State Championships 2017

Discussion in 'Brazil: Clubs and Competitions' started by Emperor Adriano, Nov 1, 2016.

  1. celito

    celito Moderator
    Staff Member

    Palmeiras
    Brazil
    Feb 28, 2005
    USA
    Club:
    Palmeiras Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    I don't think they were playing particularly well in the 2nd half of last year to be honest. But Moises actually makes a difference and he is injured. No excuses with that roster though.
     
  2. Mengão86

    Mengão86 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Flamengo
    Brazil
    Nov 16, 2005
    Maryland, RJ/ES/PE
    Club:
    Flamengo Rio Janeiro
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Better than Fla did, especially down the stretch. GJ and Moises may make a difference, but like you said (and the media), you're supposed to have the deepest roster in the country. I heard someone on ESPN say that Palmeiras could have fielded a team with 11 "reserves" that would have beaten Ponte, given their roster depth.
     
  3. celito

    celito Moderator
    Staff Member

    Palmeiras
    Brazil
    Feb 28, 2005
    USA
    Club:
    Palmeiras Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    All ball :D
     
  4. Mengão86

    Mengão86 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Flamengo
    Brazil
    Nov 16, 2005
    Maryland, RJ/ES/PE
    Club:
    Flamengo Rio Janeiro
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Rogério Ceni deu bronca em Rodrigo Caio por fair play; saiba o que aconteceu no vestiário do São Paulo
    Técnico entrou no local dando chutes em objetos e falando alto, inclusive com o zagueiro, que tinha avisado juiz de cartão errado a Jô; ele estava irritado com gol do Corinthians nos acréscimos

    http://globoesporte.globo.com/futeb..._content=Esporte&utm_campaign=globoesportecom

    I'd like to get your thoughts on this @Century's Best and on the incident itself. It seems like Rogerio is starting to feel the pressure...
     
  5. Century's Best

    Century's Best Member+

    Jul 29, 2003
    USA
    My head says that Rodrigo Caio was a gentleman, an example to be followed. My heart says that in malandragem-infested Brazilian soccer, to do what he did is counterproductive.

    As for Rogério Ceni, I like him. A lot. He means very much to all SPFC fans... but he wasn't the man for the job.

    Even managers whom we today would not want anywhere near our clubs but who nonetheless built successful careers in Brazil's clubs (Vanderlei Luxemburgo and Luis Felipe Scolari come to mind) started in more modest teams. They needed to pick up experience.

    Luxemburgo's first coaching job was at Campo Grande. Scolari's was at CSA. Granted, Scolari had last played at CSA the year before he became manager, but CSA isn't as big as SPFC is.

    Both of these managers took years and many clubs before big-name clubs gave them chances. And has Ceni taken courses or "apprenticed" under seasoned coaches? He hasn't.

    I'm frustrated because while Ceni appeared to be leading the team on the right path based on our play, the team played two awful back-to-back names in state & cup championships and now the odds of reverting the scorelines are very low. If SPFC is eliminated, our semester is over.

    I can't say it's all his fault. The roster, while good, needs more names. But as for Ceni himself - yes, he's feeling the pressure, and perhaps he wasn't ready for such a big job as managing SPFC.

    If my team fails in the return matches vs. Cruzeiro & Corinthians, well, at least I have the NT to watch for consolation...
     
  6. Harambe Alvinegro

    Feb 13, 2017
    The highlands between DRC and Rwanda
    Club:
    Santos FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    I'm surprised how stress free that match was. Especially with how palmeiras started the first ten minutes. Borja sucks
     
    Mengão86 repped this.
  7. celito

    celito Moderator
    Staff Member

    Palmeiras
    Brazil
    Feb 28, 2005
    USA
    Club:
    Palmeiras Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Congrats to the Macaca. Hope they win the title.
     
  8. Harambe Alvinegro

    Feb 13, 2017
    The highlands between DRC and Rwanda
    Club:
    Santos FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    @Mengão86 you see this Juninho kid on sport play b4 ? I never did until I watched the first leg vs náutico on YouTube today , holy shit.
     
