Squad Barometer - Forwards Select 2

Discussion in 'Germany: National Teams' started by BorisG, Jul 5, 2017.

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Forwards - Select 2

Poll closed Jul 5, 2018.
  1. Werner

    29 vote(s)
    93.5%
  2. Stindl

    9 vote(s)
    29.0%
  3. Gomez

    13 vote(s)
    41.9%
  4. Wagner

    4 vote(s)
    12.9%
  5. Kruse

    2 vote(s)
    6.5%
  6. Volland

    1 vote(s)
    3.2%
  7. Selke

    1 vote(s)
    3.2%
  8. Platte

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
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  1. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    sad but funny that Uth is butt of the jokes, lol.


    although he had an assist today as Koln beat Wolfsburg so good start for now.
     
  2. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany


    -Petersen is Freiburg's all time top scorer.


    Werner should be RB Leipzig's all time top scorer very very soon.
     
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  3. Blueberry_night

    Blueberry_night Member+

    Apr 5, 2016
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    Been thinking if Low should try Niederlechner as opposed to Waldschmidt.
     
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  4. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    it really feels like Germany has issues with dev strikers who are ready at young age it's why in recent times we always call up the guys who are 26+. Waldschmidt is interesting but he spent like half the season injured and one feels like he lacks experience to really help Germany NOW.
     
  5. Karl-Heinz Riedle

    Aug 27, 2009
    Dublin, Ireland
    Club:
    Cork City
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    said it many times, striker is a position the development curve is delayed.

    who cares? Hrubesch and Bierhoff joined NT at late 20s, still made an impact. Historically German. Strikers have late development path.

    physically, not every striker can develop well at 17/18, can cause a lot of problems later if they tried it hard at young age. Physically not everyone is the same and it takes time. See Pietro Pellegri from Italy, Monaco complained about Genoa forcing him too much at 16/17.
     
  6. Karl-Heinz Riedle

    Aug 27, 2009
    Dublin, Ireland
    Club:
    Cork City
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    And like 2-3 seasons ago, Niederlechner wasn’t that impressive as now
     
  7. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Volland scored a double today while 94-Srbeny joins 94-Mamba as another ex 3rd Liga player off to a good start in 1BL as he scored on his 1BL debut.
     
  8. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
  9. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Florian Niederlechner is one of the strongest offensive players of the current Bundesliga season. The FC Augsburg player would be happy to receive a call from national coach Joachim Löw.

    He says he thought of the European Championship in the summer "not at all". "I stay with myself and my head is relaxed. I'm happy about the cool first half of the season and hope for a similar second half of the season. But if Jogi Löw should call, I would of course answer immediately," said the 29-year-old to the kicker. For Niederlechner, the leap into the national team would be the culmination of an almost incredible career that started in the lower leagues. "Of course it would be insane, but I don't think about it."

    Niederlechner said that he primarily wanted to complete his apprenticeship and also earn something as an amateur. "I didn't even think about professional football." Niederlechner believes that there won't be many more who make it into the Bundesliga. "In the meantime everything is geared towards the youth performance centers. I can hardly imagine that someone else will scout in the Landesliga. But I could not have done it otherwise. I had to live out, get to know the other side. I was not as disciplined as you were should have been for an NLZ, "he said.



    he basically went 6th then 5th than 3rd than 2BL than 1BL. Now that is what I call long ASS route to 1BL. Playing every level bar RL to make it to the top. Has been in 1BL since 2015. And he's hit 2 double digits seasons in 1BL out 5.
     
  10. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    no journey beats 95-Weydandt, who started in Kreisliga (eighth division). Who then went to 5th division to then H96 II/RL. Initially was not supposed to be 1st team player but 1st team coach noticed him in training and promoted him. Showed easily that he belongs in 1BL-2BL. Hope we see him in 1BL again soon. Another 95 I want to see back in 1BL is Kleindienst, would also be nice to see 94-Ducksch getting redemption.

    that is fun thing about football is that there are tons of hidden players in lower leagues who will take time to make it if ever. I've seen a few 6th division young players who look like they could play higher level, time will tell if they can. Fact is LOTS of players are forced for numerous different reasons to start lower level.

    Hannover's Hendrik Weydandt: "I'd never even been in a youth academy"

    Not that the transition has entirely been without a few teething problems. "Obviously there are difficulties in adapting to the step up to the Bundesliga from the fourth division," Weydandt continued. "Even just in the summer it was a huge adjustment for me being in the Hannover U-23 side because I'd never played for a professional club or even been in a youth academy. My thought process at the time was: 'OK, you need to soak everything up. Try to do things right from the beginning because first impressions are lasting'."
     
