Scoring situation

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  1. HomietheClown

    HomietheClown Member+

    Dusselheim FC 1971
    Sep 4, 2010
    Club:
    --other--
    I am going to put a positive spin on the scoring situation and say we are now scoring goals in many and various ways compared to past cycles.

    We can score with forwards, midfielders and defenders. We can score during the run of play and on set pieces.
    We can score when we have the lead and when we are losing. In defensive battles and in open styles of games.

    There is diversity in our goal scoring compared to cycles past when the majority of it was toque-toque-toque our # 10 passes it to a forward who slots it home.
     
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  2. HomietheClown

    HomietheClown Member+

    Dusselheim FC 1971
    Sep 4, 2010
    Club:
    --other--
    @pibe10
    I think we need a cleanup in aisle 7 please. The website was malfunctioning and posted my post multiple times.:p
     
  3. pepinointer

    pepinointer Member+

    Mar 12, 2007
    Santiago de Compostela
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Im going to put a positive spin on the repeated post multiple times
     
  4. pibe10

    pibe10 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jun 30, 2005
    Petach Tikva, Israel
    Club:
    Atletico Nacional
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
  5. Tio Nicci

    Tio Nicci Member+

    Nov 13, 2008
    Houston, Texas
    Club:
    Deportivo Cali
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
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  6. pibe10

    pibe10 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jun 30, 2005
    Petach Tikva, Israel
    Club:
    Atletico Nacional
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Duvan or Borja. Bacca has to start and sitting on the bench until he'll gain his Milan form back. Quiñones should forus on his career in Mexico. I can find on the top of my head at least 10 players that should be called on his expense.
     
  7. lvbeto

    lvbeto Member

    Jul 27, 2007
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    it might be time we go back to a 2 striker attack. Having one guy trying to do it all by himself isn't working.
     
  8. JPAcolombia9

    JPAcolombia9 Member

    Oct 27, 2006
    Thats very true. Wouldn't mind seeing that again. All I know is Duvan should get a chance to be one of the 2 strikers if it happens anytime soon. I don't think we've had someone with his sort of physical presence up top for a while.
     
  9. dirtysanchez

    dirtysanchez Member

    Jul 11, 2007
    Club:
    Junior Barranquilla
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Duvan and Bacca partnership may work.

    Bacca likes to time his runs behind the defenders.

    Duvan plays well with a defender on his hip, he only makes runs when he notices the winger will probably cross it.
     
  10. crzdcolombian

    crzdcolombian Member+

    Jul 17, 2006
    Avon,CT
    Club:
    FC Internazionale Milano
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    New coach that actually wants to win/train the team/play friendlies seems like what we need

    Jackson and Bacca had 30 goals and he didnt play them at Copa America. Form does change with players but he defiantly has favorites.

    The excuses people made for him is we havent found a new Abel. Or Abels not playing.... Abel isn't that great of a player. Him not playing a game or for a while shouldn't make us go from a top 10 team to the luckiest team on earth.

    Then we don't score we don't have Falcao....... or we don't win because we don't have a leader.... Yepes retired. Our defense is fine.... we just played scared ultra defensive football.

    Also WHY IS MACNELLY CALLED !! I give 0 shits what he does for Nacional. He has been a pecho Frio for over 10 FKING YEARS !!! WHY does he get called !!
     
  11. pepinointer

    pepinointer Member+

    Mar 12, 2007
    Santiago de Compostela
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Goleadores colombianos en europa en primera division:

    1. Falcao 190 goals (8 seasons)
    2. Bacca 114 golas ( 5 and one half seasons)
    3.Jackson 97 goals (3 seasons and a half)
    4. James 80 goals (7 seasons)
    5. Angel 72 (6 season and a half)
    6. Rodallega 63 goals ( 7 seasons) ....im not counting one season in serie b
    7.Ramos 61 goals ( 6 seasons) .....im not counting 2 serie b seasons
    8. Muriel 50 goals (6 seasons) not counting serie b season
    9 Guarin 46 goals ( 9 seasons)
    10. Cuadrado 45 goals ( 6 seasons and a half).
    11. Asprilla 44 goals ( 6 seasons)
    12. Victor Montaño 42 goals ( 7 seasons) im not counting 4 seasons in serie b ...he deserved more chances in nt
    13. Ricard 40 goals ( 5 seasons and a half)
    14 Izquierdo 38 goals ( 3 seasons)
    15. Montero 37 goals ( 2 seasons and a half)
    16. Duvan Zapata 34 goals( 4 seasons)
    17. Pipe Pardo 31 goals (3 seasons)
    18. Teo Gutierrez 23 goals ( 1 season and a half) he isnt so bad..like so many want to show..
    19. John Cordoba 22 goals ( 4seasons)
    20Wason Renteria 21 goals (3 seasons) good numbers...:eek:
    21 Quintero 18 goals ( 4 seasons)
    22. Yepes 18 goals ( 12 seasons)
    23. Ivan Cordoba 18 goals (12 seasons and a half)
    24. Tren Valencia 16 goals (4 seasons)
    25. Ibarbo 15 goals ( 6 seasons and a half) ...then he isnt overrated...
    26. Soto 14 goals ( 9 seasons)

