Post-match: San Jose Earthquakes - Chicago Fire (Saturday, 5/18) postgame thread [R]

Discussion in 'San Jose Earthquakes' started by Goodsport, May 18, 2019.

  1. mjlee22

    mjlee22 Quake & Landon fan

    Nov 24, 2003
    near Palo Alto, CA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  2. don gagliardi

    don gagliardi Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    Feb 28, 2004
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    I voted Wondo, of course.

    He's not going to win on style points for 146, and the millennial types have no appreciation for history, and non-Quakes fans dislike him, so of course he won't win goal of the week.
     
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  3. TyffaneeSue

    TyffaneeSue moderator
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    Nov 15, 2003
    Upstairs
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    San Jose Earthquakes
    I have not been able to get GOTW to work on any browser this year, including mobile.
     
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  4. jeff_adams

    jeff_adams Member+

    Dec 16, 1999
    Monterey, Ca
    Just want to add I thought the officials did a great job on this game. I was especially impressed that the center ref correctly allowed Wondo to score the third goal (#147) by applying the advantage rule. I feel like many refs would have blown the whistle on the Espinoza foul and stopped play.
     
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  5. TyffaneeSue

    TyffaneeSue moderator
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    Nov 15, 2003
    Upstairs
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    San Jose Earthquakes
    I'm glad you mentioned that because I'd been forgetting to say -- kind of got lost in everything else -- that this was one of the best-refereed matches I've seen at Avaya in a while (even before Wondo started scoring). He had good control of the game, called fouls appropriately, and the players respected him.
     
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  6. jeff_adams

    jeff_adams Member+

    Dec 16, 1999
    Monterey, Ca
    I would love to have that crew again. Not because I felt that the Quakes got the benefit of every call, it just seemed like the game flowed really well and as you mentioned, they were nearly flawless in game management. One of my pet peeves is the improper usage of “play on” advantage. This crew did it to perfection all game long for both teams and that made for a much more enjoyable viewing experience. We complain constantly about poor officiating so it’s only right we compliment the ones that get it right.
     
  7. falvo

    falvo Member+

    Mar 27, 2005
    San Jose & Florence
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    San Jose Earthquakes
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    Italy
    #107 falvo, May 20, 2019
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    Of course Wondo will be voted player and goals of the week and month! No one scores that many times in 4 games much less in one,

    How can he not be player of the month?
     
  8. ColinMcCarthy

    ColinMcCarthy Member+

    Apr 2, 2010
    San Jose, CA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Obviously enjoyed Wondo performance. But I also enjoyed that the Quakes controlled the game. I never felt like Chicago was going to score and that the Quakes were. Pleasantly surprised. They are a good team.
     
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  9. Venceremos

    Venceremos Member

    Jul 17, 2013
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    San Jose Earthquakes
    All these contests are absolutely meaningless. Just a way for the MLS website and social media to get clicks and make people feel like their opinion is important
     
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  10. bsman

    bsman Member+

    May 30, 2001
    MadCity
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    I really enjoyed being able to witness the history first-hand, but am not terribly excited about beating Chicago (13 points) handily. Let's face it - we've not beaten a team with a winning record this season, and have tied the only one we've faced (Dallas) since the disastrous 0-0-4 start.

    After next week's game (vs. a mid-table TFC) things start to get interesting, with a game against DC (currently sharing the top spot in the east) and the next six games (Dallas, Houston, Gals, MN, RSL, Gals part deux) all against teams above us in the Western Conference standings. Fortunately, four of those are home games, but I think the next seven games will most definitely determine whether this season rekindles the magic and sees us into the playoffs, or whether we end up stumbling and dropping out of contention. Right now, I'd pretty much give 50/50 odds either way, because our team does seem to have a rather Jeckyll/Hyde quality this season. However, as (San) Jose Strummer said: "The Future is Unwritten."
     
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  11. tenfourteen

    tenfourteen Member

    Sep 30, 2014
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    We also drew to the sounders in Seattle
     
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  12. bsman

    bsman Member+

    May 30, 2001
    MadCity
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    San Jose Earthquakes
    BTW - it was nice to see @don gagliardi and @tenfourteen out there Saturday. I don't know where @TyffaneeSue is sitting these days, but I didn't spot her. Of course, rain was in my eyes a lot! If any of the rest of you folks happen to see me wandering about (these days, I'm normally managing ball kids - look for the fat guy with a big smile on his face...) I would really love to meet you. I generally end up watching the game from behind the goal on the LOBINA side - battling the deafening noise from the subwoofers miced up to the LODINA... I'm really gonna have to start bringing earplugs.

