Stars FC no longer: Meet Minnesota United FC

Discussion in 'Minnesota United FC' started by bullsear, Mar 5, 2013.

  1. bullsear

    bullsear Member

    Feb 17, 2009
    Club:
    Newcastle United FC
    They team can't "downsize" the FC, because there is currently a very visible, very vocal, and very well recognized organization Minnesota United fighting for legal recognition of gay marriage.

    In other news, Zeus Jones, who designed the logo and jerseys have images up of two more kits, which I assume will be the simplified ones we'll start the season in.
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    Full article here
     
  2. NorthernWall

    NorthernWall Member

    Mar 1, 2012

    Are you from here? We don't name clubs after cities, we name them after the state.
     
  3. Nacional Tijuana

    Nacional Tijuana BigSoccer Supporter

    May 6, 2003
    San Diego, Calif.
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Ah, OK. Makes sense. I've never even been to MN. Never heard of that entity.
     
  4. Skippysasquirrel

    May 11, 2012
    San Diego, CA
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    How'd they decide on United?

    I think the crest and the kits are awesome though.
     
  5. zoobawa

    zoobawa Member

    Jul 28, 2008
    Minnesota
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Minneapolis Millers, St Paul Saints, Minneapolis Lakers. It would be a welcome change if they strayed from Minnesota.
     
  6. Demolition Man

    Nov 5, 2009
    Twin Cities, MN
    Club:
    NSC Minnesota Stars
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Minnesota Stars FC was a perfect name. Please bring it back.
     
    ceezmad and Nacional Tijuana repped this.
  7. soccermilitant

    soccermilitant Member+

    Jan 14, 2009
    St.paul
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    the stars had the coolest logo in american soccer
     
  8. bullsear

    bullsear Member

    Feb 17, 2009
    Club:
    Newcastle United FC
    From my perspective it was the perfect name for the new-to-soccer owner. It's shared by the biggest brand in England and the most successful (historically) side in MLS, and it was also in the name of the health care company of which McGuire used to be CEO.

    It also catches the new-to-soccer fan for the same reasons, and it's instantly recognizable to "euro-snobs," who are a completely untapped market for soccer in MPLS/STP. On top of that, we're currently pretty fractured as a soccer fanbase, with many older fans still associating with the Kicks, many associating with the Thunder, and some very vocal, newer fans identifying strongly with the Stars. So in that sense, the team hopes to "unite" the many, fractured fanbases.
     
  9. bullsear

    bullsear Member

    Feb 17, 2009
    Club:
    Newcastle United FC
    And of course Bruce and Wes on the Du Nord show got team president Nick Rogers to go on record about the name change.
     
  10. NorthernWall

    NorthernWall Member

    Mar 1, 2012
    Defunct clubs from a dead era. Minnesota is the convention. And it's a good one.
     
  11. MN Timberjack

    MN Timberjack New Member

    Mar 5, 2012
    Duluth, Minnesota
    Club:
    Portland Timbers
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Any word when either set of kits will be available for purchase?
     
  12. zoobawa

    zoobawa Member

    Jul 28, 2008
    Minnesota
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    I did not know the Saint Paul Saints are a defunct club, I guess the new ballpark near the Riverfront is going to be built for no reason at all.

    Most teams use their city names.

    In MLS, only one team uses a state name, Colorado.
    In NBA, two teams use state names, Twolves and Pacers
    In NFL, four teams use state names, Panthers, Vikings, Cardinals and Titans
    In NHL, five teams use state names, Devils, Hurricanes, Panthers, Avalanche and Wild
    In MLB, four teams use state names, Rangers, Twins, Diamondbacks and Rockies.

    In fact, only 13% of teams do, and MSP is the only market that uses their state name for every team. Why? If the team being named after the city its located in rather than the state made a difference, why does Denver have two teams named after Denver and three named after the state? Wouldn't the Broncos and the Nuggets have terrible attendance if it made any difference? No, because it doesn't have any difference. People from St Cloud don't drive an hour to watch the Vikings play because the team is named MINNESOTA Vikings. They drive an hour because its their team.

    So its not the convention, its actually a very low occurrence in sport names.
     
  13. bullsear

    bullsear Member

    Feb 17, 2009
    Club:
    Newcastle United FC
    I actually disagree pretty much completely with you. I think that many people have and do support Minnesota teams because their names say 'Minnesota.' There are other options out there, so it's not as though people have to follow their local team anymore.

    Most people in outstate will never get a chance to see an NFL game in person, and having been to a great many, there's actually not much incentive to do so. With the internet, there's no longer such a thing as an "out of market" game. And the television product is better than the live product, and it doesn't cost $100/game. That means people can decide to be fans of any team they want. My brother, for instance, state-betraying-traitorous-scum that he is, follows the Arizona Cardinals.

    People support the team that they identify with. And if they don't have a lot of Minnesota pride, they probably won't follow Minnesota. The same is true of the Twin Cities. Minnesotans are proud that the Twin Cities are ours, but there are a lot of people who don't identify with them personally. And a number of people--from St Cloud--have so much pride in their small home cities that they "prefer" it to the Cities themselves.

    That said, I actually love the name Twin Cities, and in an ideal world, I'd have like to see the team called Twin Cities SC/FC (TCU just sounds too much like a college or a bank to me). I just think that, practically, naming the team after Minnesota is a much smarter move.
     
  14. SoccerPrime

    SoccerPrime Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 14, 2003
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Forum name changed to reflect recent events. ;)
     
  15. NORML

    NORML Member+

    Aug 9, 2002
    Lake Wobegon, MN
    Club:
    NSC Minnesota Stars
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Thanks. Do we still need to go down to the customer service area to request a name change/addition for the club field in our profile?
     
  16. NorthernWall

    NorthernWall Member

    Mar 1, 2012
    That's the point, chief.

    Minnesota Vikings
    Minnesota Twins
    Minnesota Timberwolves
    Minnesota Wild
    Minnesota Swarm
    Minnesota United
    Hell even our lingere football league goes by Minnesota Valkyries.

    So hey, break that convention for an abstract reason, or stick with our tradition.
    I guess you get to pick your preference, I certainly have mine.
     
  17. falvo

    falvo Member+

    Mar 27, 2005
    San Jose & Florence
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Cool!
     
  18. zoobawa

    zoobawa Member

    Jul 28, 2008
    Minnesota
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
  19. zoobawa

    zoobawa Member

    Jul 28, 2008
    Minnesota
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    I think using black as the background for the banner is a better look, so I changed it. In that thumbnail you can't see the loon's top feathers but if you maximize it there is a slight grey border around the wing which you can see.
     
  20. falvo

    falvo Member+

    Mar 27, 2005
    San Jose & Florence
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    FYP! ;)
     
  21. Gophers fan

    Gophers fan New Member

    Jul 26, 2008
    I think you forgeting some. in the NBA, the New York Knicks also use the state name, same with baseball New York Yankees and Mets, in the NHL the New York Rangers and Islanders use state name, in football, the Giants and Jets uses New York. First time poster and just wanted to add those in.
     
  22. ceezmad

    ceezmad Member+

    Mar 4, 2010
    Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Red Stars
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  23. bullsear

    bullsear Member

    Feb 17, 2009
    Club:
    Newcastle United FC
    Damn, ceezmad. You oldschool.
     
  24. MuzzaFC

    MuzzaFC Member

    Nov 6, 2011
    The Stars had a great logo as well. Gonna miss it. New teams make note.
     
  25. SoccerPrime

    SoccerPrime Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 14, 2003
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    You'll have to request that change in the Customer Service thread.
     

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