    newbies:

    Davinson 6 goals (1 season)
    Santos borre 4 goals (1 season)
    Casierra 5 goals (1 season)
    Alvarez Balanta 2 goals (1 season)


    im not counting players with less than 10 goals....like aristizabal, pabon, dayro, zuñiga , armero , sanchez, aguilar, valderrama,
     
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  12. pepinointer

    pepinointer Member+

    Mar 12, 2007
    Santiago de Compostela
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    op assistance in first division europe

    1.James 92 assits ( 7 seasons)
    2. Guarin 58 assists
    3. Cuadrado 42 assists ( 7 seasns and a half)
    4. Falcao 39 assists (7 seasons)
    5. Ramos 27 assists ( 6 seasons)
    7. Bacca 26 assists ( 5 seasons and a half)
    8.Valderrama 26 assists ( 4 seasons)
    8.Muriel 24 assists ( 6 seasons)
    9. Armero 23 assists ( 5 seasons)
    10. Rodallega 23 assists ( 8 seasons)
    11. Zuñiga 22 assists ( 7 seasons)
    12. Pipe Pardo 21 assists ( 3 seasons)
    13..Montero 17 assists ( 2 seasons and a half)
    14.. Izquierdo 16 assists ( 2 seasons)
    15. Soto 16 assists
    16. Jackson 16 assits
    17.. Quintero 15 ( 4 seasons)
    18. Ibarbo 15 assists ( 6 seasons and a half)
    19, duvan zapata 8 assists
     
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  13. crzdcolombian

    crzdcolombian Member+

    Jul 17, 2006
    Avon,CT
    Club:
    FC Internazionale Milano
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Cassiera had 5 goals!!! Holy shit I thought he never played :). Good for him hope he gets loaned to a smaller team next season huge jump from bench of Cali to Ajax
     
  14. kromekote

    kromekote Member+

    May 22, 2012
    Club:
    America de Cali

    great work Pepino...
     
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  15. Azucarero

    Azucarero Member+

    May 9, 2008
    If Dolberg gets sold, he should stay.
     
  16. dapip

    dapip Member+

    Sep 5, 2003
    South Florida
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Look at Duvan, scoring at the pace of Rodallega....
     
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  17. pepinointer

    pepinointer Member+

    Mar 12, 2007
    Santiago de Compostela
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    4 typo mistake
     
  18. pepinointer

    pepinointer Member+

    Mar 12, 2007
    Santiago de Compostela
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    goleadores era pekerman :

    21 de James (Tunez, chile(2), Jordania ecuador (2), peru, uruguay (2), costa de marfil, grecia , bolivia (2) japon brazil y canada, USA, Paraguay, venezuela y Camerun)
    16 de Falcao (mexico, uruguay, chile(3), paraguay (2) bolivia, peru , belgica, el salvador, Bahrein (2), Kuwait, Costa Rica, España)
    12 de Bacca (camerun , senegal, El salvador (2), usa, Bahrein, peru, bolivia, ecuador (2) Paraguay, USA)
    10 de Teo (uruguay (2), chile (2), peru , senegal , bolivia, grecia ,usa, peru)
    6 de cuadrado (mexico, jordania, brazil , japon,haiti y ecuador)
    5 de Jackson (guatemala (2) camerun, japon (2))
    5 de Cardona (kuwait, peru ,bolivia, España y paraguay)
    3 de Aguilar (guatemala ,kuwait y urguay)
    3 de Mina ( Uruguay, Camerun (2))
    2 de Yepes ( paraguay)
    2 de guarin (serbia y jordania)
    2 de armero (bolivia y grecia )
    2 de ramos (eslovenia, bahrein)
    2 de macnelly (bolivia y venezuela)
    1 de muriel (guatemala)
    1 de dorlan (camerun)
    1 de valdez (bolivia) rebote
    1 de zuñiga (uruguay)
    1 de ibarbo (belgica)
    1 de quintero (costa de marfil)
    1 de renteria (bahrein)
    1 de mojica (bahrein)
    1 de murillo (brasil)
    1 de sebas perez (ecuador)
    1 de roger martinez (haiti)
    1 de dayro moreno (haiti)
    1 de fabra (costa rica )
    1 de marlos moreno (costa rica )
    1 Cristian zapata (usa )
    1 de izquierdo (camerun)

