SF # 2 Colombia vs Chile June 22nd [R]

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  1. pepinointer

    pepinointer Member+

    Mar 12, 2007
    Santiago de Compostela
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Hablaba de ese partido puntual, no del torneo
     
  2. MetroChile

    MetroChile Member+

    Jan 13, 2001
    NJ; Valpo.
    Club:
    Santiago Wanderers
    Nat'l Team:
    Chile
    Not really. Just saying that it's not a clásico and also comparing it to Argentina vs. Brazil is a bit...ridiculous. I don't term it a clásico the same way I don't term Argentina/Chile a clásico, though some people in Chile choose to.
     
  3. Rickdog

    Rickdog Member+

    Jun 16, 2010
    Santiago, Chile
    Club:
    CD Colo Colo
    Nat'l Team:
    Chile
    Yo tambien.

    Chile anotó a los 46 minutos, apenas empezando el 2° tiempo, su primer gol (empezamos ganando)
    Bolivia nos empató con un golazo a los 60 minutos.
    Chile anota el regalo del arbitro, 2° gol de Chile, a los 97 minutos (sin este, el partido se empataba e igual nos clasificábamos despues, masacrando a Panamá).

    Ahora lo que más importa de este partido, es que en ningún momento se vió que Bolivia pudiese ganarle a Chile, pues nosotros dominamos ampliamente al rival (muy parecido al partido contra México), y casi en todo momento se veía venir el gol chileno, pero no se dió así, pues nos costó una enormidad anotar ( a diferencia de los "aztecas", Bolivia jugó su mejor partido del torneo, basicamente metiéndose el equipo completo dentro del arco, lo que no hizo México).
     
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  4. pepinointer

    pepinointer Member+

    Mar 12, 2007
    Santiago de Compostela
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Cierto cierto
     
  5. SiempreCrema

    SiempreCrema Moderator
    Staff Member

    Deportivo Independiente Miraflores
    Peru
    Feb 4, 2015
    Club:
    Universitario de Deportes
    Nat'l Team:
    Peru
    That really doesn't change the fact that it's a rivalry.

    Peru aren't only rivals because of football, you also have to take a look at the Chilean invasion of Peru a long time ago. Similar to Japan vs South Korea, not rivals because of only footballing reasons.

    Paraguay has more wins than Brazil in the 21st century, that doesn't make Paraguay a better team than Brazil.

    Chile are miles above us but as I said our matches outside of santiago, usually end in close affairs.
     
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  6. Yañez

    Yañez Member+

    Oct 11, 2005
    Santiago, Llolleo
    Club:
    Univ de Chile
    Nat'l Team:
    Chile
    Bueno, algunos se fueron por otro lado que yo no quería ir. Sin siquiera hablar de nivel o head o head, yo a Perú no podría verlo como rival porque cuando no juega vs Chile me encuentro hinchando por ellos y deseando que gané. De igual forma, no podría hacer lo mismo contra Colo Colo, equipo que sí considero rival.

    btw SiempreCrema, un agrado debatir contigo. Da gusto así ;)
     
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  7. pepinointer

    pepinointer Member+

    Mar 12, 2007
    Santiago de Compostela
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    El clásico lo define el sentir recíproco de los hinchas ? O que otros elementos ?
     
  8. Pipiolo

    Pipiolo Member+

    Jul 19, 2008
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    So you expect a new coach to completely overhaul a team anytime they take charge of a national team? Was Sampaoli supposed to ditch Bravo, Vidal, Alexis, Medel, Valdivia, etc. in order that the team be called truly his? What defined the Chilean version of Sampaoli was the connection the players had with him, and perhaps other tweaks he put in that led to their success.

    Pizzi likewise has been working on some changes, and it seems that they are ready for fruition in particular the width that Puch gives them. Also, Chile had been missing Aranguiz for a while and it looks like a more efficient side with him in midfield.
     
  9. Pipiolo

    Pipiolo Member+

    Jul 19, 2008
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Yes to the first question.
     
