Saudi Arabia Football Experts

Discussion in 'Saudi Arabia' started by soccersubjectively, Jun 6, 2012.

  1. soccersubjectively

    soccersubjectively BigSoccer Supporter

    Jan 17, 2012
    Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Hey sorry I don't belong in these parts but I'm looking for 1-3 experts on Saudi Arabia's current football team AND that are active on BigSoccer. They need to be knowledgeable of the team, fair, and just. I'm doing a little bit of a project at the moment and would appreciate any help I could get. Thanks in advance!
     
  2. serro

    serro Member

    Dec 6, 2009
    Riyadh
    Club:
    Al Hilal Riyadh
    Nat'l Team:
    Saudi Arabia
    what do you mean you don't belong to these parts ?

    you certainly belong here and are welcome .

    I consider myself very knowledgeable about football in Saudi Arabia

    currently the best players in Saudi Arabia are as follows :

    GK ; Hassan Alotaibi , Waleed Abdulla , Abdulla Alsodairy

    Defense : Naif Algady , Osama Howsawi , Majid Almarshidy , Redha Tuker , Kamel Almusa , Mohmmad Mosa'd , Hassan Moath ,Abdulla Shuhil .

    Midfielders : Abdulziz Aldosary , Salem Aldosary , Nawaf Alabed , Yasser Alfahmy ,Abdulraheem Aljezawee , Saud Kariri , Motaz Almusa , Khalid Aziz , Tyseer Aljasem , Ahmed Autef .

    best Strikers : Naif Hazzazi , Yasser Alqahtani , Nasser Alshamrani.
     
  3. soccersubjectively

    soccersubjectively BigSoccer Supporter

    Jan 17, 2012
    Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Thanks! That's a solid start. Let me tell you what exactly I'm looking for so maybe you can tweak it. I'm trying to put together some world rankings. The idea is to rate every team's player's 1-100 with an expert for every team to give a fair and just review of the their respective team. Obviously you (and anyone else who shows up) would just cover Saudi Arabia.

    Here's how I would compile the ratings. If the World Cup was in one month and every team had a month to prepare it's squad to play, who would be chosen, what would their ratings be, and how many minutes would they play on average? (This is who you would expect to see, not who you'd want to see.) For example, this is what USA's squad would look like, in my opinion:

    81 - Howard (GK) 90 mins
    73 - Cherundolo (RB) 70 mins
    71.5 - Bocanegra (CB) 85 mins
    69.5 - Goodson (CB) 70 mins
    72.5 - Johnson (LB) 80 mins
    74.5 - Bradley (CDM) 90 mins
    76.5 - Jones (CDM) 80 mins
    70 - Torres (CM) 60 mins
    82 - Dempsey (LW) 90 mins
    80.5 - Donovan (RW) 90 mins
    74 - Altidore (ST) 75 mins

    71.5 - Chandler (RB) 15 mins
    70.5 - Lichaj (RB) 5 mins
    69 - Parkhurst (CB/RB) 5 mins
    68 - Onyewu (CB) 13 mins
    69 - Cameron (CB) 7 mins
    69.5 - Castillo (LB) 10 mins
    69.5 - Edu (CM) 15 mins
    70.5 - Beckerman (CM) 10 mins
    68 - Boyd (ST) 3 mins
    70 - Gomez (ST) 25 mins
    68 - Wondolowski (ST) 2 mins

    I gave Howard a 81 rating and expect him to play 90 minutes, every minute, while Goodson is expected to play only 70 minutes as the CB spot is still pretty open for the US.

