San Jose Earthquakes - Cruz Azul exhibition (Saturday, 10/13) pre/in/postgame thread [R]

• A snitch in time saves 9 p-chants
• In a kingdom of snitches, no snitch stands out.

 

Well, we already know steps 1-2 don’t work at all. But the rest of the steps seem like they could work, except probably all the fans would get really upset and start booing — booing not just the announcer, and referee, but also the booing the p-chanters.

Plus it might be better if the announcer said that the game was stopped not by the referee, but by the match official. Or by the team itself.

 

There were also p-chants at the Stanford game and unfortunately, I was sitting in front of a group of young people (either college age or in early 20's) who did p-chants in the first half.

I finally got fed up and told them to stop, and they told me they were doing it for the "atmosphere". When I asked why they had to use a homophobic language (I probably used some salty language that I shouldn't have in front of my 6 year old), they came back with "why is it homophobic?". After a while I realized they really didn't know what the p-word meant. There are a lot of articles that go into detail of the origin/meaning of the word and I think a lot of people use the chant without realizing what it really means.

What may help is to educate why the chant is insensitive and shouldn't be used. May be I'm overly optimistic, I think a lot of folks will stop doing this after they read an article like this one https://fusion.tv/story/71932/********-mexico-soccer-chant/

After halftime, the young people behind us stopped the p-chant...

 

Quakes should require sensitivity classes for all fans who purchase tickets.

 

You punish the visiting team because it is the only possible way to stop their fans from doing the chant. (And even such punishment might not work). However, my point is that if you are not going to do anything to enforce the rule, then there is no reason to keep making the current announcement. The current announcement doesn't work, and just makes the Quakes look silly and impotent.
It is my impression that the international anti-racism campaign in soccer has involved punishing teams who are deemed to allow it to happen (I could be wrong about that), and that hasn't totally stopped that activity.
Venceremos, if you are correct that it is intractable Mexican futbol culture and that it will be in San Jose next season, and if this is a FIFA or US Soccer mandate to stop that behavior, then the Quakes need to decide what they are going to do about it. Ignore it, make the announcement and then ignore it, or make the announcement and enforce it. If they hope to enforce it, then I think they need Almeyda (and any Mexican players they may bring in) to publicly address the issue at games.

 

Earthshaker has the best proposal. Mock it with a cartoon Pluto on the big screen.

 

Perhaps a cartoon showing several rows of fans, one of which is a row of silly-looking cartoon chanting Plutos.

However, as an intellectual-property attorney, you know better than most that Disney would be all over the Quakes with a lawsuit immediately for the use of their image!


I don't suppose a cartoon "pou - tine" image would work with the Mexican fans, but it might deter a few Canadians...

 

Reasons: Stupidity and Conservatism.

One good thing about having a Euro GM and a Latin Head Coach is that they think the youngsters should be ready to go at seventeen or eighteen years of age, whereas USian GM's and HC's tend to think that twenty-two or twenty-three is still too young to be a starter. It's a disease born of our other major sports where the kids go to college first, and then the pros. Which is not the regular model for fútbol world wide.

Go Quakes!!

- Mark

 

Absolutely not.

You may recall that on goal kicks, fans used to chant You S*** A$$&&&&. We stopped that. League wide.

We can stop the P---- chant, and we damned well should.

Go Quakes!!

- Mark

 

MLS shut down the mostly nerdy, soft US supporter groups. I remember a lot of supporters were actually against the YSA chant, so the task of getting rid of it was an easy one. They will not shut down the much more hardcore, passionate Mexican fans. The chant is deeply rooted in the Mexican soccer culture, all fans, even women and children love it.

Mighty FIFA tried to get them to stop and they couldn't. If you watch El Tri playing or games involving Liga MX teams you will notice it's louder than ever. It was also the loudest chant at Avaya on Saturday. I am not a fan of it, but I would suggest you come to terms with it and accept it during Quakes games starting next year.

 

This encapsulates my view. Don't like the p*to chant but find censorship more offensive.

 

That "you can't stop it, so you might as well accept it" argument has been used to prop up every dictatorship in history...

 

Or maybe not. Perhaps Disney would be just fine with seeing a headline, "How Disney's Pluto helped drown out homophobic soccer chant".

 

Fixed your post.

 

we should just throw this up on the jumbotron and imagine we're all simultaneously contemplating the outer reaches of our solar system.

 

Maybe not the "outer reaches."

https://www.nytimes.com/2016/01/21/science/space/ninth-planet-solar-system-beyond-pluto.html

They should play this video on the scoreboard to irk the homophobes, though.

 

What if the scoreboard person makes a mistake and shows Uranus? Then we will end up with the same problem

 

It's so great that you went out of your way and comfort zone to educate those students! Good job!