School computer security

Discussion in 'Education and Academia' started by nsa, Aug 31, 2005.

  1. nsa

    nsa Member+

    New England Revolution
    United States
    Feb 22, 1999
    Notboston, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    From another thread (that didn't need to be further hi-jacked).
    I hate these filters. Not because they block porn, which they don't, but because they frequently block access to useful sites.

    The filters only keep honest people honest, but there are always ways to get around them. Vary the search words, catch new sites that haven't been flagged, etc. Nobody needs to worry about someone in the IT department checking the logs because they don't have time.

    However, some kid legitimately researching the planet Venus finds sites blocked. :(

    My IT dimwits have blocked google/images because they discovered that you could type in the word "tits" and get pictures of [result]tits[/result]. But you can still get to those "dirty" pictures using the normal google search (or so I'm told :) ).

    What they didn't understand is that you can set "safe search" on Google that will block the more prurient pictures. Their problem is that the "safe search" mode is cookies based and you can remove the cookies. Did I really have to tell them about Windows 2000 privelege levels? They still haven't decided to turn on access to google/images again. :(
     
  2. soccernutter

    soccernutter Moderator
    Staff Member

    Tottenham Hotspur
    Aug 22, 2001
    Near the mountains.
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    To make this ironic, my uncle (now retired) had his students do a paper comparing smoking and anti-smoking ordances. Almost all of the anti-smoking websites were blocked!
     
  3. Dr. Wankler

    Dr. Wankler Member+

    May 2, 2001
    The Electric City
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Well, when I was in grad school, I had a couple of friends who worked for Information Services (or whatever we called our computer geeks). One of them reported having to deal with video-taped evidence from one of the all-night labs of a patron, ummm, having a good time with himself while looking at sites on the internet that, in all likelihood, are there for people who want to have a good time with themselves. It was pretty easy to figure out who it was just by figuring out who was logged in during the time the security footage depicted the aforementioned events. The warning letter was brief and too the point, telling the student to "refrain from abusing equipment in the public labs." And actually, now that I think about it, there was a homeless guy who used the computer terminal at a branch of the Chicago Public Library to set up a porno site: he was able to make enough money so that he ceased to be homeless. Not sure if that's the kind of economic empowerment a library can use in advertisements, but he was there at 9:00 a.m. and 8:30 p.m. to take care of business.

    Conversely, one of the libraries near where I live now in Western Pennsylvania had "netnanny." It made it impossible for kids to research breast cancer, for instance, and any number of other things. Things changed, however, a few years ago when a kid complained that he couldn't read about the Steelers' most recent superbowl appearance. Something about Superbowl XXX put the filtering mechanism in high gear.
     
  4. mellowjohnny

    mellowjohnny Member

    Nov 4, 2004
    USA
    At my school we had problems with "locals" coming in to use the computers and they would spend literally 10 hours straight at a terminal without getting up looking at porn. Our genious IT people never thought of having to login to get access. This however stopped when one our "neighbors" tried to sexually assault someone in the bathroom, now no-one not affiliated with the university can enter the library.
     
  5. metro24freak

    metro24freak New Member

    Jul 5, 2004
    philly
    the filters at my school are more to keep us from playing games on the computer instead of looking at porn even though porn sites are blocked too. But if you go to google and for kicks just type in penis in the image search all the pictures will still come up so in a sense it's easier for us to look at random pictures in a google image search than it is for us to play games on the internet. They're very big on using the computers for educational purposes only
     
  6. IntheNet

    IntheNet New Member

    Nov 5, 2002
    Northern Virginia
    Club:
    Blackburn Rovers FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Rightly so! Perhaps to fulfill their mandate to educate!
     
  7. metro24freak

    metro24freak New Member

    Jul 5, 2004
    philly
    yeah but we need a break from the learning
     
  8. quentinc

    quentinc New Member

    Jan 3, 2005
    Annapolis, MD
    Our computers give us reasons for blocking. Examples:

    Games, Adult Content (even though it's not really adult), and Non-Traditional and Occult Religions, or something to that effect.

    That last one is ridicolous. Basically, anything that isn't Christianity is blocked. I once searched for something on Islam and got this message:rolleyes:
     
  9. JohnW

    JohnW Member

    Apr 27, 2001
    St. Paul
    That's OK. I teach night classes at an area college to make a little extra money while I'm in graduate school. I wanted to show my students a video clip that is on ifilm.com and that site is blocked. (!)
     
  10. wcgcapone

    wcgcapone Member

    Feb 6, 2001
    Denver, CO, USA
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The religion reason is terrible, I'm assuming this is a public high school?
     
  11. quentinc

    quentinc New Member

    Jan 3, 2005
    Annapolis, MD
    Yep.
     
  12. wcgcapone

    wcgcapone Member

    Feb 6, 2001
    Denver, CO, USA
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I don't understand how that can be legal.
     
  13. metro24freak

    metro24freak New Member

    Jul 5, 2004
    philly
    i think i might understand

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  14. NHRef

    NHRef Member+

    Apr 7, 2004
    Southern NH
    That is the funniest comment on here, a "break from learning". Man life is learning and it never stops, if you mean a break from "school" that's what going home is for! I have a son in high school and am dumbfounded by the "down time" that some students have: 2-3 study periods a day when they are never used as "study" just socializing. Home is for the "break" in school is for learning.
     
  15. metro24freak

    metro24freak New Member

    Jul 5, 2004
    philly
    at my school it is currently break time and we're all up here, on the computer, socializing, and studying, it's how we work
     
  16. nsa

    nsa Member+

    New England Revolution
    United States
    Feb 22, 1999
    Notboston, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    FYP ;)
     
  17. mellowjohnny

    mellowjohnny Member

    Nov 4, 2004
    USA
    The first two years I was in high school we had regular, quiet study hall. Then the last two years they put two big tvs in the cafeteria with cable tv and told us to take study hall there. The administration was in effect encouraging us not to do our work as all the noise and distractions made any attempt at schoolwork during school study hall hopeless. Although they did substantially increase their profit from vending machines as kids who would only be able to get access at lunch now splurged during their study hall period. It was nice though during the NCAA tournament when we were late for every class trying to watch as much bball as possible. High school is more for socializing than learning in the eyes of many students, but when it seems the administration takes the same approach.........
     
  18. quentinc

    quentinc New Member

    Jan 3, 2005
    Annapolis, MD
    OK, "break time?" What in the ******** is that?
     
  19. metro24freak

    metro24freak New Member

    Jul 5, 2004
    philly
    I must've been really tired or talking to someone when i wrote that cause generally we call them frees. Blocks of time where we have no class, we can use them for eating, studying, meeting with teachers, working out in the training room anything we want.
     
  20. quentinc

    quentinc New Member

    Jan 3, 2005
    Annapolis, MD
    Wow, how long are these break times?
     
  21. metro24freak

    metro24freak New Member

    Jul 5, 2004
    philly
    depends. We have shorter periods from 11:40 to 1:15, those are all 20 minutes. Like today I have 20 minutes to eat lunch but most days i have 2 20 minute periods free to eat. The rest of the day when people generally aren't eating lunch they last a whole class period (40 minutes) and then there's an art and music period that starts at 9:50 and ends at 10:50 so if you aren't taking an art or music you have an hour free
     

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