Salvadorans Abroad: 2015 Edition

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  1. La Trucha

    La Trucha Moderator
    Staff Member

    Nov 16, 2009
    42 Wallaby Way, Sydney
    Club:
    Melbourne Victory
    Nat'l Team:
    Australia
    #1 La Trucha, Jan 1, 2015
    Last edited: Dec 31, 2015
    2014 Edition

    CONCACAF
    Guatemala
    Jaime Alas - CD Municipal
    Rafael Burgos - Universidad SC
    Mexico - Ascensco MX
    Josue Flores - Cimarrones de Sonora
    USA - MLS
    Darwin Ceren - Orlando City
    USA - NASL
    Efrain Burgos, Jr. - Atlanta Silverbacks
    Dustin Corea - FC Edmonton
    Andres Flores - New York Cosmos
    Tomas Granitto - FC Edmonton
    USA - USL
    Marvin Baumgartner - Real Monarchs SLC
    Maikon Orellana - Real Monarchs SLC

    UEFA

    Azerbaijan
    Nelson Bonilla - Zira FK
    Iceland
    Pablo Punyed - IBV

    2015 TRANSFERS
    January

    Gabriel Nunez:
    Queretaro U-20 (MEX) > Alianza FC (SLV)
    Jose Pena:
    Leon U-20 (MEX) > CD FAS (SLV)
    Christopher Ramirez:
    Atletico Marte (SLV) > Orange County Blues FC (USA)
    Jairo Henriquez:
    Tlaxcala FC (MEX) > CD FAS (SLV)
    Jaime Alas:
    CD FAS (SLV) > CD Municipal (GUA)
    February
    Efrain Burgos. Jr.:
    Unattached > Jaguares de Cordoba (COL)
    Marvin Baumgartner:
    FC Wettswil-Bonstetten (SUI) > Real Monarchs SLC (USA)
    March
    Rafael Burgos:
    Unattached > Fredrikstad FK (NOR)
    Efrain Burgos. Jr.:
    Jaguares de Cordoba (COL) > Unattached
    April
    Maikon Orellana:
    Unattached > Real Monarchs SLC (USA)
    Efrain Burgos. Jr.:
    Unattached > Orange County Blues FC (USA)
    Richard Menjivar:
    San Antonio Scorpions (USA) > Tampa Bay Rowdies (USA)
    May
    Marvin Iraheta:
    Alianza FC (SLV) > New York Cosmos U-23 (USA)
    Kevin Santamaria:
    CD Municipal (GUA) > Unattached
    June
    Felix Sanchez:
    Atletico Marte (SLV) > Oulun Palloseura (FIN)
    Alexander Larin:
    CS Herediano (CRC) > FC Juarez (MEX)
    Orlando Pineda:
    Alebrijes (MEX) > Cimarrones de Sonora (MEX)
    Miguel Palafox:
    Club León U-20 (MEX) > Santa Tecla (SLV)
    July
    Efrain Burgos. Jr.:
    Orange County Blues FC (USA) > Atlanta Silverbacks (USA)
    Rafael Burgos:
    Fredrikstad FK (NOR) > CD FAS (SLV)
    Dustin Corea:
    CD FAS (SLV) > FC Edmonton (CAN)
    August
    Arturo Alvarez
    Videoton FC (HUN) > Unattached
    Christian Rodriguez
    DC United U-20 (USA) > CD FAS (SLV)
    Nelson Bonilla
    FC Viitorul Constanța (ROM) > Zira FK (AZE)
    November
    Pablo Punyed
    Stjarnan (ISL) > IBV (ISL)
    December
    Christopher Ramirez
    Orange County Blues (USA) > Atletico Marte (SLV)
    Josue Flores
    Isidro Metapan (SLV) > Cimarrones de Sonora (MEX)
    Alexander Larin
    FC Juarez (MEX) > Unattached
    Richard Menjivar
    Tampa Bay Rowdies (USA) > Unattached
    Rafael Burgos
    FAS (SLV) > Universidad SC (GUA)
     
  2. Rayado21

    Rayado21 Member

    Jan 3, 2015
    Club:
    --other--
    Hi everybody, long time following, first time posting. Happy new year to all.

    Now to the matter at hand. I think we as fans need to set the standards higher as to who we follow in this thread. Last year a lot of players were talked about in in here. I know that we are eager to be represented in the international scene, we are really eager to have our players do well abroad. However I think and feel that we can not keep on following certain players here. They play in the U.S. second/third division ( NASL/USL )? they do not deserve to be followed here, they play in the third division of some European country?, no need to follow them here. Mexican Third Division, no thank you. Yes I know this might be harsh, but I think/feel that we are setting a very low standard as to who we follow and as such and by extension the quality of players drops. Yes making it to a pro team is really hard work and requires skills that most of us do not posses, however going from the Hungarian first division to the second division in the US is not progress (it would be if they were going the other way), yet we keep on following this players, we do not put any expectations on them and that is not right.