  11. Karl-Heinz Riedle

    Aug 27, 2009
    Dublin, Ireland
    Club:
    Cork City
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    We failed to produce someone like Haaland or Marcus Thuram

    Strikers from NLZ , for example Werner, Selke, Volland and Waldschmidt have modernised games. More technical and suited for pressing teams with high line defence (the trend)

    Niederlechner and Weydandt are more like X-factors. Less technical but depends a lot on strength n physique. They aren’t the norm. Only teams with more simplistic tactics will use these

    Germany are trying to produce strikers with certain traits: 1v1 ability, can involve in build up, pressing, mobility ... even Haaland is that kind of striker instead of being a targetman

    I think unless teams play a direct approach like the mid to lower tabled teams ... strikers with less technical ability like Niederlechner and Weydandt won’t be very welcomed.

    but strikers from grassroot football usually takes more time. U can see that from Vardy in England and we used to have Hrubesch and Klose
     
  12. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
  13. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    some guys from 2BL are going down to 3rd Liga.
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    Pourie on loan.


    Hanslik on loan to HR.



    reality a lot of cfs will be forced to go between 2BL-3rd Liga level.
     
  14. Karl-Heinz Riedle

    Aug 27, 2009
    Dublin, Ireland
    Club:
    Cork City
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Of course, even these strikers don’t expect themselves to play in 1BL. Let’s be honest, they belong to 2BL or 3BL . Have seen enough of Pourie

    you are listing Pourie, Hanslik and Steininger... what do u expect from them?
     
  15. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    seems like Terodde has been linked with leaving Koln whether loan/permanent.
    trivia, Terodde is 4 goals away from being 2BL All time top scorer.

    that some records from recent German CFs,
    Petersen, Freiburg all time top scorer
    Werner, very soon, RB Leipzig all time top scorer
    and Terodde at only 31 more than enough time to become 2BL all time scorer.

    also 32 year old Klos a career 2BL player very keen on getting AB promoted to 1BL. He's leading the scoring charts in 2BL and also AB's all time top scorer too. Promotion is likely his best shot, age matters little. 32 year old Hennings another career 2BL player this season at 11 goals in 17 1BL games.
     
  16. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    94-Mamba career 3rd Liga-OL player before this season, playing 1st 1BL season.
    5 goals and 2 assists in 14 games.

    "All five of Streli Mamba's Bundesliga goals have come against top-six contenders: Freiburg, Borussia Dortmund (two), RB Leipzig and Bayer Leverkusen."

    attracting more and more interest from other clubs. Likely won't go down with the ship if they get relegated.

    94-Srbeny at best 3rd Liga player when last in Germany.
    "Srbeny scored with his first shot in the Bundesliga, only days after arriving from Norwich City."

    Farke talks Srbeny.
    Yes, in an ideal world you would probably have waited until after this Manchester United game but during the January transfer window they are other factors in play, like Dennis' wishes or the other club involved," said the City chief, speaking at Colney on Friday.

    "To be honest it wasn't easy to give Dennis permission to go because we liked him a lot, he always worked his socks off for this for this club. The main reason we allowed it is because he wanted to leave and he made it makes it pretty clear but in a respectful way.

    "He was always proud to wear the yellow shirt but it was the opportunity to be the main striker at Bundesliga level. To play many minutes. He is the record signing for Paderborn. If we're really honest, in the last two years, he was not so much involved, due to Teemu Pukki and also Jordan Rhodes and then we brought in Josip Drmic. Secondly, from the business side it was a decent deal for us for a player who didn't have much game time.

    "Thirdly, Adam has done well in the recent weeks and perhaps this opens up the opportunity for him. We always want to back our young players. I would have preferred this deal next week but when a player wants to leave it is hard to say to them we need you for this one game."
     
  17. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Rouwen Hennings: Who is Fortuna Düsseldorf’s late-blooming frontman?

    He’s currently the closest challenger to tearaway Bundesliga top scorer candidates Robert Lewandowski and Timo Werner - but who is Rouwen Hennings, and what made him the prolific Fortuna Düsseldorf talisman he is today?

    bundesliga.com lifts the lid on the man who holds the key to Fortuna’s survival bid this season…

    Rouwen Hennings

    Age: 32
    Club: Fortuna Düsseldorf
    Position: Centre-forward
    Country: Germany (21 caps for U21s, 13 goals)

    Key stats

    Hennings has been stacking numbers during a remarkable run of form that has seen the 5’9” striker carry the weight of Düsseldorf’s goalscoring burden on his burly back. From his 16 league appearances prior to the 2019/20 winter break, Hennings plundered 11 goals to put him behind only Lewandowski (19) and Werner (18) at the top of the Bundesliga’s scoring charts at the halfway stage. For perspective, Hennings’ contribution is a league-high share of 61 per cent of Fortuna’s combined team total of 18 goals. He also scored nine of their 11 league goals immediately prior to to the winter break, and has found the back of the net in all four of the Flingeraner’s victories.

    Furthermore, Hennings’ Hinrunde return - that includes a trio of penalties, a league-best first goal of the game on seven separate occasions and a stunning hat-trick in the 3-3 draw with Schalke - equals Fortuna’s club-record for most goals during the first half of a campaign, set by Klaus Allofs back in 1978/79.