    I based all the ratings off FIFA 12, the game, but there is only one Saudi Arabian player on the entire game, which I noticed wasn't in your aforementioned players. = /

    Here's what I have so far:

    50 - No Clue (GK) 90 mins
    60 - Fareed Alhafith (D) 90 mins
    50 - No Clue (D) 90 mins
    50 - No Clue (D) 90 mins
    50 - No Clue (D) 90 mins
    50 - No Clue (M) 90 mins
    50 - No Clue (M) 90 mins
    50 - No Clue (M) 90 mins
    50 - No Clue (M) 90 mins
    50 - No Clue (F) 90 mins
    50 - No Clue (F) 90 mins

    So a lot needs to change there. A starting roster with respective ratings. Any potential subs? What would their ratings be and expected average minutes?

    You have to factor in long term injuries but current fitness issues you could likely ignore. For example, Stuart Holden will likely make the actual World Cup squad but for now I have to keep him off as he is recovering from a massive knee injury.

    This is a big work in progress but here is the "current" overall rankings.

    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?key=0AttujdNBdATWdHI3WVRSM2xDaWcycnZwbnFKTFRoS0E&output=html

    I realize this is a big overtaking and should be taken with a grain of salt AND that there's no "correct" answer but I thought it'd still be interesting to compile. If you have any questions let me know!
     
  4. serro

    serro Member

    Dec 6, 2009
    Riyadh
    Club:
    Al Hilal Riyadh
    Nat'l Team:
    Saudi Arabia
    oh sorry, i forgot to put to mention some wonderful players ( mohmmad alshalhoup , ahmed alfraidy,Saud Kariri )

    alright as I understand you. you need me to rate the best available 22 players for a world cup match .
    but what is the criteria ? what is the rating based on ? we got pretty skilled players but they are not physically fit , and we got physically fit players but they have nothing in common with football except the career, and we got physically fit and very skilled but they got attitude problems. currently, football in Saudi Arabia is a main reason for hair loss :/. I'll try to rank them based on the skill.

    65- Waleed Abdulla (90 mins)(GK)
    76 - Osama Howsawi (90 mins)(CB) the most consistent player in Saudi Arabia
    70 - Naif Alqady (65 mins)(CB) very good defender ,but he is physically unfit ,
    70- Abdulla Shuheel (70 mins)(RB) really fast and really skilled
    62- Hassan Moath(60 mins)(LB) really skilled but very angry
    68- Saud Kariri(90 mins)(DM) a very good defensive midfielder , very old as well
    69- Ahmed Alfriady(70 mins)(CM) very skilled , he does not care much for team play,very slow
    66- Tyseer Aljasem(70 mins)(CM) very consistent
    80- Salem Aldosary(75 mins)(RM) very young , very skilled .
    89- Mohammad Alshalhoup(60 mins)(LM) this guy is currently the best but he is old , and very slim
    71- Nasser Alshamrani(90 mins)(ST) the best available striker and very professional

    60-Redha Tuker (5 mins)(CB) really large body with a small brain
    60-Majid Almarshady(5 mins)(CB) this guy had highs and lows
    69-Kamel Almusa(30 mins)(CB/LB) this guy is really good but he is very slow.
    66-Mohammad Mosa'd(30 mins)(RB/LB) good player but very slow
    64-Khalid Aziz(5 mins)(DM) very skilled , bad temper
    80-Abdulaziz Aldosary(5 mins)(LM) very skilled , he had an injury lately , very slim
    63-Nawaf Alabed(20 mins)(LM/RM) very skilled , bad temper
    65-Yasser Alfahmy(10 mins)(CM) very young , very good .
    62-Ahmed Autef(5 mins)(CM) okay for a backup plan.
    66 - Yasser Alqhtani (10 mins )(ST) very skilled , he has been going downhill since 2007 .
    69 - Naif Hazzazi (20 mins) (ST) good, young .

    i rated in comparison with the best Saudi players
     
  5. soccersubjectively

    soccersubjectively BigSoccer Supporter

    Jan 17, 2012
    Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Awesome. I loved the player reviews. Especially Tuker's.