    It's getting frustrating to have so many names bandied about, just because somebody is a walk on at some soccer training camp for a team in some third or fourth division somewhere and still not make it.

    I think and feel that for this year in this thread we should only follow players who are playing top soccer, that is in any first division, such as Arturo Alvarez, Nelson Bonilla, Kevin Santamaria, Alexander Larin, Pablo Punyed . They deserve it. No more Burgos, Flores, Baumgartner, Henriquez and others languishing in pretty bad lower divisions. The only way we should be following someone in a lower division I think is if they are in one of the top playing countries in the world, England, Spain, Italy, Germany, Mexico, etc., and they potentially could be promoted to a first division, or however it may be called I do not think we deserve to follow players in any other lower leagues, we do not deserve it as fans, and those players do not deserve our attention.

    Thanks and have a good day and a great year.
     
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  3. slaminsams

    slaminsams Member+

    Mar 22, 2010
    Good to see you started posting. I am no fan of players going to the NASL or USL however I still like to know how players on the national team are doing. In my opinion this thread should go back to how it has been in previous years and just follow senior national team players that have been capped not anyone else
     
  4. Blue_nation724

    Blue_nation724 Member+

    Mar 16, 2013
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    El Salvador
    AMÉRICAS
    USA-MLS
    Darwin Ceren- Orlando City FC
    USA-NASL
    Junior Burgos- Atlanta Silverbacks
    Richard Menjivar- San Antonio Scorpions
    Andres Flores- NY Cosmos
    Costa Rica- 1st división
    Alexander Larin- CS Herediano
    Guatemala - 1st división
    Kevin Santamaria - CD Municipal

    EUROPE
    Hungary

    Arturo Alvarez - Videoton FC
    Austria
    Rafael Burgos- SV Reid
    Iceland
    Pablo Punyed- Stjarnan
    Romania
    Nelson Bonilla- FC Viitorul Constanta

    This next list is a list of players who have NOT been capped into the senior NT but have the ability to do so if they wish and if our NT coaches see fit.

    Americas
    Mexico

    Jairo Henriquez- Tlaxcala FC
    Denis Pineda -Tigres u20
    Diego Coca- Tigres u20
    Miguel Palafox- León u20
    Gabriel Nunez- Queretaro u20
    USA- NASL
    Tomas Granitto- FC Edmonton
     
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  5. La Trucha

    La Trucha Moderator
    Staff Member

    Nov 16, 2009
    42 Wallaby Way, Sydney
    Club:
    Melbourne Victory
    Nat'l Team:
    Australia
    @Rayado21 welcome to the forum!! Hope to see you around often!!

    I agree with this too. I mean, last year, Punyed and Junior Burgos eventually joined Selecta and I enjoyed following Punyed's Europa League journey, but I've never been that interested in Junior Burgos. And as a matter fact, I don't care for Orlando Pineda either; he's not even playing in Liga MX and frankly I don't know if he's any better than the players we have now.

    I am not against following other players with Salvadoran backgrounds (I actively follow Salvadoran-American youth players who are on USA's radar), whether they want to join us or not, but IMO they don't need to be mentioned in this thread; they can go into the 'Miscellaneous ES Discussions' thread instead.

    I think you're gonna have to add Baumgartner to the second list. Even though he plays at such a low division, Tuco has given him as much attention as Jairo, Pineda and Coca*. In fact, as you recall, he got called up to the ES U-21's and not Nunez, Granitto or Palafox.

    *Coca doesn't play for Leon, I think you meant Jose Peña.

    PS. thanks for making the list!
     
  6. Grimmjow316

    Grimmjow316 Member+

    Jun 20, 2012
    Houston, TX
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    El Salvador
    #6 Grimmjow316, Jan 3, 2015
    Last edited: Jan 3, 2015
    @blue_nation That list keeps getting smaller and smaller :/. From that list I would remove Gabriel and Palafox who haven't been called up to neither NT side as of right now. Also Coca is with Aguila and Peña is with Tigres.

    @La_Trucha Baum I wouldn't add him to the list since we barely even get updates on him in terms of playing time. I guess we can have him listed up this time but don't expect much news from him.

    @Elrayado21 Hello nice to see you posting here hope you keep coming by. Currently we have made improvements since then in regards to who we add to the list as compared to say two years ago. But pretty much @slaminsams covered it already we are following the NASL guys since they are getting called up if they weren't we would have taken them out of the list. As it stands we need to monitor them due to these circumstances.

    @slaminsams Well the youths abroad thread was kind of dead so it felt easier moving there info here plus right now it's only like 5 players (well technically 4 since Baum is damn near impossible to get news on.)
     
