" on these weekends and to do this in the Summer makes it even better.

    Should also be interesting - we are playing up an age and along side some other players from about 4 other clubs.

    So IMO - I think if you are looking to do a camp - this has way better value.

    Plus my kids really excited which makes it nice as well :D
     
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  7. SpiceBoy

    SpiceBoy Member

    Barcelona
    United States
    Aug 2, 2017
    I wish I could say the growth is for the right reason like Volk above (extra touches, low cost, summer fun, etc), but I think it may be growing because clubs see it as an easy "national championship" for clubs to market to parents who do not know any better. Clubs can post about how they have teams playing for a national championship and parents will eat it up.
    It seems like in our area (midwest) 2-3 years ago clubs were selling the extra touches and fun, now they are marketing 'national championship" and "top teams in the country"
     
  8. VolklP19

    VolklP19 Member

    Jun 23, 2010
    Illinois
    #8 VolklP19, Dec 20, 2018
    Last edited: Dec 20, 2018
    I do not disagree.

    I think for a Summer league a regional title is about as far as it should go. Again - it's all how realistic and educated parents are. I don't think many look at it as just extra time on the ball and some decent games. The National Chapmionship is part of the marketing but it does help in terms of recruiting. Whether it is responsible to push money into a National Championship is subjective. I'm in the opinion that 99% of teams do not need to travel more then an hour to get their asses handed to them.

    Of course I'll stress the travel and other "fun" stuff that can be had over the summer that necessarily does not have to do with soccer.

    For example there is a straight line from Kalamazoo up to Ludington where a family can visit an incredible state park, get some of the best thin crust pizza (Chuck Wagon), watch the SS Badger Drop her anchor and more.

    On the way home you can hit the beach at Warren Dunes, Driers Meat Market in Three Oaks and then dinner at the Stray Dog in New Buffalo before mixng it up in traffic on the way home.

    LOL and if the time is right there is also Krazy Kaplans (I like to blow shit up!)
     
  9. CornfieldSoccer

    Aug 22, 2013
    The group of clubs downstate that my son played with last summer and the one before that, as far as I could tell, pitched this as a place to play and train over the summer, work with different coaches than those you typically see, ... I don't think any of us were under any delusions (well, not many of us ...) that our ad hoc teams were going to win some mythical national championship.

    My son will almost certainly skip Super Y this summer as he enters high school and goes through summer practices there for the first time (our fingers are crossed that they'll try to play passable soccer). I wouldn't mind him doing it again in future years, though.

    Volk: Ludington's great. We didn't hit it on our one Super Y trek to Kalamazoo, but we should have. Those two or three travel weekends a summer were a lot of fun, either way. Rare time for just my son and I, on the road, ...
     
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  10. Neko975

    Neko975 New Member

    Red Star
    Serbia
    Jul 4, 2018
    Don't forget that teams are using Super Y to recruit players also. My source from OBSC tells me that this is the main reason for them to play Super Y because they were losing players to the teams that competed in the summer.
     

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