    It means Hennings already has the best single-season Bundesliga goal tally of his career and is just six off the 17 in 27 appearances for Karlsruhe in 2014/15 that landed him the top scorer award in Bundesliga 2. He now has 81 goals from 269 games across Germany’s top two divisions to go with his collection of Bundesliga 2 and Third Division titles.

    Plays a bit like: Christian Vieri

    There are many similarities between Italy legend Christian Vieri and Hennings: two thick-set, left-footed, strong-as-oxen predators. Hennings’ goals against Werder Bremen, Schalke and Eintracht Frankfurt illustrate the point, each showcasing his spatial awareness, incredible movement off the ball to lose his markers and ability to finish with aplomb with his feet or head. The Fortuna veteran’s unforgettable effort against Union Berlin also shows that Hennings, like Vieri, is capable of match-winning magic of the highest order.

    Did you know?

    Hennings’ stellar start to the season may surprise fans of English Premier League side Burnley after his spell with the Clarets back in 2015/16. Then in the English Championship, Hennings scored just one league goal and one more in the FA Cup over a total of 28 appearances in England.

    While the ex-Hamburg, Osnabrück and St. Pauli man didn’t quite find form in front of goal, he did endear himself to the local community by making a trip to a local primary school affected by flooding over Christmas in 2016 armed with a coaching session for the pupils as well as a signed shirt and vouchers to cover the cost of replacing damaged school supplies.

    What they’re saying

    "His goalscoring record cannot be explained by a single run. That's consistency. Rouwen could at least slip into the provisional [Germany] squad. What Rouwen has delivered so far is really, really good. Rouwen is an absolute team player, works a lot, and is technically very good.” - Düsseldorf coach Friedhelm Funkel

    “In the penalty area, Rouwen is simply ice cold.” - Fortuna teammate and USA international Alfredo Morales

    “Rouwen Hennings is currently in top shape. The work he does for the team is enormous. Rouwen is an undisputed leader, and his position within the team will increase over the next few years.” - Fortuna's sporting director Lutz Pfannenstiel
    https://www.bundesliga.com/en/bunde...tuna-dusseldorf-s-late-blooming-frontman-9025
     
  18. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    according to Bild, Weydandt is a candidate for Bremen Winter transfer. So we could see him back in 1BL sooner rather than later.
     
  19. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    lol
     
  20. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    94-Glatzel is also linked to Bremen.

    dang, 94 CFs making resurgence. Between Holer, Mamba, Srbeny and potentially Glatzel all playing 1BL this season. The funny part is that none of those 4 were ever called up by Germany at any level while the ones who were called up by Germany have all failed. Believe that Ducksch in 2BL (last called up by Germany U18) is the only relevant 94 CF left.

    these things are always interesting in retrospect. Sure it's not easy to pick youth CFs because of different path to pros, injuries, some take more time than others etc.
     
  21. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    since his Koln move.
    1 goal and 1 assist in 2 games.

    Uth scored today vs Dortmund to make it 1-3.
    https://streamja.com/40Q3

    I really think a lot of clubs don't really look to see if a CF fits the club or not and just get a player based on his performances elsewhere.
    Uth is born in Koln and came from Koln Academy too.

    LOL, Uth scored 2 1BL goals at Schalke and already halfway through at Koln.
     
  22. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    career RL player 96-Makridis of Gladbach II seems like he could be in 2BL soon. Seems like Gladbach rates him too, he made his pro debut for Gladbach 1st team in Cup and 4 unused bench in 1BL.

    Several second division teams are interested, decision is near
    So there were discussions this week about the future of Makridis, as Max Eberl confirmed to our editorial team. And they were good, because the Borussians are convinced of the attacker's qualities. Marco Rose was able to assess this for a week, especially in the professional training camp in Jerez de la Frontera in Spain. So you don't want to let him go free. Accordingly, a change is still necessary in winter. And in this regard it should / will happen very quickly now. Because in the coming week firstly the winter transfer period ends and secondly the second league starts on Tuesday in the second half of the season.

    There are models that the Borussians at Makridis do not completely give up the opportunity to see him again in his ranks at some point. Either you extend the contract and borrow it, or you sell it now and have a return-buy-back option built in - just like in today's football. And that currently seems to be the favored solution. According to information from our editorial team, two second division teams are very interested in signing Makridis under this condition this winter. And the 23-year-old himself is convinced that one of them is the right choice at this time. Concrete discussions are also underway in this regard.
    https://www.fohlen-hautnah.de/theme...vvr1J-VFQhn96gLDWYmc1qXqmnj7UMmTybQ9L4YNIyn5k

    how long before Greece comes knocking?
     
  23. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
  24. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Platte scores in his 2nd comeback game to tie game 2-2.
    https://streamja.com/QeWR

    sad that this player wasted like bunch of seasons mostly injured but when fit he always seem to produce. Could already be in 1BL by now if he was fit.....
     
  25. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Uth since his return to Koln,
    Assist vs Wolfsburg
    Goal vs Dortmund
    Assist vs Freiburg

    1 goal and 2 assists in 3 games!:thumbsup:
     

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