Are they officially San Diego's team now?? http://espn.go.com/blog/los-angeles/soccer/post/_/id/8321/mexico-primera-division-goes-to-the-dogs Specifically, would you go down to TJ to support the Xolos, considering the potential risks involved? I would, since its really close for me being in Chula Vista. Somehow I doubt people north of downtown will feel the same....
I want to at least once, just to check it out, but there's something about the fact they'll be on the big Mexicannetworks that's exciting, too. I get them all.
Great news for TJ residents. I'm sure many Sandiegans will attend games. I'm a little disappointed that the San Diego TV stations made no mention of the accomplishment. Only the Union Tribune's Mark Zeigler has been writing about it. Now they need to reinforce the team. Its not good enough to compete in the Primera with the current lineup. Tijuana deserves a team that will be a permanent fixture in the league.
Because its NEWS. Good news. Tijuana is less twenty miles away from the busiest border in the world, many people from San Diego visit Tijuana, some English language TV stations actually transmit from TJ (XETV 6 (CW), and XHDTV (MyTV), not to mention a lot of radio stations including sports XX1090. They're our neighbor and I think given all the negative news someone should have said something. Besides the Padres suck.
Interesting point. But they are less than 20 miles away from San Diego city center. In fact, our CW affiliate is apparently based down there, as well as several radio stations of both languages. It's almost like a twin city that just speaks a different language and goes by different rules of law.
I will pull for them more or less like I do with the LA Galaxy -- not my team, but the one geographically closest. Maybe less because I don't follow the Mexican league at all, at least not yet. I'm sure there will be a contingent of fans on this side of the border rooting for them and that this group will grow, especially among Spanish speakers. I've thought about catching a game down there. They have a cross-border bus that will pick you up in San Ysidro and drop you back off on the US side of the border after the game. I still might do it, but I'm more likely to drive up to Hell A for a Galaxy game.
So excited for the city of TJ and wish MLS would embrace promotion and relegation so we could get a division I club in San Diego. I will be venturing down to TJ to take in a few games. A lot cheaper than going to LA and easy to get to. Trolley---->border. I am no longer supporting MLS until they institute Promotion and Relegation. Even if SD gets a team through expansion I am not supporting the league.
Wow you're really dead set on your choices... San Diegans will go and cross the border, and I sincerely hope Xolos build a strong fan base and grow as a club however I do not share your opinion on promotion and relegation with MLS, it has developed into a more watchable product and will improve over time and just because it doesn't have P & M people shouldn't stop watching if you enjoy soccer and live in the USA then I don't see any justifiable reason to not support MLS(even in terms of quality or P & M etc.)
As long as Garber is in charge we're never going to see promotion and relegation. On a side note, I wish baseball had that. It would make all the games mean more...although the Padres would probably be in AA by now LOL
An arbitrary line is what separates me from Mexico. Unlike MLS, I can cross freely through the border and support a Club that markets to me and actually wants to put a quality product on the field. I will not support a league that advocates a Caste system, keeping lower divisions permanently lower division and consistently battling bankruptcy. Fans support a town/city. Not leagues. I am a fan of San Diego Padres and not a fan of MLB.
MLB desperately needs to overhaul the system. If padres were battling a relegation battle to avoid AAA i bet that stadium would be packed! Plus, if they get relegated only the die hards would be at games leaving the fair weather fans at home. MLB has a pyramid ready for prom/rel. but franchise system is choking off any chance of pro/rel. blagh.
I think you mean to attend games, and that's fine if there was a better product 15 mins away from me I would make that trip too but alas other things come into play but hey have fun with that that caste system is popular here, its an American thing sure there's many positives for Pro-Rel and yeah would it make huge a boom to US club soccer but there are several obstacles that aren't going to magically go away things take time, MLS, USMNT, soccer in the US isn't up to the level of other countries but it will get there, you have to remember the history of this sport in this country I support MLS, and I don't have a home team I don't like LA(don't ask) don't like chivas I watch dallas, houston, portland, DC, RSL whoever is on I'll watch because there's soccer to watch in the afternoon and at night there's plenty of people that just watch other leagues just because of their product, leagues like EPL, bundesliga etc. people watch NCAA basketball even if they don't have a team given, usually they ally with one team that they like or for whatever reason but the example is there if the MLS not having Pro-Rel is good enough reason not to watch, then go ahead, it's your time after all
you keep thinking that. relegation promotion wont solve that. in the meantime go enjoy the xolos, since you wont be an MLS fan anytime soon.
I already have been and will in the future. Your anti pro/rel is easy for you to be against since you are in San Jose with a MLS outlet in your city. I'm a soccer fan who believes that teams should be placed in the proper division through performance on the field and not by lump sum payments to the Don.
How far is the Xolos stadium from the border crossing? I know there's a streetcar from downtown that goes very close. If it's close it might make sense for groups of 5-6 to meet at the border & share a van-taxi to the stadium & one on the way back.
That would be fun to watch I think. Much more exciting than being 20 games out thinking "oh well maybe next season!"
im from the same city as your location, so i didnt grow up cheering on the earthquakes. Soccer has been in the US for a long time, clearly without the use of single entity. why hasnt a stable 1st-4th division come through, if the USSF was in charge the whole time? i clearly think the reason why you dont see a stable soccer pyramid, with promotion/relegation, is because the USSF sucked at it. the USSF has at least 100 years to get some kind of structure where teams would get placed in their proper divisions based on performance. but it never happened. And now that you see a stable 1st division making money, you want it to throw out its organizational structure because it isnt "proper"? financial solvency is what was holding back soccer in the USA. investors wanted a plan that would ensure success of all teams, not just one. im sure youve heard this all before, but you need to realize Pro/Rel wont fix anything right now. all it will do is devalue what MLS has already created. I could see MLS eventually spanning over 40 cities, 20 each in a conference. two separate tables, where all teams can benefit from 1st division status. making one of those conferences "MLS division 2" wont make money in this sporting culture. and the Don doesnt get paid the lump sum payments, the BoG does. however, i will admit to the changing nature of sporting cultures over time. i keep emphasizing the now, because, in all honesty, i DONT know what direction MLS will take.
The stadium is about 3-4 miles from the border.... once you cross through there is a taxi plaza where you can catch a ride there for 5 bucks. Not sure if the Xolos have organized shuttles yet though, I wouldn't be surprised if they have some buses go via the San Ysidro trolley station.
Xolos have had a deal where you pay either $35 or $50 for a match ticket, depending on the seat, and round trip buss pass from a parking lot near the border to the game. I honestly don't know how much a ticket costs at the stadium and, as previously mentioned, you can get a cab there from the border for five bucks, so I don't know how good of a deal it really is.