State Records

Discussion in 'Statistics and Analysis' started by scaryice, Aug 10, 2006.

  1. scaryice

    scaryice Member

    Jan 25, 2001
    I just posted on my blog about this. I'm trying to find out what the record soccer crowd is for each state. Here's the best I've got so far:

    Code:
    Georgia   	86,117	Olympics	8/3/1996	NIG-ARG
    Alabama 	83,810	Olympics	7/20/1996	ARG-USA
    New Jersey	79,005	World Cup	7/31/2003	MNU-JUV
    Michigan	77,217	World Cup	6/28/1994	BRA-SWE
    Washington	66,830	Friendly	8/9/2006	DCU-RMD
    Illinois	65,080	W.World Cup	6/24/1999	USA-NIG/BRA-ITA
    Pennslyvania	68,396	Friendly	8/3/2003	MNU-BAR
    Florida 	62,387	World Cup	6/25/1994	BEL-NET
    Massachusetts	61,316	MLS Cup 	10/20/2002	LAG-NER
    Colorado	61,202	MLS     	7/4/2002	COL-CHI
    D.C.    	54,642	W.World Cup	7/1/1999	USA-GER/BRA-NIG
    Connecticut	44,579	US Cup  	6/6/1993	BRA-USA
    Utah    	40,589	WC Qualifying	6/4/2005	USA-CR/FCD-RSL
    Missouri	37,391	WC Qualifying	4/25/2001	USA-CR
    Oregon  	35,528	Soccer Bowl	8/28/1977	NY-SEA
    Kentucky	35,211	W.Friendly	10/10/1999	USA-BRA
    Ohio    	31,550	MLS     	9/15/1996	CLB-NY
    Tennessee	26,141	Friendly	5/23/2006	MOR-USA
    Maryland	21,278	W.Friendly	8/13/2000	USA-BRA
    New Mexico	17,805	W.Friendly	5/9/2004	USA-MEX
    Minnesota	15,615	W.Friendly	7/3/2001	USA-CAN
    Arizona 	15,386	Friendly	1/15/1994	USA-NOR
    Louisiana	15,074	W.Friendly	7/13/2003	USA-BRA
    Hawaii  	14,578	Friendly	2/28/2005	DCU-LAG
    Wisconsin	12,572	Friendly	7/28/1990	EGR-USA
    New York	12,428	US Open Cup	10/12/1996	ROC-COL
    North Carolina	11,361	Friendly	9/15/1990	USA-TRI
    Indiana 	9,520	Olympic QF	5/25/1988	USA-ELS
    Virginia	9,147	W.Friendly	9/20/1998	USA-BRA
    Nevada  	8,163	CCC     	1/10/1999	ALJ-CHI/NEX-DCU
    Iowa    	6,612	PDL     	6/4/2004	DMM-WIS
    South Carolina	6,456	US Open Cup	8/4/1999	CHR-DCU
    Kansas  	2,162	US Open Cup	8/24/2004	KCW-SJE
    Vermont 	1,436	W.College	8/28/2005	NH-WM
    ???

    Alaska
    Arkansas
    Delaware
    Idaho
    Maine
    Mississippi
    Montana
    Nebraska
    Nevada
    New Hampshire
    North Dakota
    Oklahoma
    Rhode Island
    South Dakota
    West Virginia
    Wyoming

    Please help out if you can. New York is a hard one because Giants Stadium is in New Jersey. Did the Cosmos ever play in New York? Also, the NASL numbers would fill in some of the gaps (for the likes of Hawaii, Oklahoma, etc).

    International friendlies are also hard to keep track of. I'd also like to take a look at some college numbers as well.

    For Nevada, the 1999 Champions Cup semifinal is the best, but I don't have the attendance for the final.

    If you have anything better, please post it (let's not even bother with anything under 1,000).
     
  2. kenntomasch

    kenntomasch Member+

    Sep 2, 1999
    Out West
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Well, I know Indianapolis had 9,776 for the 1997 US Open Cup final at the IUPUI Track & Field Stadium, but that's not the record. The record would be the final of the 1987 Pan Am Games, but I don't know the exact figure. It was waaay larger than the current capacity of Kuntz Stadium, though, because they brought in temp seating (the stadium was built for the Pan Am Games).

    The 79,005 Man U/Juve game wasn't a World Cup game, it was Championsworld Tour. And that should be the New Jersey record.

    Yes, the Cosmos played in New York proper, at Randall's Island and at Yankee Stadium, but I doubt they have the New York City record, much less the New York State record. And I doubt the New York State record is in Rochester, but if it was, it would be bigger than what you have there.

    Team Hawaii's biggest crowd in 1977 was 12,877 for their home opener against the Cosmos. They never hit 5 digits again.
     
  3. scaryice

    scaryice Member

    Jan 25, 2001
    Of course, I just wanted to have something to start with.

    Interesting that an MLS friendly is probably the highest for Hawaii instead of the NASL.

    For the smaller states, it would probably have to be high school championships or college. That's gonna be hard to find out.
     
  4. kenntomasch

    kenntomasch Member+

    Sep 2, 1999
    Out West
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Okay. This is fun and interesting.

