Soccer metrics to evaluate players

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  1. mjlee22

    mjlee22 Quake & Landon fan

    Nov 24, 2003
    near Palo Alto, CA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Interesting statistical analysis on why Leicester's attack has declined so much this year. Wish we could see an analysis like this on the Quakes.

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  2. mjlee22

    mjlee22 Quake & Landon fan

    Nov 24, 2003
    near Palo Alto, CA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  3. JazzyJ

    JazzyJ BigSoccer Supporter

    Jun 25, 2003
    #353 JazzyJ, Jan 3, 2017
    Last edited: Jan 3, 2017
    The Quakes don't have an "attack" to analyze :-(. It would be like trying to do a chemical analysis on a vacuum.

    "In the desert, you can't remember your name 'cause there ain't no one for to for to give you no name."
     
  4. markmcf8

    markmcf8 Member+

    Oct 18, 1999
    Vancouver, WA, USA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It would look like this:

    Service to forwards: crap
    Possession in attacking half: crap
    Completed pass percentage: average
    Completed pass in attacking half percentage: poor
    Long balls: TFM
    Average number of players in offensive half when Quakes are in possession: 4
    Tackles won: below league average
    Passes resulting in loss of possession: above league average

    I'm sure you can fill in the rest.


    (TFM = Too F-ing Many)

    Very disappointed! :thumbsdown: :thumbsdown: :thumbsdown:
     
  5. SoccerMan94043

    SoccerMan94043 Member+

    May 29, 2003
    San Jose
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    San Jose Earthquakes
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    United States
    From N&A thread (up and to the right is best): [​IMG]
     
  6. mjlee22

    mjlee22 Quake & Landon fan

    Nov 24, 2003
    near Palo Alto, CA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    This is a verrrry interesting graph. I don't fully understand it.
    • Yellow = defender, blue = MF, green = forward?
    • Where's Giovinco?
    • What does it mean that Shea makes 2 key passes per game but they are only 72% accurate?
    • Or does it mean that Shea makes 2 key passes per game, but in general only 72% of all his passes are accurate?
    • Does this mean Sasha Kljestan and MPG are the best DPs in MLS? hahaha
    • Does it mean Godoy is better than Alonso?
    What does all this mean and does anyone within MLS (coaches, pundits, etc) believe it?
     
  7. JazzyJ

    JazzyJ BigSoccer Supporter

    Jun 25, 2003
    #357 JazzyJ, Jan 5, 2017
    Last edited: Jan 5, 2017
    Tommy Thompson, BTW, averaged 2.0 key passes per 90 last year, with an 82.2 passing completion percentage. He is somewhere just north of Gio Dos Santos and just south of Steven Gerrard on that graph.

    Compare that to Salinas (1.8 key passes per 90, with a 71.4% pass completion percentage). Tommy averages more key passes and completes passes at a rate that is over 10% higher! Quintero has 1.7 key passes per 90 and an 81.7% pass completion rate. Dawkins has about the same pass completion rate as TT, but only 1.2 key passes per 90.

    So on the basis of that comparison, TT is the Quakes best midfielder :thumbsup:. Give the guy a starting job already!

    Salinas: 1.8, 71.4%
    TT: 2.0, 82.2 %
    Quintero: 1.7, 81.7%
    Dawkins: 1.2, 82.5%
     
  8. hc897

    hc897 Member+

    May 3, 2009
    San Jose, CA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Yeah, this is a graph that invites a nice, hefty article to go along with it. Not sure if there is one or not, but trying to glean anything from it simply by looking is a difficult task.
     
  9. JazzyJ

    JazzyJ BigSoccer Supporter

    Jun 25, 2003
    It's actually not that hard. You can confirm the data from whoscored. The Y axis is key passes per 90 minutes. The X axis is successful passes percentage. I don't know what the colors mean, but the placement is straightforward. I have an analysis of Quakes midfielders for these same metrics above.
     
  10. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

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    United States
    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
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    United States
    Here is a link to the blog post, and the data for just the Quakes players...
     
  11. SoccerMan94043

    SoccerMan94043 Member+

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  13. bsman

    bsman Member+

    May 30, 2001
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    I don't want any stats. They simply get in the way of my unsubstantiated, unsupported opinions! :mad:
     
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  14. don gagliardi

    don gagliardi Member+

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  16. mjlee22

    mjlee22 Quake & Landon fan

    Nov 24, 2003
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    Fingers don't lie, but liars do finger
     
  17. don gagliardi

    don gagliardi Member+

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    If the glove doesn't fit, you must acquit.
     
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  18. SoccerMan94043

    SoccerMan94043 Member+

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    [​IMG]
     
  19. don gagliardi

    don gagliardi Member+

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  20. don gagliardi

    don gagliardi Member+

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    Mods, we may need to spin off another separate thread. Fair warning. :)
     
  21. KMJvet

    KMJvet BigSoccer Supporter

    May 26, 2001
    Quake Country
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    How about people just keep the threads actually on topic. It isn't that hard.
     
  22. don gagliardi

    don gagliardi Member+

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    Feb 28, 2004
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    Which topic, as I recall, is lies, damn lies and statistics. :)
     
  23. mjlee22

    mjlee22 Quake & Landon fan

    Nov 24, 2003
    near Palo Alto, CA
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  24. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

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    Feb 13, 2010
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    United States
  25. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

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    Feb 13, 2010
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    San Jose Earthquakes
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