Stadium Porn: The Portlandia Edition

Discussion in 'MLS: News & Analysis' started by Yoshou, Apr 19, 2017.

  1. firefan2001

    firefan2001 Member+

    Dec 27, 2000
    Oswego, Illinois
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    So the new turf has been already bought?
     
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  2. doog

    doog Member

    Jun 11, 2006
    They can't use the 2018/2019 turf, it's getting thoroughly destroyed by the construction equipment that sits on top of it. As Youshou says, the turf almost certainly has been paid for, and if there really is a 6-month lead time I'd have to imagine they'd hold off until 2021 to make it happen.
     
  3. firefan2001

    firefan2001 Member+

    Dec 27, 2000
    Oswego, Illinois
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    So then they'll have to start on the road for first 5-6 games in 2021.
     
  4. Kejsare

    Kejsare Member+

    Portland Timbers
    Mar 10, 2010
    Virginia
    Club:
    Portland Timbers
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Came across this neat photo from 2000. This view was there only for a brief time.
    [​IMG]
     
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  5. Cliveworshipper

    Cliveworshipper Member+

    Dec 3, 2006
    #605 Cliveworshipper, Feb 20, 2019
    Last edited: Feb 20, 2019
    I don’t think the cost is the first issue. Merritt was willing to replace this turf after one year.

    Grass at PDX will entail in ground heating, a grow light system, and hybrid grass.

    Think Wembley or Camp Nou.



    Merritt went for the best with Turf, he’ll go with the best for grass.
    That will take a few months, but it could be by 2020.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/GrassMaster
     
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  6. TrueCrew

    TrueCrew Member+

    Dec 22, 2003
    Columbus, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Hope this does mean grass indeed. Be it 2021 or whenever.

    NE, Sea, Van, ATL all that is left of turf, yes?
     
  7. firefan2001

    firefan2001 Member+

    Dec 27, 2000
    Oswego, Illinois
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Cincinnati before they move into their new stadium in 2021
     
  8. Yoshou

    Yoshou Fan of the CCL Champ

    May 12, 2009
    Seattle
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    For the "permanent" stadiums, correct. And I don't see any of those being changed to grass any time soon. Portland was the only one left that could be "easily" transitioned to grass due to the football team being the secondary tenant and, honestly, shouldn't have been at PP anyways. Now that they've been moved out, the football issue has been eliminated.
     
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  9. firefan2001

    firefan2001 Member+

    Dec 27, 2000
    Oswego, Illinois
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    You would think that Krafft would want his team (Pats, he doesn't care about the Rev's) play on a grass surface, it is after all it's a safer surface (so people say).:)
     
  10. Yoshou

    Yoshou Fan of the CCL Champ

    May 12, 2009
    Seattle
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    From what I understand, Gillette originally had a grass field, but after one game where the field condition was horrible, Kraft ripped it out and put in turf.
     
  11. Honore de Ballsac

    Oct 28, 2005
    France.
    Thought turf was also supposed to deliver the Patriots one of those niggly competitive advantages, like deflated footballs and such.
     
  12. Yoshou

    Yoshou Fan of the CCL Champ

    May 12, 2009
    Seattle
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That’s one of the theories, but then there is also growing evidence that teams with turf also have the most injuries. I saw one article last uear that ranked the injury rates of teams and all the teams that played on turf were at the bottom and most of the teams that played on grass were at the top.
     
  13. ToMhIlL

    ToMhIlL Member+

    Feb 18, 1999
    Boxborough, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    They did have grass at Gillete when it first opened and even had an undersoil heating system to keep it from freezing.

    But the problem is that the stadium was built with the upper deck too high and it was set up in the wrong direction for optimal sunlight on the grass. So it didn't grow all that well and with the normal use of the NFL plus soccer and weather conditions, it didn't wear very well.

    Then there was a game in the rain when Brady threw a pass to the flats and the receiver slipped, making for an easy pick and a touchdown. Word on the street was that it was the straw that broke the camel's back, and the decision was made to rip out the grass in favor of turf in a few weeks when the Pats had a bye week and an away game after that. Unfortunately, the Revs (who?) had a home playoff game a couple of days after they put in the turf field. That'll teach those 160-pound soccer players from trampling the field and ruining it for football!
     
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  14. firefan2001

    firefan2001 Member+

    Dec 27, 2000
    Oswego, Illinois
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The original crane behind the stadium is gone.
     
  15. VBCity72

    VBCity72 Member+

    Aug 17, 2014
    Sunny San Diego
    Club:
    Plymouth Argyle FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    American football is hard on grass. If it's just the 8 home games then that's fine but add in 17 soccer games and possible college or high school football playoff and championship games and that is no Bueno.

    I remember a Steelers MNF game after several high school playoff games on Friday, a Pitt game on Saturday and rain for most of the weekend the surface was unplayable. The ball hit the ground after a punt and a buried about an inch down.
     
  16. firefan2001

    firefan2001 Member+

    Dec 27, 2000
    Oswego, Illinois
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Looks like the seats have arrived.
     
  17. Kejsare

    Kejsare Member+

    Portland Timbers
    Mar 10, 2010
    Virginia
    Club:
    Portland Timbers
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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  18. firefan2001

    firefan2001 Member+

    Dec 27, 2000
    Oswego, Illinois
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Roof looks lower than in these pictures.
     
  19. firefan2001

    firefan2001 Member+

    Dec 27, 2000
    Oswego, Illinois
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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  20. tomásbernal

    tomásbernal Member+

    Sep 4, 2007
    Club:
    Portland Timbers
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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  21. flange

    flange Member

    Jul 15, 2014
    Portland, OR
    Club:
    Portland Timbers
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That version had four new levels. What they're building has three.
     
  22. firefan2001

    firefan2001 Member+

    Dec 27, 2000
    Oswego, Illinois
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Is that a level or just standing room only tickets?
     
  23. TrueCrew

    TrueCrew Member+

    Dec 22, 2003
    Columbus, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I believe Brady had an injury scare on a muddy field at Gillette & that is why they switched to turf.

    Still, good news for Portland. Soccer on turf (no tackles) just isn't real soccer. No matter the lipstick great players like Valeri, Dempsey, and Almiron put on that pig.
     
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  24. flange

    flange Member

    Jul 15, 2014
    Portland, OR
    Club:
    Portland Timbers
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I don't know. I also don't know why they removed the 4th level, just that it was in the original drawings they released to the public, and removed shortly thereafter.
     
  25. Kejsare

    Kejsare Member+

    Portland Timbers
    Mar 10, 2010
    Virginia
    Club:
    Portland Timbers
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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