    I believe a foreign team's tour that played a game in Yankee Stadium in, maybe, the 50s or early 60s might have the state of NY record at 46k+ or something like that. Steve Holroyd would probably know.

    The DC record is 58,012 USA vs. Portugal, July 24, 1996 (Olympics).

    Here are the records for each MLS stadium as I have them, in case that helps or if you want to keep that list, too:

    Chicago
    ...Toyota Park: 21,210 MLS All-Star Game 8/5/06
    ...Soldier Field: 65,080 USA vs. Nigeria, 6/24/99 (Women's World Cup)
    ...Cardinal Stadium: 15,919 Fire vs. Kansas City 8/14/02

    Columbus
    ...Columbus Crew Stadium: 24,741 Crew vs. New England 5/15/99
    ...Ohio Stadium: 31,550 Crew vs. MetroStars 9/15/96

    Washington, DC
    ...RFK Stadium: 58,012 USA vs. Portugal, 7/24/96 (Olympics)

    Kansas City
    ...Arrowhead Stadium: 37,319 USA vs. Costa Rica, 4/25/01 (World Cup Qualifier)

    New Jersey
    ...Giants Stadium: 79,005 Manchester United vs. Juventus, 7/31/03

    Foxboro, MA
    ...Gillette Stadium: 61,316 New England Revolution vs. Los Angeles Galaxy, 10/20/02 (MLS Cup)
    ...Foxboro Stadium: 57,407 Revolution vs. Tampa Bay, 4/20/97 (doubleheader with USA/Mexico)

    Los Angeles
    ...Home Depot Center: 27,000 on several occasions
    ...Rose Bowl: 101,799, 1984 Olympic final

    Denver
    ...Invesco Field: 61,202 Rapids vs. Chicago Fire, 7/4/02
    ...Mile High Stadium: 60,500 Rapids vs. DC United, 7/4/01

    Dallas
    ...Pizza Hut Park: 21,193 New England vs. Los Angeles, 11/13/05 (MLS Cup)
    ...Cotton Bowl: 63,998 for three World Cup matches in 1994
    ...Dragon Stadium: 9,098 Burn vs. Los Angeles, 4/12/03

    Houston
    ...Robertson Stadium: 25,462 Dynamo vs. Colorado Rapids, 4/2/06
    ...Reliant Stadium: 70,550 Houston/Los Angeles and Barcelona/America, 8/9/06

    Salt Lake City
    ...Rice-Eccles Stadium: 40,589 USA vs. Costa Rica and Real Salt Lake vs. Dallas, 6/4/05

    San Jose
    ...Spartan Stadium: 31,728 Clash vs. Los Angeles Galaxy, 5/12/96

    Ft.Lauderdale
    ...Lockhart Stadium: 20,450 Fusion vs. DC United 3/15/98
    ...Orange Bowl: You got me there.
     
  5. scaryice

    scaryice Member

    Jan 25, 2001
    Ok, I had never even heard of the Pan-American Games until now. Well, I sort of recognized the name, but I knew nothing about it. According to this page, the final drew around 14,000 fans.
     
  6. ThreeApples

    ThreeApples Member+

    Jul 28, 1999
    Smurf Village
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    You don't have California anywhere on the list. The 1984 Olympic Gold Medal match, France vs. Brazil at the Rose Bowl, is the highest attendance in the nation's history: 101,799.

    Edit: Sorry, I see you have it on your blog.
     
  7. ThreeApples

    ThreeApples Member+

    Jul 28, 1999
    Smurf Village
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    You might want to check Dave Litterer's "Year in American Soccer articles" for old-time New York attendance figures. For example, here is listed a friendly between Celtic and the New York Giants of the ASL in 1931 that drew 30,000 at the Polo Grounds. Dig through those articles and you might find something bigger.
     
  8. ThreeApples

    ThreeApples Member+

    Jul 28, 1999
    Smurf Village
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Virginia: 11/10/1996 USA vs. TRI, WCQ, Richmond 19,312
     
  9. scaryice

    scaryice Member

    Jan 25, 2001
    Minnesota, Nevada, and Oklahoma all must be from NASL games.
     
  10. scaryice

    scaryice Member

    Jan 25, 2001
    Updated:

