RSL Fan Experience

I feel like the people that complain about gifts per seat versus gifts per account just don't understand how budgets work. If you want one gift per seat then you're just dividing up how much can be spent per gift (hello coaster!). The best STH gift they've ever done was the canvas print of the RioT from the game that must not be named. Was anyone complaining that that gift was 1 per account? Hell no, because that gift was awesome. If they did one gift per seat instead then a huge canvas print becomes a 3x5 vinyl print from Kinkos. What the gift is should be the debate, not how many you get per account. Canvas photos and quality scarves? Yes! Coasters and stickers? GTFO.

 

I'm curious this year, given they are doing away with printed tickets (unless you wanna pay extra for the cost) if that will change the quality of gift.

Oh, and I'd say the actual best gift was the glass with the lion logo. While the Canvas is cool, it's just something you hang once and occasionally look at. I use that glass all the damn time.

 

Trinkets.

 

Yes, the glass was also one of the good ones. I love my picture though, it's my autograph receiver. When I'm not taking it to the meet the team and similar events, it hangs in my office.

 

Yeah the canvas print was cool and looks really nice hanging in my brother's apartment...

 

I agree with your yawns, and I think that's the problem. Unless you're attached to your seat there really aren't many benefits of having season tickets.

 

I can see some of the merit in some of it.
1. I think they should've worded the price lock differently, because I can see why people would think you're getting the tickets + a 3 year lock. Having the first year 'locked' is silly since you've already paid for that year.
2. When you're trying to sell someone on season tickets, it's usually the perks that help lock them into shelling out for the whole year. Telling those people, sorry, not everyone gets a gift, is kind of a dick move, IMO. It seems silly that you're better off splitting them off into individual accounts.
3. While I haven't been to a meet the team event in a few years now, they really need to do something to change it up. The last one I went to must've been when there were less STH's, because I was able to get all signatures except Olave who left early. (I believe he was injured at the time) The best thing for the fans would be to do 4 events, and have the STH from each quadrant go on their own day. I'm guessing this wouldn't happen due to needing to have it 4x times, but it would help give people the opportunity to get more than a couple of signatures. If anything, this may be something they will have to scrap entirely later on.
4. My rep has been good the few times I've had to talk to him. Usually get him on the first try, almost always on the second.
5. It's been awhile since I've done this, but it was a smooth process at the time.

While I understand you're essentially in it for the ticket (and all the free straws), I'd say there's more people who are in it for the whole package. I know I am. While I do like where I sit, I'd have no problems buying tickets for single games and sitting wherever. Aside from being right behind the net, most of the seats have a pretty solid view of the field. Since we're not really getting a discount for buying a season's worth of tickets, it's those extra perks that help sell it to myself and others.

I did laugh at the 'Leo the Lion' response, especially to number one. Saying that they got rid of the price lock because people weren't using it is a lie. They got rid of it because it ensures that people are paying the most for the tickets, instead of being locked into a lower rate for those few years.

 

I got an emailed survey asking why I did not renew our seats. It had a "rate from 1-5 the importance of" and there were things like "match day experience", "customer service", "value" etc. Last one was "Head Coach"...

Kind of a weird thing to ask. Yes, fans will moan about the coach, but wouldn't "style of play" or "results" be a better phrasing? The question (specifically inclusion of HC as an option) makes it sound like management has no clue as to how to run the team.

 

Interesting. That's definitely something you don't put on a survey. If they do that they should add things like "failure to bring in talent" and related questions. Or they could have "The team isn't fun to watch", and then have sub-questions whic would allow the responder to drill down if the answer is 4 or 5. All in All that would be pretty asinine since most fans have no clue how to analyze the root causes of team success or lack thereof.

 

Beer isn't cheap at any sporting event, which is why I rarely get any at games. There are definitely better beer varieties available, but at least they've got Uinta at the RioT.

 

I have no opinion on this until they start serving vodka or rum. Then the games will be fun.

 

I have yet to find a human being with more disdain toward Utah than you.

 

I know a number of transplants. Some like it, some don't. Which is how it is for everyone everywhere. For example, I'll never in my life understand the appeal of LA.

That being said if you can let me know what you're doing to get your neighbors to stop saying "hello" to you it would be much appreciated. Telling them I'm not interested in church doesn't seem to be working.

 

It's crazy no matter how many times I've gone OT about how wrong-headed this statement is, it ALWAYS pops up in every beer discussion. Should I just relent? I feel kinda responsible to play a part in changing this attitude, but whack-a-mole gets tired after a decade.

 

Here's a handy link for next time.

 

The City Weekly even ran an article about it. Figure those so adamant about how crappy it is in Utah may have read that and given it more consideration.

 

Thank you.

It isn't just the alcohol concentration. If beer is only good or "real" if it has X% of alcohol by ABV or ABW, where the **** do you draw that line? 4.5%? 5%? If Utah raises the draft and grocery store limit to 5%, is that the new "fake beer" designation? The most popular beer in the world is 4.2% ABV: Bud Light. So, after 21 4% Bud Lights, you'll be "cheated" out of one beer.

Beer is a fermented beverage whose sugar base is primarily, but not necessarily completely, derived from malted grain, be it barley or wheat (there's even some pushing the definition of that). It usually contains hops, but not always. It usually is fermented with beer yeast, but not always. It has alcohol in it (even "alcohol-free" has trace amounts). It has some CO2, from champagne-like to near undetectable.

People's distaste with 4% (or 3.5% or 3.2% or whatever number is stuck in their head) is just because "the man" says that's all they can have. They taste the oppression. Alcohol content is fairly, although not completely, meaningless when it comes to actual taste and enjoyment of said product.

If you really care about getting drunk, chug some alcohol. I'd rather have three or four 4% beers over the course of a few hours and enjoy them without getting trashed. Or getting trashed. Whatevs.

 

Be happy you don't live in a dry county, surrounded by dry counties, where you have to drive over an hour just to buy it. It can always be worse.

 

I'm not arguing the fact about "the man." I'm arguing your comment about "fake" beer. It isn't fake. It isn't less-good merely due to the fact that it has less alcohol than most beers.

Your anger about the abolitionist attitude of the state is misdirected at lower-alcohol beer. Lower-alcohol beer is, in fact, REAL beer and, even if you aren't super into it, is enjoyed by many tens-of-thousands of people. I too would love more selection and options. But I don't take for granted the great beers that are being made that meet the requirements of our state legal code.