    During the rain, the subwoofers somehow got out of phase and started emitting a loud, incredibly annoying low-pitched hum. I was able to get it fixed by messing around with the plugs, and ended up getting perhaps the biggest hand I've ever gotten on the field at Avaya. Much better than having hot dogs and shoes thrown at me while escorting the refs off the field through the tunnel at Spartan! :D
     
  13. bsman

    bsman Member+

    May 30, 2001
    MadCity
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    You're right! My bad.
     
  14. tvromero

    tvromero Member

    Jun 2, 2018
    Thanks for fixing it as it happened a few times.
     
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  15. don gagliardi

    don gagliardi Member+

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    Feb 28, 2004
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  16. TyffaneeSue

    TyffaneeSue moderator
    Staff Member

    Nov 15, 2003
    Upstairs
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    Thank you, thank you! The noise was horrible.
    Don and I were holding down #26, one of the few club sections with fans sitting in it. Those blurry people are approximately us.
    WondosHatTrick.png
     
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  17. FUAEG

    FUAEG Member+

    Oct 18, 2005
    San Jose
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Thanks for fixing that. I was the one shouting "Unplug it!".
    The subwoofers were picking up the faultlines drums, not just the big drum. The faultline drummer's beat had a much quicker cadence.

    Since you're semi-official, do you know if any of the opposing teams have complained? It must be tough for the opposing keeper to play 20 ft in front of those things.
     
  18. Beerking

    Beerking Member+

    Nov 14, 2000
    Humboldt County
    His last goal was a perfect example of his poaching skill. Watch as he cleverly backs away from the opposing players widening the gap between himself and them. He doesn't wait for space to open, he makes it himself. :thumbsup::thumbsup:
     
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  19. Beerking

    Beerking Member+

    Nov 14, 2000
    Humboldt County
    A huge article and photo of Wondo on the front page of our local sports section and we're 220 miles away...:D


    Of course, he did play his college ball here. :)
     
  20. don gagliardi

    don gagliardi Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    Feb 28, 2004
    san jose
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Wondo and Yueill in this week's Best 11.

    MLS Team of the Week 5 20 19.jpg
     
  21. don gagliardi

    don gagliardi Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    Feb 28, 2004
    san jose
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Wondo is player of the week.

    Wondo player of the week May 20 2019.jpg
     
  22. chris thebassplayer

    Feb 18, 2014
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    What a great game and epic historic day...... the level of perseverance and hard work he's put in to get to this point....probably the most fun I've ever had wrapped in a garbage bag...so many great scenes... the pure joy expressed by his teammates...amazing...brought a tear to my eye...hope he scores 10 more. With the team playing much better ball, he just might do it. I think we're setting up for a magical run
     
  23. jeff_adams

    jeff_adams Member+

    Dec 16, 1999
    Monterey, Ca
    From your lips to God’s ears. If you want to talk tears in my eyes, watching Wondo lift the MLS Cup would do the trick.
     
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  24. vjle

    vjle Member

    Sep 17, 2001
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Gotta disagree on this one. He called fouls on Flo and Espinoza several times when they got to where the ball was going first and held position as the Chicago player backed into them, and then went down. That's basic stuff. Then there was the one in which Espinoza had the ball and was stripped by two Chicago players. One Chicago player took off with the ball and the other blocked Espinoza from pursuing, American football style. Christian tried to get around him, and the Chicago player leaned so hard into him that he (Chicago player) eventually fell down, mostly of his own accord. Espinoza got a yellow--made no sense. That happened right in front of me at Avaya and I also rewatched several times on TV. Dumb call.

    An another play, Lima had his standing leg taken out on a very late tackle as Lima was passing back to Vega. Clearly dangerous--no call. That play led to the Chicago free kick that Vega saved in the top corner.

    Several times the ref was so involved in talking to players after plays that he turned his back on the ball and missed a variety of things. Again, basic stuff.
     
  25. TyffaneeSue

    TyffaneeSue moderator
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    Nov 15, 2003
    Upstairs
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Was the officiating perfect? Is it ever? Do experienced referees agree on every call? Even the best referees are going to make objectively wrong calls every game because of the pace and the need to balance overall game dynamics.

    The goal is to keep the game moving yet control the temperature. This wasn't like that recent game where we saw something like six cautions in the first 30 minutes, or other games with frequent shoving matches. Too often, the referee inserts himself into the game; you should barely notice the CR. As I said, a key component is that the referee had the respect of the players -- did you see people ganging up on him after each call to complain? No, because details aside, in the overall scheme of things he called a fair and appropriate game, and they knew that he knew what he was doing.
     

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