Seleção General Discussion, 2018 and beyond

Discussion in 'Brazil' started by Century's Best, Jul 17, 2018.

  1. MerlinRM

    MerlinRM Member+

    May 5, 2014
    NorthEast USA
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Maybe I'm asking for too much but I'd like to see at least 10.

    Willian, Ferandinho, RA, Paulinho, Felipe Luis, TS, Miranda, Dani Alves/Fagner, Cassio, Danilo, Taison, Fred, and Marcelo shouldn't be on the squad.
     
  2. Mengão86

    Mengão86 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Flamengo
    Brazil
    Nov 16, 2005
    Maryland, RJ/ES/PE
    Club:
    Flamengo Rio Janeiro
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Goleiros
    Alisson

    Hugo

    Neto

    DEFENSORES

    Alexsandro

    Dedé

    Fabinho

    Fagner

    Filipe

    Filipe Luis

    Marquinhos

    Thiago Silva

    MEIAS

    Andreas Pereira

    Arthur

    Casemiro

    Fred

    Lucas Paquetá

    Phillipe Coutinho

    Renato Augusto

    ATACANTES

    Douglas Costa

    Firmino

    Neymar

    Pedro

    Willian

    Ederson was left off for personal reasons that he is dealing with.
     
  3. MerlinRM

    MerlinRM Member+

    May 5, 2014
    NorthEast USA
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Fagner still getting called :rolleyes:

    Fabinho being grouped with the RBs?

    I'm surprisingly ok with the Filipe Luis instead of Marcelo inclusion.

    Thiago Silva, I actually understand now. Rest of the CBs are interesting. Would have liked to see Jemerson somewhere in there but I knew Dede was going to get a look.

    RA :eek:

    Willian still? Why not Malcom or Vincius?

    Andreas Pereira is an interesting name. I know Belgium were sniffing around him a while back

    Overall I actually like the call up. Hope everything is ok with Ederson. I really think he can challenge Alisson this cycle.

    EDIT: Whoa just realized Gabriel Jesus was dropped:eek:
     
  4. leonidas

    leonidas Moderator
    Staff Member

    May 25, 2005
    NYC
    Club:
    Palmeiras Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Decent list overall. I would have liked to have seen RA and Filipe Luis dropped simply because I don't think they will be there in 2022. But, Tite did say there is a short term list which is through December, and I guess these guys are those types of players.

    With that said, I think the midfield looks really really strong. Good players, and some with excellent potential who should only get stronger as they develop.

    As for some of the youngsters, it is probably too premature to call up Vinicius and Richarlison. However, a guy like Malcom probably deserved to be called up for his season at Bordeaux.

    Anyways, looking forward to the matches next month!
     
  5. Century's Best

    Century's Best Member+

    Jul 29, 2003
    USA
    Paulinho and Fernandinho are both absent, and I for one think Fernandinho's time is over. He is 33. Paulinho? I could still see him playing, but in 2022 he'll be 34.

    Tite was rather bold. Arthur, formerly of Grêmio and now in Barcelona, is in. Andreas Pereira, who was born in Belgium and has played for Belgium's youth NTs, is in; he actually scored Brazil U20's tying goal against Serbia in the 2015 U20 World Cup.

    6 players who play in Brazil are in.

    Definitely a new ciclo. More than defeating Team USA and El Salvador, Tite is thinking long-term and with Copa América in Brazil in 2019, followed by WCQ (which would start in September or October if CONMEBOL leaves the current format intact), he'll have plenty to work on, but much excellent material to work with as well.

    Anyone going to the games? I went in 2010 and also watched the friendly against Argentina in which we used a youth team back in 2012.
     
  6. Bezhusan

    Bezhusan Member

    Atlético Mineiro
    Brazil
    May 30, 2018
    I liked the list very much, especially the midfield. Gone are Fernandinho and Paulinho, probably for good, and in are very good young names.

    After the Jorginho situation, very smart of Tite to lure Andreas away from Belgium, especially considering that games played in UEFA League of Nations count as official matches. If Belgium called him up, he would be gone for good.

    My only grip with the list is calling Willian, who probably wont stay for 2022 instead of trying Malcom.
     
  7. Mengão86

    Mengão86 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Flamengo
    Brazil
    Nov 16, 2005
    Maryland, RJ/ES/PE
    Club:
    Flamengo Rio Janeiro
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    The rationale according to him is that he is looking to the short term as well with Copa America on the horizon. I guess he plans for Willian to be in the mix for that where the younger players will still need some more experience.
     
  8. old_carioca_in_nyc

    Jan 26, 2007
    Everton Cebolinha from Gremio was called also!
     
