Semi-Official 2018 San Jose Earthquakes Roster Thread

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  1. mjlee22

    mjlee22 Quake & Landon fan

    Nov 24, 2003
    near Palo Alto, CA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I thought parties played outside mid vs POR. He may look like Lima, but is he really a defender?
     
  2. JazzyJ

    JazzyJ BigSoccer Supporter

    Jun 25, 2003
    Not a requirement to play defense for the Quakes.
     
  3. Earthshaker

    Earthshaker BigSoccer Supporter

    Sep 12, 2005
    The hills above town
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    He played right back, in place of Lima.
     
  4. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    MLS salary guide has been updated...

    http://mlsplayers.org/resources/salary-guide



    I think the only new Quakes are:

    Dom Oduro $330k
    Guram Kashia $550k


    Amarikwa was at $290 so they're comparable... except Oduro's career has been over for two freaking years.

    $550k for Kashia is ridiculous money, there are reports that MLS doesn't want NYRB to use TAM to re-sign Tim Parker, and that's the best defense in the league...

    Beyond the talent evaluation issues, it seems Jesse Fioranelli has little concept of what MLS players should be making...
     
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  5. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    17th out of 23

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  6. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    One game remaining for every team but RSL, but still this is interesting...

    Dollars spent per point

    5 highest:
    Toronto: $804,824.45
    Chicago: $501,016.87
    San Jose: $395,635.38
    LAG: $364,729.33
    Colorado: $347,913.25

    5 lowest:
    Atlanta: $168,207.68
    Real Salt Lake: $165,967.67
    Dallas: $163,764.16
    Columbus: $160,749.04
    NYRB: $118,602.82
     
  7. don gagliardi

    don gagliardi Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    Feb 28, 2004
    san jose
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Those numbers are unofficial, I'm sure. Probably not cognizant of referee slush accounts. :)
     
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  8. raindawg

    raindawg Member

    Sep 22, 2000
    SF Bay Area
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Obviously doesn't include other $ items such as transfer fees, but pretty surprising that Atlanta isn't even in the top 5.
     
  9. SalinasQuakesFan

    Mar 27, 2010
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    It helps to score a lot of points to get that number down i.e. what would the Quakes come in at if they had just double the amount of points they do have?
     
  10. raindawg

    raindawg Member

    Sep 22, 2000
    SF Bay Area
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I was actually looking at the compensation ranking (Atlanta is #8) rather than $'s spent/point.
     
  11. bsman

    bsman Member+

    May 30, 2001
    MadCity
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Whelp, Fisher sure got his money’s worth...
     
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  12. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  13. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The Quakes really need to stop signing expensive foreign defenders, especially aging ones from Europe who are way overpriced, most of the best defenses in MLS are built around draft picks, homegrowns, and MLS vets, with maybe a few foreign signings sprinkled in. We're at the other end of the spectrum... and close to the MLS record for most goals allowed in a season.

    Jesse Fioranelli really needs to take a look at the New York Red Bulls defense, since it's the best in the league. How much do their defenders make? How old are they? Where did they come from and how were they acquired? It's not rocket science, see what's working and try to copy it.

    NYRB's defense is anchored by 26 year old Long (who came from USL after failing to stick at two MLS teams) making 73k and 25 year old Parker (draft pick who they traded for) making 115k. Their other main defenders are Lawrence 255k (26, Jamaican, signed after a trial), Murillo 89k (22, Panamanian, signed after a season-long loan), Escobar 145k (23, Panamanian, on loan), plus Lade 120k and Duncan 54k from their academy.

    At the other end of the spectrum 3/4 of the Revs starting defense (the fourth was draft pick Andrew Farrell making 267k) and another defender on their bench are making over $3.1 million combined (Mancienne 1.37M, Dielna 910k, Somi 425k, Delemea 400k)... Montreal's defenders are similarly overpriced (Camacho 700k, Diallo 343k, Fanni 1.22M, Sagna 525k)...

    Meanwhile defender of the year Opara makes 343k, runner up Morrow 300k, and two time winner Chad Marshall who is part of one of the other best defenses in the league makes 341k.

    We have tons of overpriced foreign defenders: Quintana 340k, Qwiberg 168k, Kashia 550k, Jungwirth 567k, Cummings 300k, Affolter 232k. Some of those guys are better than others, but as a group, it's a complete disaster for $2.1 million. The cheap defenders are homegrowns (Lima 100k), draft picks (Marie 54k), and from USL (Ockford 67k) and they're hardly much worse (and in Lima's case, better) than the overpaid foreign signings...
     
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  14. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  15. markmcf8

    markmcf8 Member+

    Oct 18, 1999
    Vancouver, WA, USA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Our inability to evaluate talent and get guys to work together is just appalling. And we've been bad at this for years. Is Vako worth $1.5M? I don't think so. I like Hyka and I'd want to keep him, but he is a bit spendy. Still, if we jettison some of the other guys on your list, that should free up some cap space for us.

    And again, MLB players cost a lot more than our soccer players. We can do better.

    Go Quakes!!

    - Mark
     
  16. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  17. SoccerMan94043

    SoccerMan94043 Member+

    May 29, 2003
    San Jose
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    81K in high school not bad for Gilbert. On the other hand, if I was below him at or near league minimum, I'd be pretty pissed.
     
  18. falvo

    falvo Member+

    Mar 27, 2005
    San Jose & Florence
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    How do these guys live on what is after taxes, $3,000 a month in this valley?

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  19. mjlee22

    mjlee22 Quake & Landon fan

    Nov 24, 2003
    near Palo Alto, CA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Jesse is an idiot to have refused to resign Bernardez, who I think was only making in the mid $300k, and then sign Kashia at $200k more, when they are so similar in age and ability. To me, Bernardez was much better last year than Kashia was this year.

    It’s too bad there’s no soccer person telling Fisher what a dolt Jesse is.
     
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  20. falvo

    falvo Member+

    Mar 27, 2005
    San Jose & Florence
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy

    They could have used Bernardez this year. He couldn't do any worse....
     
  21. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    How many of those guys are living around here?

    Akanyirige almost certainly lives with his parents, since he's freaking 16, so that's zero rent.
    Wehan probably shares with other Quakes players, same with Partida for the brief period when he was here. Whatever their situation I'm sure they were sharing a rental with others and not paying anywhere close to $3k per month.
    There rest have been in Reno all year, where rent is probably considerably cheaper...
     
  22. Seismothusiast

    Seismothusiast Member+

    Jul 14, 2006
    Modesto
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    I'm not in disagreement on the cost, but 31 years old versus 36 in not that similar in age in soccer years. That came of course after signing a much younger Quintana flopped. Quintana is over ten years younger than Bernardez, but cost the same, so this move was loved until he hit the field.
     
  23. SoccerMan94043

    SoccerMan94043 Member+

    May 29, 2003
    San Jose
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Same way I did 30 years ago making 20K a year... renting a place with roommates.
     
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  24. mjlee22

    mjlee22 Quake & Landon fan

    Nov 24, 2003
    near Palo Alto, CA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Oh My bad. I thought Bernardez was 34 and Kashia 32. So instead, they are 5 years apart. But still, Bernardez appeared to be faster or at least have much better defensive skills than Kashia. Muma seemed to be able to still get the better of faster attackers. He also always marked the best player himself, whereas Kashia prefers to hang back and be the 2nd defender. I just never understood Jesse’s thinking on Centerbacks. He seemed to get it all wrong.
     
  25. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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