Southampton vs Arsenal (EPL) 10 Dec 2017

Discussion in 'Arsenal' started by NorthBank, Dec 10, 2017.

  1. Rewinder

    Rewinder Member+

    Jun 24, 2004
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    I'm not one to complain about the commentators, as we often deserve the criticism we get, but today's commentator was absolutely dreadful. A bitter 13 year old spurs fan would have been more professional.
     
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  2. Jamooky

    Jamooky Member+

    Mar 24, 2006
    Cleveland, OH USA
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    For real - he took every opportunity he could to moan about how much he dislikes the way Arsenal do everything.
     
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  3. Jamooky

    Jamooky Member+

    Mar 24, 2006
    Cleveland, OH USA
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Kolasinac down the left was a problem today. Way too many immediate sideways and backward passes from him when there was space in front. We missed a bunch of attacking opportunities because he doesn't want to take the space.
     
  4. mebeSajid

    mebeSajid Member+

    Feb 16, 2009
    Atlanta, GA
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Usually don’t agree with you, but your posts in this thread were spot on.

    Fair play to Southampton. They were excellent and very well prepared.

    Alexis dropping so deep played right into their hands.
     
  5. NorthBank

    NorthBank Member+

    Arsenal; NYRB
    United States
    Mar 29, 2006
    Connecticut
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Ozil too. I saw him back with Xhaka quite a bit.

    I think both he and Sanchez were very frustrated today. In our inability to break them down.

    Our two superstars were full of sound and fury, but…



    Edit: actually they weren't so full of sound and fury… nobody was on our team.
     
  6. bandwagongooner

    bandwagongooner Member+

    Dec 9, 2006
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Alexis and Ozil dropped so deep because Ramsey, who is supposed to be a midfielder, is playing next to Lacazette. Why Ramsey cannot play in his f'ing position after 10 years is unbelievable.
     
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  7. NorthBank

    NorthBank Member+

    Arsenal; NYRB
    United States
    Mar 29, 2006
    Connecticut
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    True
     
  8. Gunning4Chelsea

    Gunning4Chelsea Member+

    Aug 2, 2005
    chicago
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I thought bellerin and Sanchez were absolutely useless
    Lost ball every 5 min
    Piss poor
     
  9. Gunning4Chelsea

    Gunning4Chelsea Member+

    Aug 2, 2005
    chicago
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Sánchez was worst player on the pitch
     
  10. bandwagongooner

    bandwagongooner Member+

    Dec 9, 2006
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It's games like this that explain why Ozil and Alexis were allowed to move on by Real and Barca. As spectacular as they can be often their games don't fit into the style being played on any given day.

    eta - the same criticism can be made of Cesc
     
  11. And_ROOS

    And_ROOS Member+

    Dec 30, 2006
    Melbourne, Aus
    Summed up when an injured Ramsey, in the box, takes the ball thats crossed in perfectly for the left footed Giroud, and Ramsey does some back heel flick towards goal. that short of the keeper being hit by a block of ice or lightning would save 100/100 times.
     
  12. Aaron d

    Aaron d Member+

    May 15, 2005
    Wooster
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    He's playing exactly how he did at the beginning of the year when we were awful. It's like being a goal down makes his brain go to shit and he panics and pushes as high as he can.

    Complete lack of discipline (I wonder from where). Then tons of people are on Xhaka for his play, yet if you need your DM to provide your offense, you're doing football wrong. He didn't play well, but if you believe your deepest midfield is the reason you aren't scoring against a team that is bunkering, I got news for you.
     
  13. mebeSajid

    mebeSajid Member+

    Feb 16, 2009
    Atlanta, GA
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Can we start with an AWOL kangaroo court?
     
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  14. FC RASTA

    FC RASTA Member

    Mar 28, 2005
    California
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Have not visited in a while but tough to watch. Kos gave away the ball at least 5 times from the back...must have been exhausted. Sanchez was not sharp. Xhaxa...just don't see why this guy starts..slow not a play maker nor enforcer.
    Wellbeck was a ghost...please sell him to Everton.
     
  15. DaPrince84

    DaPrince84 Member+

    Aug 22, 2001
    MD
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
     
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  16. Tonerl

    Tonerl Member+

    Arsenal
    May 10, 2006
    Cincinnati, OH
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    If Özil or Ramsey played like Alexis has this season, they’d have been strung up by their sacks by now.
     
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  17. KozIsCul

    KozIsCul Member+

    Feb 6, 2005
    Yeah this. A lot of Arsenal fans have rationalized themselves into believing that Ozil and Alexis are right next to Neymar and Ronaldo as world class players, we're going to see it again any moment now. And in some world that might be true, but not for us. Wenger has turned them into utterly pedestrian players.
     
  18. KozIsCul

    KozIsCul Member+

    Feb 6, 2005
    This is the perfect to the United game really. You can say that we had a good performance (same w the Chelsea game earlier for that matter), and in another situation that might matter but not for us. We didn't win, we didn't get the results we needed. Things could be different if we had a different outcome in games like today. Performance was mediocre, the result was a bit fortunate. If we were taking care of business in these games, you could say the United game was just bad luck and move forward. But we're not so we can't.
     
  19. KozIsCul

    KozIsCul Member+

    Feb 6, 2005
    It's getting to the point where if we're two midfielders and three forwards, we're best off w JFW and AMN. Let Alexis drop deep to get the ball if he wants to.
     
  20. DaPrince84

    DaPrince84 Member+

    Aug 22, 2001
    MD
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    You cannot replace his Pashun and how busy he appears on tv even though he actually doesn't run that much. It's critical.
     
  21. mebeSajid

    mebeSajid Member+

    Feb 16, 2009
    Atlanta, GA
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    He's a high risk high reward player. The turnovers aren't a good reason to get worked up about Alexis. A better reason to get worked up is that he drops so deep (though I wonder if he's been instructed to do this).
     
  22. yossarian

    yossarian Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jun 16, 1999
    Big City Blinking
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    By no means whatsoever do I attribute our insipid performance (and insipid is probably too kind a term) on S'oton's time wasting, but was it my imagination or did all the ball boys completely disappear for the entire second half?
     
  23. mebeSajid

    mebeSajid Member+

    Feb 16, 2009
    Atlanta, GA
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Second half overlapped with their Christmas party. :)

    We need to give more credit to Southampton though - this was more a case of them playing well (and covering the wide areas well - something United didn't do).
     
  24. bandwagongooner

    bandwagongooner Member+

    Dec 9, 2006
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That announcer was a dick, but he wasn't wrong when he said it could have been 3-0 after 10 minutes. They defended really well and got in the way of anything adding up to a good chance.
     
  25. NorthBank

    NorthBank Member+

    Arsenal; NYRB
    United States
    Mar 29, 2006
    Connecticut
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

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