#SavedTheCrew

Discussion in 'MLS: News & Analysis' started by TheRealBilbo, Oct 12, 2018.

  1. AndyMead

    AndyMead Homo Sapien

    Nov 2, 1999
    Seat 12A
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    That's exclusive to when the MetroStars are going to announce their new stadium deal.
     
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  2. Stan Collins

    Stan Collins Member+

    Feb 26, 1999
    Silver Spring, MD
    I think Garber's plan was to leverage Austin to get a new deal in Columbus (and any possible new ownership would have been a bonus), with actually moving the team if such a deal couldn't be found as a less desirable option. That would be a pretty standard move from the US sports playbook.

    And then he became flexible as events warranted. I think he could understand that all the angsting over relocation might 'work' to concentrate minds in Columbus, and yet at the same time underestimate Precourt's ability to not give a shit. And I think he's been around enough sports leagues to know that most of the heated rhetoric around the possibility of possibly moving a team tends to fade away if you can get the deal done. (In Columbus's case, it will have wound up working to the team's long-term advantage. The Crew as an institution, as distinct from their owner, rarely ever got such good PR as in the past couple years, and future passers-by of the new stadium will realize that it exists because people in Columbus cared.) Precourt is unusual--in past practice it has been difficult to burn so many bridges as to be truly unacceptable going forward, and an orthodox move-threatening from a more normal owner probably wouldn't have resulted in that.

    So from the league office's perspective, their read on the situation changed. Instead of coming out with just a new stadium in Columbus, or failing that just a team in Austin, they wind up with a team in both cities. This costs the league parting with one of the remaining expansion slots for a little less money than they really wanted to sell it for, but this is probably not a huge price to pay from their perspective, assuming the Austin deal actually works out. (If it doesn't, then they'll have continued strife with Precourt, with the result of likely them buying him out for more than that 150 million they got, but being able to sell another expansion team. Still not that bad.)
     
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  3. Timon19

    Timon19 Member+

    Jun 2, 2007
    Akron, OH
    That's on the level of Trutherism in its complexity and tendency to explain away the inconvenient. I mean, decent job collecting it in one place, but come on...
     
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  4. Bluecat82

    Bluecat82 Member+

    Feb 24, 1999
    Minneapolis, MN
    Club:
    Minnesota United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Was that exclusive to All Things Metro or did that follow Nick Sakiewicz to Philadelphia?
     
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  5. Stan Collins

    Stan Collins Member+

    Feb 26, 1999
    Silver Spring, MD
    I think it's the most prosaic (to the point of being boring) theory available to say 'they meant to do what every sports league means to do in a situation like this.'
     
  6. AndyMead

    AndyMead Homo Sapien

    Nov 2, 1999
    Seat 12A
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Being opportunistic or making lemonade from lemons isn't the same as having a plan in advance.
     
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  7. Stan Collins

    Stan Collins Member+

    Feb 26, 1999
    Silver Spring, MD
    Ummm. . . right, exactly. That's what I'm saying. How was that missed?
     
  8. AndyMead

    AndyMead Homo Sapien

    Nov 2, 1999
    Seat 12A
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    I was agreeing with you.
     
  9. Bill Archer

    Bill Archer BigSoccer Supporter

    Mar 19, 2002
    Washington, NC
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    So basically Precourt was lost in the rain in Juarez and it was Eastertime too
     
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  10. Stan Collins

    Stan Collins Member+

    Feb 26, 1999
    Silver Spring, MD
    No, clearly he was stuck inside of Mobile with the Memphis blues again.
     
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  11. ToMhIlL

    ToMhIlL Member+

    Feb 18, 1999
    Boxborough, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Maybe he was stuck in Lodi again? The one in New Jersey.
     
  12. carnifex2005

    carnifex2005 Member+

    Jul 1, 2008
    Club:
    Vancouver Whitecaps
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  13. POdinCowtown

    POdinCowtown Member+

    Jan 15, 2002
    Columbus
    Yes, Kasich signed the state's contribution yesterday. Franklin county commission approved their 45 mil on Tuesday. City council approved their 50 mil last week. So all the government financing has been completed.
     
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  14. TrueCrew

    TrueCrew Member+

    Dec 22, 2003
    Columbus, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Little birdies are saying today is the day for the official announcement.
     
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  15. NashSC

    NashSC Member+

    Nashville SC
    United States
    Jan 3, 2018
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  16. Dirt McGirt

    Dirt McGirt Member+

    Jun 20, 2005
    Phoenix, AZ
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    From 1.0 to 3.0.
     
  17. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    VB, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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  18. 007Spartan

    007Spartan Member+

    Mar 1, 2006
    Scottsdale, AZ
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  19. PJohnson

    PJohnson Member+

    DC United
    Dec 16, 2004
    South Dakota
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Very Happy for Crew Supporters today! And thankful that we can now all get back to hating your guts....
     
  20. GunnerJacket

    GunnerJacket Moderator
    Staff Member

    Sep 18, 2003
    Gainesville, GA
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    A Happy New Year indeed!
     
  21. NashSC

    NashSC Member+

    Nashville SC
    United States
    Jan 3, 2018
    Yes. The city/county/state dropped the case.
     
  22. POdinCowtown

    POdinCowtown Member+

    Jan 15, 2002
    Columbus
    For what it's worth, the change of ownership won't be until January so Precourt is still in charge for a few more days. Tickets for 2019 aren't on sale yet.
     
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  23. Ron36pc

    Ron36pc Member

    Sep 7, 2009
    Nacogdoches, TX
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I think a lot of credit is deserved by a lot of folks in getting to this point. Kudos first to the Crew fanbase for the Save the Crew effort and getting it so visibly around the league and in other public settings. But really, going from what might have been a vicious lawsuit with multiple rounds of appeals in state and federal court to quickly finding a new investor/operator group, which agreed to build a new stadium (in a "market" the league had been "lukewarm" about), and got agreement for government support for infrastructure from both local and state authorities (especially a state legislature and governor) - without a lot of controversy - is really remarkable! Think of the hurdles that had to be circumvented with getting Orlando City Stadium's funding arranged and MN Utd's stadium funding arranged - and the decades of the DC stadium saga.

    Really what has happened to save the Crew has been amazing!!

    With the Haslams' interest in having the Browns preseason training in Columbus, will there be efforts to build fanbase support for the Browns in Columbus and similarly build fanbase interest for the Crew in Cleveland??? Is their interest driven by some sort of synergy between the clubs and cities???
     
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  24. POdinCowtown

    POdinCowtown Member+

    Jan 15, 2002
    Columbus
    The Crew don't currently have a USL affiliate and Cleveland is working on joining USL so that seems like a good fit.

    Ohio's big 3 cities are doing well economically while smaller cities like Dayton, Toledo, Youngstown, and Canton are being left behind. There's been a lot of internal migration in Ohio from the Northeast parts toward Columbus. So Cleveland teams are more popular in Columbus now than they were 20 years ago.
     
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  25. Ron36pc

    Ron36pc Member

    Sep 7, 2009
    Nacogdoches, TX
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I could see how it would make sense for the Haslems/Browns to build goodwill and support in Columbus - Cleveland has a small geographic opportunity for a fanbase, ringed in by NFL teams in Detroit, Indy, Cincy, Pittsburgh, and Buffalo. Holding training camp & making fans in Columbus makes sense. Hopefully they'll make great investor/operators for the Crew fans and find ways to add to the fanbase in Cleveland and NE Ohio.
     

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