Similarities between the MYTHICAL Jesus and Hercules..absolutely AMAZING!!

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  1. REALfootballRulez

    May 25, 2007
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    Saint Louis Athletica
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    The similarites between Jesus and Hercules below are just AMAZING and if don't realize Jesus is just a mythical figure who NEVER actually existed on earth then you're denying reality!! I can't believe the Christians who are waiting over 2000 years for a mythical figure to appear! [​IMG] Ask any legit Physics professor and he/she will tell you it's IMPOSSIBLE for a figure to just appear out of nowhere anyway. WHEN will Christians realize Jesus is just a MYTH and will NEVER "return" like he promised? Those who have been saying Christianity is just mythology have been proven right for over 2000 years as NONE of the supernatural claims in the bible have EVER come true!

    So you all tell me...don't you think Jesus is just mythology and nothing but a propoganda campaign by the church over THOUSANDS of years? Can't you tell that Jesus is one of HUNDREDS of gods and it is simply the most MARKETED of all gods but nothing indicates he actually lived on earth? After all Charlamagne and Constantine said "Convert or DIE!!". Kind of destroys your credibility when you threaten to MURDER someone if they don't convert!!

    If a person accepts hearsay and accounts from believers as historical evidence for Jesus, then shouldn't they act consistently to other accounts based solely on hearsay and belief?

    To take one example, examine the evidence for Hercules of Greek mythology and you will find it parallels the "historicity" of Jesus to such an amazing degree that for Christian apologists to deny Hercules as a historical person belies and contradicts the very same methodology used for a historical Jesus.

    Note that Herculean myth resembles Jesus in many areas. The mortal and chaste Alcmene, the mother of Hercules, gave birth to him from a union with God (Zeus). Similar to Herod who wanted to kill Jesus, Hera wanted to kill Hercules. Like Jesus, Hercules traveled the earth as a mortal helping mankind and performed miraculous deeds. Similar to Jesus who died and rose to heaven, Hercules died, rose to Mt. Olympus and became a god. Hercules gives example of perhaps the most popular hero in Ancient Greece and Rome. They believed that he actually lived, told stories about him, worshiped him, and dedicated temples to him.Likewise the "evidence" of Hercules closely parallels that of Jesus. We have historical people like Hesiod and Plato who mention Hercules in their writings. Similar to the way the gospels tell a narrative story of Jesus, so do we have the epic stories of Homer who depict the life of Hercules. Aesop tells stories and quotes the words of Hercules. Just as we have a brief mention of Jesus by Joesphus in his Antiquities, Joesphus also mentions Hercules (more times than Jesus), in the very same work (see: 1.15; 8.5.3; 10.11.1). Just as Tacitus mentions a Christus, so does he also mention Hercules many times in his Annals. And most importantly, just as we have no artifacts, writings or eyewitnesses about Hercules, we also have nothing about Jesus. All information about Hercules and Jesus comes from stories, beliefs, and hearsay. Should we then believe in a historical Hercules, simply because ancient historians mention him and that we have stories and beliefs about him? Of course not, and the same must apply to Jesus if we wish to hold any consistency to historicity.

    Some critics doubt that a historicized Jesus could develop from myth because they think there never occurred any precedence for it. We have many examples of myth from history but what about the other way around? This doubt fails in the light of the most obvious example-- the Greek mythologies where Greek and Roman writers including Diodorus, Cicero, Livy, etc., assumed that there must have existed a historical root for figures such as Hercules, Theseus, Odysseus, Minos, Dionysus, etc. These writers put their mythological heroes into an invented historical time chart. Herodotus, for example, tried to determine when Hercules lived. As Robert M. Price revealed, "The whole approach earned the name of Euhemerism, from Euhemerus who originated it." [Price, p. 250] Even today, we see many examples of seedling historicized mythologies: UFO adherents who's beliefs began as a dream of alien bodily invasion, and then expressed as actually having occurred (some of which have formed religious cults); beliefs of urban legends which started as pure fiction or hoaxes;

    People consider Hercules and other Greek gods as myth because people no longer believe in the Greek and Roman stories. When a civilization dies, so do their gods. Christianity and its church authorities, on the other hand, still hold a powerful influence on governments, institutions, and colleges. Anyone doing research on Jesus, even skeptics, had better allude to his existence or else risk future funding and damage to their reputations or fear embarrassment against their Christian friends. Christianity depends on establishing a historical Jesus and it will defend, at all costs, even the most unreliable sources.
     
  2. DoctorD

    DoctorD Member+

    Sep 29, 2002
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    Philadelphia Union
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    But did Jesus have

    the strength of ten
    little plastic men?
     
  3. REALfootballRulez

    May 25, 2007
    Club:
    Saint Louis Athletica
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Just as we have a brief mention of Jesus by Joesphus in his Antiquities, Joesphus also mentions Hercules (more times than Jesus), in the very same work (see: 1.15; 8.5.3; 10.11.1). Just as Tacitus mentions a Christus, so does he also mention Hercules many times in his Annals. And most importantly, just as we have no artifacts, writings or eyewitnesses about Hercules, we also have nothing about Jesus. All information about Hercules and Jesus comes from stories, beliefs, and hearsay. Should we then believe in a historical Hercules, simply because ancient historians mention him and that we have stories and beliefs about him? Of course not, and the same must apply to Jesus if we wish to hold any consistency to historicity.

    WOW!!! Just WOW!!!!!!!!! If Christians don't realize the mythology of the ARAB/Palestinian Jesus now then they're in serious denial!

    Even Christianitytoday.com and the Pope have said Christianity is dying out in the west since the element of FORCE is gone. Now you know it's because it's based on the false belief in a god that NEVER existed!
     
  4. YankHibee

    YankHibee Member+

    Mar 28, 2005
    indianapolis
    This is JUST LIKE how people don't get the connections between Obama and Hitler!
     
  5. benztown

    benztown Member+

    Jun 24, 2005
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    Apparently I don't spread enough reputation...
     
  6. marek

    marek Member

    Jun 27, 2000
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  7. Ismitje

    Ismitje Super Moderator
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    Dec 30, 2000
    The Palouse
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    Real Salt Lake
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    I'm closing this thread. We welcome discussion about the reality/unreality of God or gods, but from a respectful perspective. If you want to openly mock all religion or even one particualr religion, you've some to the wrong forum.
     
  8. Ismitje

    Ismitje Super Moderator
    Staff Member

    Dec 30, 2000
    The Palouse
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
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    United States
    One more thing: don't plagiarize. That's just poor form, and against the Terms of Service. Make your own point, or attribute the information to whomever originated it.
     

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