  10. JamieFox

    JamieFox Member

    Dec 9, 2013
    Club:
    Wolverhampton Wanderers
    Some people seem to be now thinking Chile is God after 1 great game. Still, the previous about 6 or 7 games were many of them somewhat mediocre. The Bolivia game wasn't too bad, controlled possession and more chances.

    I do think Vidal is a big miss. He is sometimes Chile's star and other times quiet, but is a good attacking midfielder. Without him is there a possibility they will miss some creativity and link between defensive midfielders and attackers. If Vargas and Sanchez continue their form, and they play well as a team, he might not be missed in the penalty box, but wondering if Chile could be less fluid without him. He was actually quite involved in quite a few of the goals against Mexico. Still, I'm not sure, we'll see.

    I can't see Vargas repeating his heroics, he does have a great goal record at international level, but I think if Chile win Sanchez will be the star this time.

    Whenever I've watched Colombia in the last year or two they seem to have lost a bit of the spark they had in 2014, and some games are sometimes boring and low scoring. I still think this is a close call though.
     
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  11. Yañez

    Yañez Member+

    Oct 11, 2005
    Santiago, Llolleo
    Club:
    Univ de Chile
    Nat'l Team:
    Chile
    I dont think even us chileans think Chile is "god". Colombia is tougher than Mexico, and we are missing our best player.
     
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  12. Emigomez

    Emigomez Red Card

    Dec 15, 2012
    Club:
    CD Chivas de Guadalajara
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    I see Chile passing to the final and taking the Cup. A final of Argentina vs Chile would be better than Argentina Colombia
     
  13. sidspaceman

    sidspaceman Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 20, 2002
    AMÉRICA DE CALI
    Club:
    America de Cali
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
  14. HomietheClown

    HomietheClown Member+

    Dusselheim FC 1971
    Sep 4, 2010
    Club:
    --other--
    Yup. The weather is going to suck big time.
     
  15. 764dak

    764dak Member

    Sep 7, 2012
    Club:
    US Città di Palermo
    I think Colombia will win.
     
  16. Pipiolo

    Pipiolo Member+

    Jul 19, 2008
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
  17. HomietheClown

    HomietheClown Member+

    Dusselheim FC 1971
    Sep 4, 2010
    Club:
    --other--
    If the Chicago Semi would have been yesterday it would have been perfect. The weather was so nice last night.
    Oh , well. Que sera, sera.
     
  18. elviejomen

    elviejomen Member+

    Aug 3, 2007
    Hasbrouck Heights NJ
    Club:
    Junior Barranquilla
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    I love how now Chile is waaaay better than Colombia.
    I guess we can all agree that if Colombia beat Chile will be a freak result
     
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  19. pepinointer

    pepinointer Member+

    Mar 12, 2007
    Santiago de Compostela
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    So go and cry to Columbia
     
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  20. Emigomez

    Emigomez Red Card

    Dec 15, 2012
    Club:
    CD Chivas de Guadalajara
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    I dont think Chile is wayyy better than Colombia. I think it will be a good match it could honestly go either way.

    The reason i say the final would be better Chile Argentina is becuase it was the same final as last time and it went to penalties, hopefully this time the game is defined pre penalties.
     
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  21. TeSo

    TeSo Member

    Oct 15, 2008
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Argentina vs Colombia was also penalties, would be nice to get them back.
     
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  22. elviejomen

    elviejomen Member+

    Aug 3, 2007
    Hasbrouck Heights NJ
    Club:
    Junior Barranquilla
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    if is because of rematch reazons then my bad you bring a good point.
     
  23. Rickdog

    Rickdog Member+

    Jun 16, 2010
    Santiago, Chile
    Club:
    CD Colo Colo
    Nat'l Team:
    Chile
    Hey man, it's called Col o mbia....
    :p
     
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  24. sidspaceman

    sidspaceman Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 20, 2002
    AMÉRICA DE CALI
    Club:
    America de Cali
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
  25. praxis.en

    praxis.en Member

    May 13, 2015
    Club:
    America de Cali
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    yea, just like against Costa Rica
     

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