  7. Grimmjow316

    Grimmjow316 Member+

    Jun 20, 2012
    Houston, TX
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    El Salvador
    FYP
     
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  8. Blue_nation724

    Blue_nation724 Member+

    Mar 16, 2013
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    El Salvador
    Thanks, I messed up Coca and Peña, my mistake
     
  9. Grimmjow316

    Grimmjow316 Member+

    Jun 20, 2012
    Houston, TX
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    El Salvador
    @Rayado21 sorry messed up your username lulz I answered your post.

    Post #5
     
  10. La Trucha

    La Trucha Moderator
    Staff Member

    Nov 16, 2009
    42 Wallaby Way, Sydney
    Club:
    Melbourne Victory
    Nat'l Team:
    Australia
    Tbh, I think this thread should remain for senior Salvadorans only; so just AA, Punyed, Rafa and Bonilla. I'd accept Jairo, Baumgartner and Granitto simply because they are seniors at their clubs; we don't have to actively follow Baumgartner but at least have him listed because he fits in the category.

    The juniors like Nunez, Pineda and Pena, as well as Rene, should go back into the Juniors thread. That thread also welcomes other players of Salvadoran descent to be listed, like Christian Rodriguez and Romilio Hernandez, since they wish to represent El Salvador. It's not like we always followed them every week.

    As for other players who play for amateur clubs like Esnal, Ruben, Gian, Mauro, Ernesto, Suglo and the Salvadoran-Italians; they can go into the Miscellaneous ES Discussions thread.
     
  11. Rayado21

    Rayado21 Member

    Jan 3, 2015
    Club:
    --other--
    Thanks for the welcome. Hope for 2015 to be a great year for our boys abroad.
     
  12. Rayado21

    Rayado21 Member

    Jan 3, 2015
    Club:
    --other--
    No worries, Grimmjow316
     
  13. el_cuscatleco

    el_cuscatleco Member

    Nov 2, 2006
    Melbourne, Australia
    A few weeks shy of turning 21 Gabriel Nuñez has seemingly decided it's time to turn pro and as such has moved on from Querétaro and is now trying to get signed in El Salvador. He was initially offered trials with both Alianza and Santa Tecla; he chose to go with the latter.
     
  14. el_cuscatleco

    el_cuscatleco Member

    Nov 2, 2006
    Melbourne, Australia
    Good for him! Wish more juniors would follow in his footsteps!
     
  15. Blue_nation724

    Blue_nation724 Member+

    Mar 16, 2013
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    El Salvador
    Well, hoping he cuts in in our league. Hoping we trim out the legionarios from our league and keep it more local. Our boys need more game time to get better chances abroad
     
  16. SLVFut11

    SLVFut11 Member

    Jun 12, 2014
    Club:
    Alianza FC
  17. SLVFut11

    SLVFut11 Member

    Jun 12, 2014
    Club:
    Alianza FC
    another opportunity has been wasted by Peña, He went to Denmark, DC United, Tigres. Nothing good has heppened with Him.
     
  18. La Trucha

    La Trucha Moderator
    Staff Member

    Nov 16, 2009
    42 Wallaby Way, Sydney
    Club:
    Melbourne Victory
    Nat'l Team:
    Australia
    Didn't know Pena went to Denmark or DC United. He did go to Sevilla FC though...
     
  19. Grimmjow316

    Grimmjow316 Member+

    Jun 20, 2012
    Houston, TX
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    El Salvador
    I remember DC United but he wasn't going to make it TBH.
     
  20. el_cuscatleco

    el_cuscatleco Member

    Nov 2, 2006
    Melbourne, Australia
    I know i sound like a broken record but for a player like Peña, at his age, going back to LMF is the best thing that could have happend!

    I can understand Pineda staying a little while longer - although i'd rather he too return home - but Peña was doing nothing in Mexico so him having returned is great.

    Here's hoping Jairo is the next to follow!
     
  21. SLVFut11

    SLVFut11 Member

    Jun 12, 2014
    Club:
    Alianza FC
    I think you dont watch many games of LMF? is mediocre, and boring as hell...
     
  22. Grimmjow316

    Grimmjow316 Member+

    Jun 20, 2012
    Houston, TX
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    El Salvador
    The issue becomes if he can break through if not he will end up just like Olivier coming back only to ride the bench in Alianza so far the U20 are being wasted for washed up foreigners or just as bad local players because they have the favor of the coaches.
     
  23. el_cuscatleco

    el_cuscatleco Member

    Nov 2, 2006
    Melbourne, Australia
    In a season i'd say i watch atleast 8o% of all televised LMF games. And although it may be mediocre/boring to you, it's what's we've got. Better have a player there then playing juniors - at the age of 20 - in a country/league where he is not even getting game time.
     
  24. SLVFut11

    SLVFut11 Member

    Jun 12, 2014
    Club:
    Alianza FC
  25. Grimmjow316

    Grimmjow316 Member+

    Jun 20, 2012
    Houston, TX
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    El Salvador
    I really hope that's sarcasm...
     

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