    100 goles

    asistentes de pekerman
    17 de james ( (brazil , uruguay (2), paraguay , belgica, japon(2), usa ,esolvenia, peru, bolivia, ecuador, paraguay, venezuela, españa, camerun y ecuador)
    14 de cuadrado (guatemala, bolivia grecia (2), costa de marfil , uruguay, costa rica ,peru, ecuador, costa rica, uruguay, españa y camerun)
    6 de bacca (senegal , guatemala, bahrein, bolivia, venezuela y paraguay)
    5 de armero :eek: ( mexico ,guatemala, bolivia, peru, chile)
    4 de falcao ( uruguay ,chile ,el salvador, bahrein)
    4 de cardona (usa , ecuador, usa y paraguay)
    3 de macnelly (guatemala ,paraguay y Bolivia)
    2 abel (uruguay , grecia y uruguay)
    2 de aldo (chile y bolivia)
    2 de ibarbo (senegal y jordania)
    2 de arias (el salvador y USA)
    2 de muriel (chile y uruguay)
    1 de pabon (peru)
    1 de alcatraz (camerun)
    1 de soto (paraguay)
    1 de sanchez ( camerun)
    1 de marrugo (camerun)
    1 de zuñiga o abel... ( uruguay)
    1 de perea ( belgica)
    1 de teo (costa de marfil)
    1 de ramos (japon)
    1 de Cardona (usa)
    1 de quintero (bahrein)
    1 de guarin (bahrein)
    1 de mojica (bahrein)
    1 de renteria(bahrein)
    1 de zapata (peru)
    1 de marlos moreno (bolivia)
    1 de dayro moreno (haiti)
    1 de guillermo celis (haiti)
    1 de sebastian perez (haiti)
    1 de borja (ecuador)
    1 de fabra (camerun)
    1 de gio moreno
    penales producidos :

    james (2 chile)
    zuñiga (1 peru)
    Cuadrado 2 ( jordania y bolivia)
    Ibarbo (1 tunez)
    bacca (1 brazil)
    ramos (1 japon)
    Falcao (1 kuwait)
    Farid Diaz (1 Usa)

    -71goles de jugada colectiva.....
    -8 goles de rebote (james ecuador, falcao mexico, yepes paraguay, valdez bolivia, bacca al salvador, aguilar a kuwait, murillo a brasil, Fabra a costa rica) .
    -1 tiro libre james (chile)
    - 10 de penal
    1 autogol


    15 producidos de pelota quieta: Jakcson contra guatemala, James contra chile, valdez contra bolivia, yepes (2 contra paraguay), Teo contra senegal, ibarbo contra belgica, teo contra grecia, james contra costa de marfil, murillo contra brazil, teo contra peru, zapata contra usa, bacca contra paraguay)

    8 cabezas (muriel, valdez, yepes, james, falcao, teo(2) , bacca )[/QUOTE][/QUOTE]
     
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  19. elviejomen

    elviejomen Member+

    Aug 3, 2007
    Hasbrouck Heights NJ
    Club:
    Junior Barranquilla
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    James va a superar Los 100 goles y 100 asistencias en Europa seguramente queda Como 2ndo Maximo goleador Colombiano en Europa... , Maximo goleador en la seleccion y seguro Maximo asistidor por ensima de Los 26 del Pibe Segun wiki

    Impresionante
     
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  20. pepinointer

    pepinointer Member+

    Mar 12, 2007
    Santiago de Compostela
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    stats at end of 2017

    goleadores era pekerman :

