Stamford, a bridge too far: Matt Miazga to Vitesse

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  1. Suyuntuy

    Suyuntuy Member+

    Jul 16, 2007
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  2. LouisianaViking07/09

    Aug 15, 2009
    I'm surprised England is so high in representation. I can only think of Dwyer.

    Way to go Ghana. I would have expected far more from other Concacaf nations. Where's T&T or Panama? They should have representation closer to top 10.
     
  3. bshredder

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    #2978 bshredder, Apr 18, 2017
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    Umm, I'm not going to list them all but BWP, Harrison, Cole, Ridgewell, Mulholand, Simpson jump right out. Especially BWP, the leading scorer in the league

    Harrison is an elite young player and a #1 draft choice. Ridgewell won an MLS Cup with Portland
     
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  4. The Irish Rover

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    Harrison moved to the US as a teenager (9th or 10th grade IIRC). Has there been any talk of him taking US citizenship recently? I recall a Guardian article when he wasn't saying no to the idea, but I may be wrong.
     
  5. bshredder

    bshredder BigSoccer Supporter

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    All I know is that when he was drafted he was close to obtaining a green card.

    With that, it's probably a long shot unless MLS can make him a DP to keep him from Europe. At that point, he probably wouldn't get citizenship before Qatar. So if the USMNT wants him for the 2026 World Cup, it has to hope MLS pays him a ton.

    OR

    hope he marries an American girl inside of the next few years which can speed up the process for citizenship before 2022.

    Sounds like a pipe dream to me.
     
  6. The Irish Rover

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    So the clock starts ticking from the moment you apply for/get the Green Card, and not when you (legally!!!:p) entered the country?

    If so, it's a pity, because he moved to the US to attend boarding school when he was only 14. if that can be made to count . . .
     
  7. BostonRed

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    Harrison has suggested he would be open to the idea:
    http://www.empireofsoccer.com/jack-harrison-on-eos-radio-would-be-great-to-represent-usmnt-50176/

    He only recently got his Green Card, so he's about 5 years away (3 years if he marries an American).
     
  8. BostonRed

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    Yep, the clock starts with the Green Card and not before. There are citizens of some countries (India, Mexico, China) who may have to wait 10-15 years just to get a Green Card.
     
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  9. USSoccerNova

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    I'm happy to pay for his Match.com or Tinder Plus memberships if it will help speed the process. :)
     
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  10. Jazzy Altidore

    Jazzy Altidore Member+

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    I think a Seeking Arrangement account would be even more appropriate.
     
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  11. Balerion

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  12. LouisianaViking07/09

    Aug 15, 2009
    how big is the cup final over there? Is it highly celebrated like the league title?
     
  13. The Irish Rover

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    Nope. The League has always been the gold standard, with the Cup as a consolation prize/laying down a marker for next season. Even in England.

    The Dutch Cup is big enough on the Dutch scene, bigger than the Copa Italia for example, but even then it depends of the club in question. If it's two from Ajax, Feyenoord or PSV in the final, it's big simply because any competitive game between those three is big. If one of them is playing Vitesse, it's no big deal if they win the Cup Final and a bit embarassing to lose.

    Even the F.A. Cup - the very first formal competition of them all, remember - doesn't mean much these days. If United had a choice between finishing 4th in the EPL or winning the F.A. Cup, they'd go for 4th every day of the week and twenty times on Sunday. With the rise of the Champions' League the domestic Cup competitions really aren't that important any more, even in countries where they were once major occasions.
     
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  14. Jazzy Altidore

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    Having two domestic cups in England is beyond dumb, particularly in light of the ongoing struggles in Europe.
     
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  15. That's not entirely true, not for the one that isnot champion. With the loss of the qualifying round for the CL for the 2nd in the table, the Cup is a big thing as it gives direct access to the group phase of the EL.
    Ajax got more than embarrassed, when they expected a Cup win, but were hammered 5-1 by PEC Zwolle, as did FC Utrecht against my club with 4-0. For us that was double bad, as the traditional stage of the Cup Final is the "Kuip"!
     
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  16. VitesseCFC

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  17. Gorky

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    Jozy was pretty happy to win the Cup with AZ.
     
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  18. BostonRed

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    Aron played in that game, too.
    And they got those snazzy red bathrobes:
    [​IMG]
     
  19. Suyuntuy

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    #2994 Suyuntuy, Apr 19, 2017
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    I remember that. It's as if he knew that was going to be the high point of his club career.

    PS: Same for Aronjo, it seems.
     
  20. LouisianaViking07/09

    Aug 15, 2009
    I concur.

    I think the only difference between FA and the Capital One is that 1 includes only clubs from the top 4 divisions while the other allows even semi-pro teams.
     
  21. LouisianaViking07/09

    Aug 15, 2009
    he even scored the game winner i think.

    one of the biggest matches a Yank has played in while in Europe.
     
  22. Jazzy Altidore

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    [​IMG]

    It looks about 22 inches high and ten inches in diameter at its highest point.
     
  23. LouisianaViking07/09

    Aug 15, 2009
    :p:p:p:p:p:p
     
  24. freisland

    freisland Member+

    Jan 31, 2001
    Vitesse mist behalve Van Wolfswinkel ook Miazga tegen Feyenoord

    No MM or Ricky van Wolfsblood for Feyenoord.
     
  25. LouisianaViking07/09

    Aug 15, 2009
    what barbaric language is this?
     

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