    Code:
    California   	101,179	Olympics	8/11/1984	FRA-BRA
    Georgia   	86,117	Olympics	8/3/1996	NIG-ARG
    Alabama 	83,810	Olympics	7/20/1996	ARG-USA
    New Jersey	79,005	Friendly	7/31/2003	MNU-JUV
    Michigan	77,217	World Cup	6/28/1994	BRA-SWE
    Texas   	70,550	Friendly	8/9/2006	HOU-LA/CLA-BAR
    Washington	66,830	Friendly	8/9/2006	DCU-RMD
    Illinois	65,080	W.World Cup	6/24/1999	USA-NIG/BRA-ITA
    Pennslyvania	68,396	Friendly	8/3/2003	MNU-BAR
    Florida 	62,387	World Cup	6/25/1994	BEL-NET
    Massachusetts	61,316	MLS Cup 	10/20/2002	LAG-NER
    Colorado	61,202	MLS     	7/4/2002	COL-CHI
    D.C.    	58,012	Olympics	7/24/1996	USA-POR
    Connecticut	44,579	US Cup  	6/6/1993	BRA-USA
    Utah    	40,589	WC Qualifying	6/4/2005	USA-CR/FCD-RSL
    Missouri	37,391	WC Qualifying	4/25/2001	USA-CR
    Oregon  	35,528	Soccer Bowl	8/28/1977	NY-SEA
    Kentucky	35,211	W.Friendly	10/10/1999	USA-BRA
    Ohio    	31,550	MLS     	9/15/1996	CLB-NY
    Tennessee	26,141	Friendly	5/23/2006	MOR-USA
    Maryland	21,278	W.Friendly	8/13/2000	USA-BRA
    Virginia	19,312	WC Qualifying	11/10/1996	USA-TRI
    New Mexico	17,805	W.Friendly	5/9/2004	USA-MEX
    Minnesota	15,615	W.Friendly	7/3/2001	USA-CAN
    Arizona 	15,386	Friendly	1/15/1994	USA-NOR
    Louisiana	15,074	W.Friendly	7/13/2003	USA-BRA
    Hawaii  	14,578	Friendly	2/28/2005	DCU-LAG
    Indiana 	14,000	P.A. Games	8/21/1987	BRA-CHI
    Wisconsin	12,572	Friendly	7/28/1990	EGR-USA
    New York	12,428	US Open Cup	10/12/1996	ROC-COL
    North Carolina	11,361	Friendly	9/15/1990	USA-TRI
    Nevada  	8,163	CCC     	1/10/1999	ALJ-CHI/NEX-DCU
    Iowa    	6,612	PDL     	6/4/2004	DMM-WIS
    South Carolina	6,456	US Open Cup	8/4/1999	CHR-DCU
    Kansas  	2,162	US Open Cup	8/24/2004	KCW-SJE
    Vermont 	1,436	W.College	8/28/2005	NH-WM
    ???

    Alaska
    Arkansas
    Delaware
    Idaho
    Maine
    Mississippi
    Montana
    Nebraska
    Nevada
    New Hampshire
    North Dakota
    Oklahoma
    Rhode Island
    South Dakota
    West Virginia
    Wyoming
     
  11. scaryice

    scaryice Member

    Jan 25, 2001
  12. scaryice

    scaryice Member

    Jan 25, 2001
  13. ThreeApples

    ThreeApples Member+

    Jul 28, 1999
    Smurf Village
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Maryland: 7/1/1999 WWC quarters USA-GER/BRA-NIG JKC Stadium (FedEx Field), 54,462

    No idea if this is a record:

    South Carolina: 12/2/2005 NCAA men's playoffs Creighton @ Clemson, 6,680
     
  14. scaryice

    scaryice Member

    Jan 25, 2001
  15. ThreeApples

    ThreeApples Member+

    Jul 28, 1999
    Smurf Village
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  16. JG

    JG Member+

    Jun 27, 1999
    A match betwen Hapoel ("of Palestine") and a local select XI at Yankee Stadium in 1947 sold 61,000 tickets, but only 43,177 showed up due to rain...by today's attendance counting methods, that might be the record for New York.

    First leg of the 1918 Open Cup final drew a reported 13,000 in Pawtucket, RI.

    Attendance for the CONCACAF Champions Cup final in Vegas was 9,763.
     
  17. scaryice

    scaryice Member

    Jan 25, 2001
    Was that a doubleheader with the 3rd place game? I assume so.
     
  18. scaryice

    scaryice Member

    Jan 25, 2001
    Kansas: 9,688 - Wichita/Dallas, MISL, 12/27/88

    There's a Dallas Sidekicks site that has a few attendance figures for their games.
     
  19. JG

    JG Member+

    Jun 27, 1999
    Biggest crowd for a U of Nebraska women's soccer game is 4,830.
     
  20. scaryice

    scaryice Member

    Jan 25, 2001
    Do you have a source? And also for the RI one?
     
  21. midwestsurfer

    midwestsurfer New Member

    Jun 7, 2005
    Honolulu~Tulsa
    Ah damn. Already had Hawaii. Thought I would get to contribute something.

    If they would just have a Japan/USA friendly here they could sell out the place.
     
  22. midwestsurfer

    midwestsurfer New Member

    Jun 7, 2005
    Honolulu~Tulsa
    Ok, my other home Oklahoma. Here is what I have found...

    "[At Skelly Stadium] The largest crowd for soccer occurred on April 26 when the Roughnecks met the New York Cosmos before 30,831 fans."

    http://tulsahurricane.cstv.com/trads/tuls-skelly-stadium.html

    Scroll down to 1980 to see where I lifted the quote from.
     
  23. scaryice

    scaryice Member

    Jan 25, 2001
    So, there's only 9 states I haven't found a crowd of over 1,000 for yet:

    Alaska
    Arkansas
    Delaware
    Maine
    Montana
    Nebraska
    North Dakota
    Rhode Island
    Wyoming
     

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