    22 de James (Tunez, chile(2), Jordania ecuador (2), peru, uruguay (2), costa de marfil, grecia , bolivia (2) japon brazil y canada, USA, Paraguay, venezuela y Camerun, Perú)
    18 de Falcao (mexico, uruguay, chile(3), paraguay (2) bolivia, peru , belgica, el salvador, Bahrein (2), Kuwait, Costa Rica, España, Paraguay y Brasil)
    13 de Bacca (camerun , senegal, El salvador (2), usa, Bahrein, peru, bolivia, ecuador (2) Paraguay, USA, China)
    10 de Teo (uruguay (2), chile (2), peru , senegal , bolivia, grecia ,usa, peru)
    6 de cuadrado (mexico, jordania, brazil , japon,haiti y ecuador)
    5 de Jackson (guatemala (2) camerun, japon (2))
    5 de Cardona (kuwait, peru ,bolivia, España y paraguay)
    3 de Aguilar (guatemala ,kuwait y urguay)
    3 de Mina ( Uruguay, Camerun (2))
    2 de Yepes ( paraguay)
    2 de guarin (serbia y jordania)
    2 de armero (bolivia y grecia )
    2 de ramos (eslovenia, bahrein)
    2 de macnelly (bolivia y venezuela)
    2 de borja (China)
    2 de Cristian Zapata ( Usa y China)
    1 de muriel (guatemala)
    1 de dorlan (camerun)
    1 de valdez (bolivia) rebote
    1 de zuñiga (uruguay)
    1 de ibarbo (belgica)
    1 de quintero (costa de marfil)
    1 de renteria (bahrein)
    1 de mojica (bahrein)
    1 de murillo (brasil)
    1 de sebas perez (ecuador)
    1 de roger martinez (haiti)
    1 de dayro moreno (haiti)
    1 de fabra (costa rica )
    1 de marlos moreno (costa rica )
    1 de izquierdo (Camerun)
    1 de pipe tardo (China)



    asistentes de pekerman
    18 de james ( (brazil , uruguay (2), paraguay , belgica, japon(2), usa ,esolvenia, peru, bolivia, ecuador, paraguay, venezuela, españa, camerun, Corea y ecuador)
    14 de cuadrado (guatemala, bolivia grecia (2), costa de marfil , uruguay, costa rica ,peru, ecuador, costa rica, uruguay, españa y camerun)
    8 de bacca (senegal , guatemala, bahrein, bolivia, venezuela, paraguay y china (2))
    5 de armero :eek: ( mexico ,guatemala, bolivia, peru, chile)
    5 de falcao ( uruguay ,chile ,el salvador, bahrein, Peru)
    4 de cardona (usa , ecuador, usa y paraguay)
    3 de macnelly (guatemala ,paraguay y Bolivia)^
    3 de arias ( El savador, Usa, y Brasil)
    2 abel (uruguay , grecia y uruguay)
    2 de aldo (chile y bolivia)
    2 de ibarbo (senegal y jordania)
    2 de muriel (chile y uruguay)
    2 de sanchez ( camerun y China)
    1 de pabon (peru)
    1 de alcatraz (camerun)
    1 de soto (paraguay)
    1 de marrugo (camerun)
    1 de zuñiga o abel... ( uruguay)
    1 de perea ( belgica)
    1 de teo (costa de marfil)
    1 de ramos (japon)
    1 de Cardona (usa)
    1 de quintero (bahrein)
    1 de guarin (bahrein)
    1 de mojica (bahrein)
    1 de renteria(bahrein)
    1 de zapata (peru)
    1 de marlos moreno (bolivia)
    1 de dayro moreno (haiti)
    1 de guillermo celis (haiti)
    1 de sebastian perez (haiti)
    1 de borja (ecuador)
    1 de fabra (camerun)
    1 de gio moreno
    1 de chara ( Paraguay)
    1 de Hurtado (China)

    penales producidos :

    james (2 chile)
    zuñiga (1 peru)
    Cuadrado 2 ( jordania y bolivia)
    Ibarbo (1 tunez)
    bacca (1 brazil)
    ramos (1 japon)
    Falcao (1 kuwait)
    Farid Diaz (1 Usa)

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  21. HomietheClown

    HomietheClown Member+

    Dusselheim FC 1971
    Sep 4, 2010
    Club:
    --other--
    Cuadrado scored against Brazil?
     
  22. pepinointer

    pepinointer Member+

    Mar 12, 2007
    Santiago de Compostela
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    In the friendly of 2012
     
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  23. HomietheClown

    HomietheClown Member+

    Dusselheim FC 1971
    Sep 4, 2010
    Club:
    --other--
    I forgot about the match in New Jersey.
     
  24. ryu79

    ryu79 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Oct 17, 2005
    NYC
    Club:
    America de Cali
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    It was freezing that night. Ill never forget it. :)

    Also, James's numbers are remarkable. I thought Cardona had more goals than that, maybe just that a few of them were clutch and now dominate my memory.
     
  25. usfan1234

    usfan1234 Member

    Oct 10, 2017
    How is it possible for Fabra and Arias to have so few assists compared to zuniga and armero?
     

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