Structure of Modern Football Competitions

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  1. PuckVanHeel

    PuckVanHeel Member+

    Oct 4, 2011
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    Feyenoord
  2. PuckVanHeel

    PuckVanHeel Member+

    Oct 4, 2011
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    Feyenoord
    #27 PuckVanHeel, Dec 3, 2018
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  3. PuckVanHeel

    PuckVanHeel Member+

    Oct 4, 2011
    Club:
    Feyenoord
    @peterhrt

    Two things:

    I'm not his very greatest fan but this is a good article and observation:



    This is bizarre, and relates to the earlier FFP things of this thread:

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/spor...d18dfb7b084_story.html?utm_term=.f8d4b55a5472

    http://www.espn.com/soccer/paris-sa...ng-uefa-executive-committee-despite-ffp-probe


    As the sports presenter said here: it is like Al Capone running the judicial department, Shell Corporation the office for the tax revenue collection.

    The Spanish league (itself not a beacon of good governance perse, see the first page) have protested, but, for example, the (always powerful) Germans have already publicly communicated they will support him.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/spor...ory.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.ddecaaddd6fc

    https://sport.sky.de/fussball/artik...l-khelaifi-ins-exekutivkomitee/11628529/33896


    #licensetocheat #lawsarefortheperiphery
     
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  4. peterhrt

    peterhrt Member

    Oct 21, 2015
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    Leeds United AFC
    When deciding whether or not to watch a game, a neutral might well ask two questions. Does the result matter, and is it in doubt. If one answer is no, there is a fair chance the game will go unwatched. If both answers are no, then most folk will surely prefer to spend the time doing something else. Especially when dodgy dealings get reported.

    Below is a list by decade of the major leagues where one club claimed at least half the league titles. Current Big Four European leagues in bold. From this it would appear there has always been a certain lack of competitiveness, and that it accelerated during the 1990s.

    1950s: Honved 5, Rapid Vienna 5, Sporting Lisbon 5, Red Star Belgrade 5, Rangers 5, River Plate 5, Nacional 5, Peñarol 5

    1960s: Real Madrid 8, Benfica 8, Santos 8, Peñarol 7, Anderlecht 6, Dukla Prague 5

    1970s: Celtic 7, Benfica 6, Real Madrid 5, Juventus 5, Borussia Mönchengladbach 5, Ajax 5, Malmö 5, Peñarol 5, Cerro Porteño 5

    1980s: Olimpia 7, Liverpool 6, Bayern Munich 6, Real Madrid 5, Benfica 5, Sparta Prague 5, Steau Bucharest 5, América Cali 5

    1990s: Rangers 9, Porto 8, Dynamo Kiev 8 (7 Ukraine + 1 USSR), Sparta Prague 8, Spartak Moscow 7, Barcelona 6, Steau Bucharest 6, Gothenburg 6, Peñarol 6, Colo Colo 6 (out of 11), AC Milan 5, Manchester United 5, Ajax 5, Galatasaray 5, Partizan Belgrade 5, Olimpia 5

    2000-09: Olimpiacos 9, Lyon 7, PSV Eindhoven 7, Sparta Prague 7, Manchester United 6, Bayern Munich 6, Porto 6, Celtic 6, Dynamo Kiev 6, Dinamo Zagreb 6, Nacional 6, Libertad 6 (out of 12), Anderlecht 5, Red Star Belgrade 5, Partizan Belgrade 5

    2010-18: Dinamo Zagreb 8, Bayern Munich 7, Juventus 7, Celtic 7, Shakhtar Donetsk 7, Olimpiacos 7, Red Bull Salzburg, Peñarol 7, Barcelona 6, PSG 5, Benfica 5, Anderlecht 5, Malmö 5, Viktoria Pizeň 5
     
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  5. PuckVanHeel

    PuckVanHeel Member+

    Oct 4, 2011
    Club:
    Feyenoord
    Here an article from two months ago (if direct access doesn't work, type in the title/link in search engine):
    https://www.economist.com/game-theo...ying-footballs-administrators-into-submission

    Recently one of the co-founders of the European Cup died:
    https://www.lequipe.fr/Football/Actualites/Mort-de-jacques-ferran-histoire-d-un-pionnier/986360

    As noted there, the competition had become something different as he had imagined.
     
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  6. PuckVanHeel

    PuckVanHeel Member+

    Oct 4, 2011
    Club:
    Feyenoord
    Darth Vader doesn't go away...

    The Super League through the backdoor, in the form of an exclusive 24 clubs club world cup (for the time being Europe will have around 10 clubs in, but who knows if this expands in the future).



    As someone said: "This can potentially help Bayern and the other less popular clubs to branch out to other territories like China or the USA." :thumbsdown:

    Even in their own country the media understands this is bad news for the smaller European clubs and European countries (and sadly good news for the latin sphere, clubs violent crime syndicates like River Plate, Boca Juniors and such - sad).

    All the while the Champions League is again on the agenda, with now a pro/rel reform (making it more exclusive, with no room for a Porto or Ajax to ruin the party) and the more.




    .... and it was typically a Murdoch newspaper to 'leak' it.

    Also funny:
     
  7. Ariaga II

    Ariaga II Member

    Dec 8, 2018
    Might I suggest for Bayern to branch out by moving to China permanently? And take Juve with you while at it.
     
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  8. PuckVanHeel

    PuckVanHeel Member+

    Oct 4, 2011
    Club:
    Feyenoord
    See also an article like this:

    "It’s not just that this team has a limited life span. It’s that even the possibility of this team may not exist in the future."
    https://www.si.com/soccer/2019/04/1...ccer&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_medium=social

    This also applies to a Fiorentina or Tottenham indeed since they payment structure has been altered in a way it creates a vicious/virtuous cycle. Real Madrid gets so called 'coefficient payments' and also large legacy payments for all those European Cups they have won.
     

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