Stop Dragan this Out: The Wenger Succession Thread

If he has signEd an extension he is a selfish, delluded old man

Pathetic excuse for a modern day manager at a 'big' club

Horrific tactician as well

So fcuking selfish

 

Maybe we can get those people to protest against whoever decided to change this message board into this monstrosity next; Hopefully it would work out better than the Wenger protest

 

Except for Alexis.

 

Honestly, I wish they can put this template on another site I chat in.

 

Case of your eyes deceiving you. Alexis works less than any player on the pitch.

 

I'm not buyin' it. There's none of United's defenders I want here except maybe de Gea if you count him as a defender, maybe Bailly if he can stay uninjured for a decent run of games. They have decent talent in the midfield and the forward line, but not much idea about how the pieces should fit together. They expect to have more points than they do because they have dominated a bunch of League games and ended up drawing them.

In any event, like I said before it's at least plausible to think United is on the upswing, and it's obvious that we're not. It's hard for me how that could be a point of dispute.

He also has more credibility than Wenger from the fact that he won the League with Chelsea two years ago. It was only last year that his players downed tools on him. Wenger has this year to explain away somehow, _after_ a run of ten years of mediocrity. His reputation is simply not salvageable in a way that doesn't affect Mourinho.

The point about the Europa League is stupid. It _was_ useless for Chelsea who expects to win the League and the CL. United are situation much differently, who are trying to scratch and claw their way back into the CL.

 

He's certainly criticized those people, often unfairly. Maybe he's tried to blame them for poor results, though that's a stretch. IIRC he's never tried to blame the failures of a season on those things (in lieu of himself). He's never ever told the supporters that they should just suck it up because before him their club was nothing.

And let's face it, that train of thought applies a lot more to Mourinho and Chelsea than it does for Wenger and Arsenal.

 

Yeah this. Our board is the Three Stooges of football management but let's face it, they have only done one thing really. They entrust all important football decisions to Wenger. It's hard to fault them for anything specific really.

 

Yeah this. Tbh I've had my fill of shills talking about how gracious and classy Wenger is. Any man with a shred of character in his financial position wouldn't accept 8MM GBP a year for what he's done for the club over the last couple years.

 

Breh, Mourinho is completely washed. Only reason he not getting more shit is due to our clown show and Mourinho has more friends in the media.

 

Heh. Just today we see another helpful round of warchest stories, it's hard to believe that Mourinho has more fans in the media.

You could be right that Mou is washed up, I've gone back and forth on it myself. But it's pretty clear for me that there's reason for United fans (or anybody else for that matter) to think otherwise. That means that Mouninho has credibility as a manager that Wenger can never have, at least at Arsenal.

 

the warchest stories come from club PR briefings.

We dont see columnist writing Wenger should stay. When is the last time you saw a columnist criticize Mourinho's performance this season? We see more Poga is crap articles then Mourinho continual misuse of someone who cost £89 million.

Also a lot of United fans I know dont like Mourinho.

 

A lot of the United fans you know are probably idiots then.

Liking or disliking a manager is irrelevant, competence is all that matters.

 

they dont like him due to that competence thing you pointed out.

 

Whose agenda is to prop up Wenger's reputation at the expense of the supporters' football interest, an agenda which several mainstream outlets willingly enable.

Really? I don't think there's been very many prominent media members who have gone on record as WengerOut until a week or two ago. It seems like it was only a month or so ago where it was pointed out that Gary Neville routinely trashed the substance of Wenger's actions as manager while still supporting him on the job.

Anybody who goes on record as WengerOut makes himself a target for retaliation by the Wenger-enabling Arsenal PR machine. So it's been pretty quiet on that score until the situation escalated beyond a point of plausible deniability.

 

‘Wenger has made his decision clear that he wants to stay and, even at 67 and after years of stubbornness, he believes he can rediscover his glory years.There will be a major shake-up of the squad, big changes behind the scenes – they want a new Academy director and in the longer term a director of football – and an expectation of Wenger being able to take the club to the next level’ – John Cross, Daily Mirror, March 2017.
‘Arsene Wenger is determined to stay on as Arsenal manager – and wants to oversee a major rebuild of his squad this summer. It is likely to lead to a big clear-out at the Emirates, with boss Wenger targeting several summer buys’ – John Cross, Daily Mirror, March 2016.
‘Arsene Wenger will sign a new Arsenal contract, and is proving it by planning a huge spending spree in the summer transfer window. Wenger has left Arsenal in no doubt that he is staying because he is lining up big transfer targets as he looks to strengthen his squad for a title challenge next season’ – John Cross, Daily Mirror, April 2014.
‘Arsene Wenger will be given a huge budget to transform Arsenal back into genuine contenders next season by making summer signings’ – John Cross, Daily Mirror, May 2013.
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https://www.reddit.com/r/Gunners/comments/60nmwd/a_look_at_the_past_john_cross_and_the_war_chest/

 

This says it all. Same old propaganda. Same strategy. Once Wenger confirms he is staying I will be tuning off until he is gone. I cannot continue to watch this garbage.

 

Sooo let's say Wenger gets 150M this summer. Who can he buy? Right now as it stands we can only buy top players. We have mediocre players, we don't need more. Any big player will only come to us if any of Chelsea, ManU, Tottenham, Liverpool, Man City won't want them. That's the first thing. Secondly, they would have to want to come here. Given these facts I don't see what players we would attract here. Why would someone from Monaco want to come, let alone any other team?

 

Breh, he can spend all 150 million on top players, it wont matter. Wenger is the problem. He is not a tactician.

 

Good Article.

http://www.football365.com/news/mediawatch-arsenal-set-for-another-spending-spree

 

Easier said than done. Be seeing you.

 

I have seen 3 matches this season... It won't be hard.

 

Agree with this plus 150 for "top players" isn't gonna get us much these days. Would rather get a vet or 2 that can bring some leadership (ie Viera back in the day) and then spend the rest on younger guys with huge upside. May miss on some of them but could easily turn things around for our next manager.