SF #1 USA vs Argentina June 21st [R]

Apparently Emigomez never watched sesame Street

 

That's one instance. What instead we have is a repeated pattern of "the US sucks" right before the US wins the group. It happens over and over and over and over. At some poitn, people will notice that if your 'better" teams aren't winning, they aren't better. Period.

If you want to say Peru or Bolivia are better than the US, then they damn well better make the semis instead of the US.

And this was an uncharacteristically terrible performance from the US.

 

Conversely those saying those teams are so much better than the US are just trolling. If they're so much better, how come the US is in the semis and they're not? How come we get out of the group and they don't? At some point, you have to WIN the games on the pitch, and if you don't, then that's a problem.

 

Another classless redneck. At least post this in the correct thread.

Argentina 4 - USA 0

 

Argentina has yet to beat a Conmebol side aside of Bolivia by more than one goal between World Cup qualifiers and this Copa America tournament, yet they put four past the USA while strolling most of the match.

 

thanks to our defense and bad finishing

 

There was a time when Bolivia trashed Argentina (with Messi, Di Maria, higuain, Aguero, etc) 6-0 in La Paz. No one (not the Bolivians, not the press, or the fans, or the argentinians, or anyone that watched football) thought for one second Bolivia was a better team than Argentina.

The fact that USA is in the semifinal and Brasil or Uruguay are not, doesnt mean USA is a better team than those. No one but you thinks that, you are making USA fans look like trolls, wich they are not.

 

So Groups B and C were fodder. In the end, all 4 semi-finalists came from Groups A & D.

 

At least they predicted the other Chile result. Aly even said Mexico wouldn't be able to play out of Chile's pressure.

 

I wish him well. He's a good player and I dont want to see these guys get hurt like that.
Good luck in the Finals Argentina!

 

So, by that logic, Argentina aren't better than the US! Results don't matter! yay!

 

And did they make it out of the group in the last two world cups? etc. etc. Gotta love how for the trolls the US is the worst team ever and way worse than Bolivia, and yet the US is the team that ends up doing reasonably well.

 

Someone put up a list of the top South American countries next to the top European countries, and concluded that Europe is better. Is that really a fair comparison, though. Europe has about 50countries while South America has about 12. So is it really fair to do a head by head of say Europe's 8th best (someone in their top 20%) vs South America's 8th best (someone in their bottom half of teams). You could argue that a fairer comparison would be South America's 8th best again about Europe's about 30th best.

Also, the population of Europe is around double the population of South America, so they are bound to have better players and teams, all other factors being even.

When you consider these factors, South America is doing very nicely. They are missing the really, really top teams (Europe took 3 of the last 3 world cups and 5 of the last 6 finalists) but the 4th, 5th and 6th best South American teams are doing quite well vs the 4th, 5th and 6th European teams - maybe better than in the past. If anything, South American strength in depth is improving a little bit.

 

In this copa, the USA eliminated two decent SA sides and got smashed by two top ones.

That tells me we'd be right on the WC cutline in SA.

 

You forgetting the away fixtures in conmebol qualifying. There is a reason it's the toughest qualifying campaign.

 

I would also question the value of comparing the top teams of South America to the top teams of CONCACAF. Again, central America's population is 40 million (excluding Mexico) and the Carribean population is also 40 million. South America's population is more like 400 million.

South America is richer, and with more people than Central America and the Carribean.

Is it really fair to ask , as above, who would win out of Peru (30 million people) and Antigua Barbuda (90,000).

However...with the top two teams, the situation is reversed.

USA is 300 million people, Mexico 120 million.
Argentina 40, Chile 20, Brazil 200 million.

USA's population is not so relevant as it's one of the few countries where most people don't care about football/soccer, however there is a valid question to be asked about why USA's national team is not improving. I mean they made huge leap forward in 1994 (much better than the 1990 team) and in 2002 beat Mexico to reach quarter final of a world cup. But, since then, not so much.

Mexico, that is a valid question about why they are losing 7-0 to a country with one sixth or less their population. I suppose in Chile maybe 80% of sporting interest is football, maybe in Mexico it's lower (?), but even so. Then again, it's a freak result. It is not going to happen again. And this Chile team is the Chilean golden generation. If I had to guess who would have a better team in 2020 or 2025, it could be Mexico.

People forget that Mexico have had some good results at Copa America, like drawing away to Chile (2015) and beating Argentina (2004) and Brazil (2007). Admittedly they tended to lose to those teams in the knockout stages, but then again they didn't even send their best team. But in general Mexico is well capable of holding its own in a Copa America.