  9. Kaka10725

    Kaka10725 Member+

    Jun 1, 2007
    I quite like the list. I also agree with dropping Marcelo and Gabriel Jesus. Good to see new blood
     
  10. IVO !

    IVO ! Member

    Feb 25, 2009
    RIO AND CHICAGO
    Club:
    Flamengo Rio Janeiro
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Frankly, I was shocked not to see GJ on the list. He was always a favorite of Tite.
    Would have liked to see Vinicius on there but Pedro is just too much, fuking crushing it at FLU.
    Very interesting press conference today shown entirely on PFC. I’ll try to post the feed.
     
  11. celito

    celito Member+

    Palmeiras
    Brazil
    Feb 28, 2005
    USA
    Club:
    Palmeiras Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Yep. He has to keep some medalhōes in the team for CA. If it wasn't played at home it might have been different. Still surprised RA was called up. Tite really likes him. He basically admitted he wasn't able to cope with losing RA from a tactical perspective for the WC.
     
  12. MerlinRM

    MerlinRM Member+

    May 5, 2014
    NorthEast USA
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Just watched Richarlison score another goal. He defintely should have taken over Willian's spot yesterday.
     
  13. leonidas

    leonidas Moderator
    Staff Member

    May 25, 2005
    NYC
    Club:
    Palmeiras Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Where did you read that the League of Nations counts as official matches for FIFA purposes? If so, that would be very unfair to the countries who only play "friendlies."
     
  14. Kaka10725

    Kaka10725 Member+

    Jun 1, 2007
    Honestly, we just too stack at the wide forward spot. Several talents will have trouble getting in eventually.
     
  15. leonidas

    leonidas Moderator
    Staff Member

    May 25, 2005
    NYC
    Club:
    Palmeiras Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    And that's not even including guys who are in their mid 20s and could be on the 2022 team -- Luan and Lucas Moura come to mind.
     
  16. omajac

    omajac Member+

    Feb 9, 2002
    East Orange, New Jersey, USA
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Actually both Luan and Lucas Moura(who no coach since Mano seems to like) will both be 29 by WC'22!!
     
  17. old_carioca_in_nyc

    Jan 26, 2007
    In the press conference announcing the escalação this guy next to Tite ( Edu Gaspar?) said that they called "ONE player for each Brazilian club" . .... but for foreign clubs, multiple players got called (example, PSG - Marquinhos and TS)....
    What the hell of a criteria is this? CBF cannot piss off Brazlian clubs???
     
  18. celito

    celito Member+

    Palmeiras
    Brazil
    Feb 28, 2005
    USA
    Club:
    Palmeiras Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    European leagues respect FIFA dates , CBF doesn’t . Corinthians , Flamengo and Cruzeiro will lose those players for the Copa do Brasil SF....I believe one leg at least . I haven’t checked .
     
  19. MerlinRM

    MerlinRM Member+

    May 5, 2014
    NorthEast USA
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Agree but Willian didn't put in the performances needed this Copa to be called up imo.
     
    Estuardo A. Lopez repped this.
  20. leonidas

    leonidas Moderator
    Staff Member

    May 25, 2005
    NYC
    Club:
    Palmeiras Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    I dunno, I think he's still a good option for the next 2 years. I would prefer Douglas Costa to start, though. This is but the first call-up of many. We have one more pair of friendlies before the end of the year I think.
     
  21. Doc_Exec

    Doc_Exec Member

    Jul 7, 2004
    There are two FIFA dates in Oct and two in Nov. So, I'm thinking that there should be four more friendlies after the Sep ones.
     
  22. Anders2555

    Anders2555 Member

    Flamengo
    Brazil
    Aug 23, 2018
    Rio de Janeiro
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    I think this squad is okay but Fagner is a joke, and the matches are completely useless, a gigantic lack of respect with Brasileirão of his own owner.
     
  23. omajac

    omajac Member+

    Feb 9, 2002
    East Orange, New Jersey, USA
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Heard that Richarlison has been called up in place of Pedro, who was injured!!
     
  24. omajac

    omajac Member+

    Feb 9, 2002
    East Orange, New Jersey, USA
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    I guess poor Lucas Moura with his 2 goal performance for Spurs vs Man U can't buy his way in the team!!:(
     
  25. MerlinRM

    MerlinRM Member+

    May 5, 2014
    NorthEast USA
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Lucas Moura is such an odd case. Really had high hopes for him in Sao Paulo but he consistently made bad career decisions. Would be nice to see him succeed with Tottenham but I don't see where he fits in the Selecao with younger guys making their cases.

    Ricarlison got called up for Pedro. I thought he had shot himself in the foot last week after he openly talked about his disappointment about not being called up.
     

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