Stop Dragan this Out: The Wenger Succession Thread

Cashman has been told to rebuild the club on the cheap, so the Steinbrenners can save a ton of money on luxury tax payments. Baseball's free agency landscape has also changed, so the Yankees can't just sign the best players anymore - teams are much more savvy about leveraging arbitration in signing players to extensions.

 

Actually u want welbeck over giroud or perez as the front two go wide

 

This is interesting:

http://www.eifsoccer.com/articles/featured/investigating-arsenal-arsene-wenger/

 

You may want them over OG anyway but the video said that the attack focused on the middle and that the 2 CAMs would work wide to create depth. Admittedly, I have not watched any Hoffenheim this season but the lineup I suggested was based on current roster and description of how their players are deployed.

I we signed Nagelsmman and were shaking up the roster, I would probably sell OG (as well as most of the other 30+ yr old guys) and try to get someone like Lukaku, Lacazette or Dybala to play with Alexis up top.

 

I think we see a mass exodus

I honestly wouldn't be surprised to see ANYONE leave in the squad

I just really hope the old idiot sees himself out

Such a selfish man. He's done, just because his wife left him we have to put up with him? It is not the fans fault his life is nothing without football

 

Idk about selfish. I'd have a hard time turning down 8 million quid a year that's offered without accountability. Wenger staying would be flat out rational for him. Just not a good deal for Arsenal. Blame the people keeping him, aka Kroenke, especially when we could get the likes of Allegri or Simeone for significantly less.

 

According to the video, he does use a target man to play off of, so that'd be Giroud.

Welbeck's final products are mediocre anyway.

 

To look at what Jitty said from another angle, Wenger has failed to coach decision-making. In the same way that physical demands have grown, mental demands have grown as well. Wenger's way is to let players figure it out themselves. Imagine if the players were just left on their own to do their physical training. Wenger is doing that with their minds

 

U never see this sort of shit at Arsenal

Even when we dominated we always got owned in the cl because of superior tactical thinkers

Wenger has never actually been an elite manager imo

 

I agree with all this except the part about the margins. It's bigger than just a marginal thing. The thing is, Wenger really is good at identifying and recruiting players, so we usually have a substantial advantage in our underlying quality. Then he turns around a forfeits that advantage plus a marginal bit more through his horrible leadership and lack of instruction.

So let's not sell ourselves short. Wenger really is crap.

Actually I think there's more to this than you're letting on. The players know or intuit the lack of organization of the setup, they know that the team is going to be underperforming its talent level, therefore they lose motivation. As things stand, Wenger is the worst motivational manager in major sport.

We have a squad of 25 or so senior players. The only one that I can think of that is clearly performing as well as you could hope is Giroud. Maybe Koscielny maybe Walcott at a stretch. _Everybody_ else, there's at least a hope that if we had a different manager, the players would perform better whether it's through lack of injuries, instruction, organization, motivation, training or something else.

He has to go, it really can't be an option any more. This is why in spite of Wenger and Kroenke's desire for Wenger to stay, I suspect this might carry the day anyway.

 

Yes yes yes yes

This is also easily seen in basketball. The importance of coaching and tactical sophistication on both offense and defense is really clear.

The other thing that's now coming home to roost is the cumulative effect of Arsene not teaching decision making. Learning each pattern and possibility opens up new patterns and possibilities. Over the course of time your patterns become much more sophisticated. As we've not left step 1 the tactical gap has now widened to a canyon.

 

This, so this. He should have won the CL with the players he received.

 

News this morning that we have signed Sead Kolasinac and that he has been told that AW is staying.

 

One thing that amuses me is how many prominent Wenger Ins in the media have switched. Theyre not stupid,they know they won't have as much credibility with these performances.

John Cross, whom I actually think is a sound journo, has said he should go. Keown, probably if his ex-players the staunchest, has said he should go. There is a guy on Twitter (GeoffArsenal) who says he should go, and he's seen as Wenger In central there.

But our man from Alsace is a stubborn ********, and will probably manage us forever at this rate. Wenger's ghost may win us the Champions League in thirty years time, or attend Pochettino's funeral after a successful stint at Real Madrid or Man united (not Spurs).

 

We do need a left-back to be fair, but then he knows he'll get more flak if this is the only signing he makes. We need even if Alexis stays (I don't care about Ozil, he's not suited to our style), £100m of talent coming in.

 

No match day thread less than 24 hrs before the Boro game. About says it all. We probably have the most apathetic. boring club in the world. Totally dead club. Absolutely no vital signs. Call the coroner!

 

Go ahead and make a thread then

 

Clearly nobody felt arsed enought to do so. Oh well, you know that old saying "if you want something done..."
https://www.bigsoccer.com/threads/boro-vs-arsenal-epl-17-apr-2017.2042863/

 

Don't look at me. I couldn't make one.

 

I was well aware of that. I was just quoting you for the spirit you seemed to embody... "stop whining and just do it yourself".