    I had to shift some of the player ratings to get them more in line with FIFA 12's but all-in-all this was great. (Here are all of FIFA 12's ratings btw: http://sofifa.com/en/player/active)

    65 - W. Abdullah (GK) 90 mins
    76 - A. Shuheel (RB) 70 mins
    70 - O. Howsawi (CB) 90 mins
    70 - N. Alqady (CB) 65 mins
    62 - H. Moath (LB) 60 mins
    68 - S. Kariri (CDM) 90 mins
    69 - S. Aldossari (RM) 75 mins
    66 - A. Alfriady (CM) 70 mins
    72 - T. Aljasem (CM) 80 mins
    77 - M. Al-Shalhoub (LM) 60 mins
    71 - N. Alshamrani (ST) 90 mins

    60 - R. Tuker (CB) 5 mins
    66 - M. Almarshady (CB) 10 mins
    69 - K. Almusa (CB/LB) 30 mins
    66 - M. Mosa'd (RB/LB) 30 mins
    64 - K. Aziz (CDM) 5 mins
    75 - A. Aldosary (LM) 5 mins
    63 - N. Alabed (LM/RM) 20 mins
    65 - Y. Alfahmy (CM) 10 mins
    62 - A. Autef (CM) 5 mins
    66 - Y. Alqhtani (ST) 10 mins
    69 - N. Hazzazi (ST) 20 mins

    This puts them 5th overall in the AFC: https://docs.google.com/a/harding.e...jdNBdATWdHI3WVRSM2xDaWcycnZwbnFKTFRoS0E&gid=4

    Any more changes or suggestions? I'm still open to tweaking it.
     
  6. serro

    serro Member

    Dec 6, 2009
    Riyadh
    Club:
    Al Hilal Riyadh
    Nat'l Team:
    Saudi Arabia
    no thats about it. but you need to take more opinions !
     
  7. soccersubjectively

    soccersubjectively BigSoccer Supporter

    Jan 17, 2012
    Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Hey if you could find me some more I'd be more than happy to!
     
  8. serro

    serro Member

    Dec 6, 2009
    Riyadh
    Club:
    Al Hilal Riyadh
    Nat'l Team:
    Saudi Arabia
    there are three good Saudi posters who are active and understand football pretty darn well , hijazzy , ittihadi , burning_phoenix
    but i don't think they will be watching this forum off-season, and while Europe nations cup 2012 is on action .
     
  9. allan123

    allan123 Red Card

    Aug 4, 2005
    IRAN
    75. RAHMATI(GK) 90Min
    67.POULADI(LB)90 MIN
    72.HOSSEINI(CB)90 MIN
    74. AGHILY(CB) 90 MIN
    68.HEYDARI(RB) 65 MIN
    70. NEKOUNAM(CDM) 90 MIN
    77.ANDRABIK(CDM) 90 MIN
    71KARIM(RM)I 75 MIN
    72 JABBARI(CM) 79 MIN
    77.KAHLATBBARI(LM) 75 MIN
    75 ANSARIFARD(ST) 80 MIN
     
  10. serro

    serro Member

    Dec 6, 2009
    Riyadh
    Club:
    Al Hilal Riyadh
    Nat'l Team:
    Saudi Arabia
    allan123:
    do you know what is the deference between a noob and a newbie ?

    a newbie is a new user who shows an authentic desire to learn, newbies are always welcome, newbies bump new blood to the chat rooms, social groups ,forums....etc. they are the best , in time they become experts

    a noob on the other hand is , some one who doesn't understand , don't know , don't want to learn ,and acts like he understand everything. noobs always say STFU . these guys are not welcome. they annoy the members.
    sadly in recent years noobs are infesting the Internet rapidly, we need a solution.
    noobs don't change no matter how much time they use the technolog.
     
  11. allan123

    allan123 Red Card

    Aug 4, 2005
    LOOK.
     
  12. soccersubjectively

    soccersubjectively BigSoccer Supporter

    Jan 17, 2012
    Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Thank you.
     

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