  9. Mengão86

    Mengão86 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Flamengo
    Brazil
    Nov 16, 2005
    Maryland, RJ/ES/PE
    Club:
    Flamengo Rio Janeiro
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    I've seen about 3-4 games of him -- two clássicos, a Copa Nordeste game and a little of a Sul Americana game. Yeah, he's a guy I'll be curious to watch when the Brasileirão starts up.
     
  10. Mengão86

    Mengão86 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Flamengo
    Brazil
    Nov 16, 2005
    Maryland, RJ/ES/PE
    Club:
    Flamengo Rio Janeiro
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
  11. Century's Best

    Century's Best Member+

    Jul 29, 2003
    USA
    I can only say, "vamos Ponte Preta."
     
  12. Mengão86

    Mengão86 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Flamengo
    Brazil
    Nov 16, 2005
    Maryland, RJ/ES/PE
    Club:
    Flamengo Rio Janeiro
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
  13. Mengão86

    Mengão86 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Flamengo
    Brazil
    Nov 16, 2005
    Maryland, RJ/ES/PE
    Club:
    Flamengo Rio Janeiro
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
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    No Zé lol.
     
  14. Harambe Alvinegro

    Feb 13, 2017
    The highlands between DRC and Rwanda
    Club:
    Santos FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    You really think he's on par with white Kleber ? And has he reached guinazu levels when he was at vasco ?
     
  15. Harambe Alvinegro

    Feb 13, 2017
    The highlands between DRC and Rwanda
    Club:
    Santos FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Thomas tearing up sports right side , that assist was fire.
     
  16. Mengão86

    Mengão86 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Flamengo
    Brazil
    Nov 16, 2005
    Maryland, RJ/ES/PE
    Club:
    Flamengo Rio Janeiro
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    He's probably close to both, but hasn't passed them.
     
  17. Harambe Alvinegro

    Feb 13, 2017
    The highlands between DRC and Rwanda
    Club:
    Santos FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    I wasn't expecting Corinthians to come out like this. They deserved that first goal and ponte is just waking up
     
  18. Harambe Alvinegro

    Feb 13, 2017
    The highlands between DRC and Rwanda
    Club:
    Santos FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Im not understanding why Lucca and pottker aren't taking fagner on 1 on 1 both have had plenty of 1 x 1 oppurtunitss and just took a touch and passed it back to Elton
     
  19. celito

    celito Moderator
    Staff Member

    Palmeiras
    Brazil
    Feb 28, 2005
    USA
    Club:
    Palmeiras Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Damn Ponte, disappointing .
     
  20. Mengão86

    Mengão86 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Flamengo
    Brazil
    Nov 16, 2005
    Maryland, RJ/ES/PE
    Club:
    Flamengo Rio Janeiro
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    All three of Inter's GKs are injured and they may have to start an outfield player as a goalie for the second leg of the Gauchao final.
     
  21. Mengão86

    Mengão86 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Flamengo
    Brazil
    Nov 16, 2005
    Maryland, RJ/ES/PE
    Club:
    Flamengo Rio Janeiro
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
  22. celito

    celito Moderator
    Staff Member

    Palmeiras
    Brazil
    Feb 28, 2005
    USA
    Club:
    Palmeiras Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Only as a sub to Fred ... what could go wrong ... :whistling:

    Honestly though, Fred would definitely do much better with this team than 2014.
     
  23. Mengão86

    Mengão86 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Flamengo
    Brazil
    Nov 16, 2005
    Maryland, RJ/ES/PE
    Club:
    Flamengo Rio Janeiro
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Agreed. But to suggest Jo has a spot on the NT because he's scored a few goals in derbies is pure lunacy -- I hate to say it, but really it's bairrismo.
     
  24. Brasitusa

    Brasitusa Member+

    AC Milan
    Italy
    May 14, 2014
    Club:
    New York City FC
    Cruzeiro vs. Atlético on Globo International, about to start. Go Cruzeiro!
     
  25. Harambe Alvinegro

    Feb 13, 2017
    The highlands between DRC and Rwanda
    Club:
    Santos FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Damn Leo flicking that on for dourado was impressive.
     

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